Red Hat Launches Entertainment-Centric 'Mugshot' 54
Havoc Pennington writes "A small team of us have been working on a new project called Mugshot, we're calling it a "live social
experience" and hoping it will bring open source to more people who
aren't using it already. The project is public as of this morning. Check out the developer site for more."
Great performance... (Score:2, Redundant)
Thats not terribly encouraging.
Nice (Score:2)
omg! u r so cool i am so im'ng all my budys (Score:1, Funny)
100% Serious (don't get mad)... (Score:3, Interesting)
Anyone can respond, I'm sorry to point my question at the developers. I just want a more fleshed out proposal. The summary would have been a good place to put it, but below will be fine.
Re:100% Serious (don't get mad)... (Score:5, Informative)
There are two very specific features we already started on:
http://mugshot.org/links-learnmore [mugshot.org]
http://mugshot.org/radar-learnmore [mugshot.org]
So those are very specific, but the project is open to all kinds of stuff, no need to artificially limit it.
Re:100% Serious (don't get mad)... (Score:1)
Such as? What does it do?
What's XMPP? What does it do?
What about the grups? (Score:1)
The "liveness" space, where we use our broadband connectivity to join together in real time to socialize around some kind of event, is so wide open and undefined right now.
Video conferencing and online games are just a tiny taste of the possible. It will be really cool to see what pops up to fill this space, and I just hope that us grups [newyorkmetro.com] get to play too.
Mugshot and OLPC Sugar? (Score:1)
Is there any relationship or code sharing between Mugshot and the "Sugar" interface for the One Laptop Per Child project? Red Hat's Chris Blizzard blogs about Sugar [0xdeadbeef.com] that "kids can communicate in every app, that they can show each other things, that they can take each other on tours of the web and many other ways of collaborating", which sounds like parts of Mugshot.
Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:4, Funny)
http://eugenia.blogsome.com/2006/05/31/mugshot-mu
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:1)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:1)
OK, that seriously makes no sense whatsoever. Is there an intended meaning embedded in that sentence or is it just words strung together for effect?
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:3, Interesting)
Why on earth should Linux or Gnome ask you for the root password to copy or delete files from a user's home directory??? Linux is inherently a multi-user system and not everybody has access to the
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:3, Insightful)
LEARN TO READ, before you reply.
>Why on earth should Linux or Gnome ask you for the root password to copy or delete files from a user's home directory???
I did not say about a USER's home directory. I said OUT of a user's directory. For example, when I try to copy a file on to
>Linux is inherently a multi-user system and not everybody has access to the root pa
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Who cares what they use?? The point is, IT WORKS for the USER. The user is the No1 entity that needs caring when creating a desktop OS. And if it's risky to shoot a dialog for the root password, well, make the necessary changes to be as secure as it can be.
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Um, I'm pretty good at reading, and I read this the same way that person did. Your exact words were:
I thought the same thing. Why in the world should anyone need the root password to copy or delete files from their home directory? That makes no sense. Because I'm good at pretty good at reading minds as well as reading books, I think what you meant to say was this:
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
I think she means OUTSIDE of your ~ directory.
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
LEARN TO WRITE, so that you can say what you really mean to say, not what you thought you said!
root access is not necessary to copy files OUT of a user's home directory nor should it be unless the destination directory is owned by root.
Now
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
This is exactly what I am trying to AVOID. The user should NOT have to open a terminal to sudo. There are many instances (about 95%), where the user is also the sole user or admin of the machine. Why have him/her open a terminal to sