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$1000 Bounty For Podcasting on the Neuros 31

Posted by timothy from the is-there-insecticide-for-buzzwords dept.
PDA_Monkey writes "Neuros Audio, makers of the Neuros Digital Audio Computer and the Neuros MPEG-4 Recorder, have announced on their open development blog that they will pay $1,000 USD to the first developer to enable sending and receiving podcasts from/to the Neuros."
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  • contract work (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Greventls ( 624360 )
    So what they are basically doing is offering $1000 to a contract worker to develope their project, but making it out as a competition and the pay is a prize. Genius.
    • And the developers will have to buy Neuros up-front even before winning, if at all.
      • One would assume they would already have one or buy it because they wanted one anyway, not just to win a prize. I'm sure the sort of people who would be interested already have one as AFAICC it is the most hi-tec, best quality music player on the market (though a bit pricey for my needs as I'm not really a music person).
    • Looks better on the CV than "I enjoy posting to Slashdot"

    • So what they are basically doing is offering $1000 to a contract worker to develope their project, but making it out as a competition and the pay is a prize. Genius.

      Seems pretty dumb on all sides to me. What it says to me is that Neuros thinks their stuff is so hard to use that they'd give $1000 to someone who could actually pull this off. That also says that $1000 is what it is worth to them; clearly they know it will take even more effort or they would have just developed it in-house. So they're

      • Since it looks to me as if the offer the SDK free I do not see the complaint. The podcast software for the Ipod was done for free. They are offering a grand for someone to do an open source program for their product. Seems like a nice bit of cash and fame for somebody.

        • Since it looks to me as if the offer the SDK free I do not see the complaint. The podcast software for the Ipod was done for free.

          But as the most popular player, people had an iPod already for "podcasting" to be created in the first place. Who has, or even lusts after, a Neuros? It appears to be an also-ran that is going to join all the other also-rans that Apple is laughing at. It's going to take a lot more than a free SDK to interest people.

          They are offering a grand for someone to do an open

          • Have you actually compared the spec of a neuros with an iPod? They are not even comparable as they occupy totally different niches. The iPod is a very basic MP3 player--I have a tiny Creative player for about £50 that does more--which is mainly an accesory to iTunes--its USP is its integration with Apple's software. The Neuros is a proffesional player/recorder/encoder/decoder/FM transmitter/receiver/&c which supports loads of encodings, &c and is basically a free-software-based portable com

            • The iPod is a very basic MP3 player--I have a tiny Creative player for about £50 that does more--which is mainly an accesory to iTunes--its USP is its integration with Apple's software. The Neuros is a proffesional player/recorder/encoder/decoder/FM transmitter/receiver/&c which supports loads of encodings, &c and is basically a free-software-based portable computer.

              You support my point. All the also-rans are trying to pretend they're superior because they have feature X or price Y. Li

              • You support my point

                Therefore you support my point. QED.

                See my grandparent: "they occupy totally different niches". the iPod is not designed for people who care to much about technology, features or music quality.

                here Neuros is practically screaming they can't provide what people want

                This is were I have a problem with your argument. Yes, maybe Neuros and other `also-rans' as you call them should have offered this feature earlier. But you seem to be moaning that they are now trying to include

                • Therefore you support my point. QED.

                  Erm, no. You really need to take (or re-take) a logic course. That your information doesn't support your conclusion in no way means the conclusion it does support is identical. I assure you, we have far from identical opinions.

                  See my grandparent: "they occupy totally different niches". the iPod is not designed for people who care to much about technology, features or music quality.

                  Yes, yes; so you say. All I see, though, is an attempt here that reflects

          • By your argument then Linux and Open Office are a total waste as well.
            The whole idea behind open source is to add features to your hardware. Frankly if I had a Neuro I would be interested in trying to win it. Podcasting is not all that hard. You can find RSS libs for most languages. This would make a great project for some high school or college kid. This is not supposed to be a job after all it is a prize. What I do not get is the venom and negative attitude. Are you Steve Jobs? I mean I have used a friend

            • By your argument then Linux and Open Office are a total waste as well.

              Yeah, pretty much. More importantly, though, neither of those are trying to bait a non-community with cash prizes. Both of those projects are expanded because someone either wants an improvement, or pays for an improvement. Can you name any successful open source effort that dangles a carrot of possible cash in front of it?

              The whole idea behind open source is to add features to your hardware. Frankly if I had a Neuro I would

      • So, as I understand it, you are suggesting that the fact that they are using a very efficient and open method to recruit developers for features to add to their free software means they must be desperate and thereby stupid. Surely, it just means that they are intelligent enough to have chosen a system which will get them the best results.

        This is utter nonsense. The same clearly invalid argument could be used against software or computers (or science, technology or any attempt by humanity to do anything) i

        • So, as I understand it, you are suggesting that the fact that they are using a very efficient and open method to recruit developers for features to add to their free software means they must be desperate and thereby stupid.

          Yeah, pretty much.

          This is utter nonsense. The same clearly invalid argument could be used against software or computers (or science, technology or any attempt by humanity to do anything) in general: because one uses computers, science, &c as a tool to get things done quickly

          • To misquote your other post, "You[r parent post] support[s] my point. All the also-rans are trying to pretend they [use a] superior [development model]. [But] most people aren't interested [because their models don't actually produce stable] features [and software].

            just because you use technology it doesn't make you smarter, quicker, or more efficient.

            Correct, but if you look at my grandparent post, I was saying "just because you don't use technology it doesn't make you smarter, quicker, or more effic

    • I'm not sure what point the parent is trying to make. Yes; a company is paying a developer to create software. What is wrong with that (especially when the software is free as in freedom)?

      Surely the fact that the prize is open to all makes it much fairer (in copmarison to a contract) as any hacker who has the time to do this can claim the prize. The idea of bounties or prizes for producing code is quite an old one in the FLOSS community.

  • Surprise! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Jahf ( 21968 ) on Sunday April 03, 2005 @02:43PM (#12127519) Journal
    People are complaining about this off the bat.

    1) Yeah, you have to own a Neuros first to even develop this.

    2) Yeah, you could look at this like Neuros is changing contract pay to a prize.

    But ...

    A) No one said you personally must participate -and- the neuros community has alot of developers. This was targetted as a bonus for existing Neuros owners who develop, not to try and snooker a bunch of non-Neuros-owning people. Face it, it got put on /. "Developers", so it gets about 1% the traffic of a normal post, its not exactly a marketing coup.

    B) Which is better ... a developer doing this on their own (which likely would have happened eventually assuming Neuros users care about podcasting) for nothing or have the company say "hey, while you're doing all this free stuff, try this and if it works we'll pay ya for it"?

    NOTE: Yes, I own a Neuros (had 2 until one was stolen) and yes I know the owners of Digital Innovations [digitalinnovations.com] which created the Neuros [neurosaudio.com] and when I had the time I was even helping them start to open source [neurosaudio.com] parts of the Neuros. However, I don't use my Neuros right now (when the other got stolen they got my upgraded drive and both sync cables and ... well .. I'm procastinating because I'm still pissed). I have never worked for DI nor have I developed anything for it (I'm thinking of getting back into it, but my SqueezeBox is also a tempting hack target). Point is ... I know the product and the company. Those who don't shouldn't make comments about things they don't know about.
    • I wasn't complaining. If I owned a Neuros, I'd be hard at work. :)
    • Kudos to you for helping them with the open source stuff. I didn't know that when I purchased mine in '03 (had it been released back in 11/03?). I took a gander at their code for NSM and the firmware and tinkered here and there, but nothing big. I think it's fucking awesome that they released the source. It would be fun to do this now, but I sold my rig to a co-worker and got an iPod just last month. Yeah, I sold out, blah blah, but I couldn't deal with walking to work everyday with that brick in my pocket

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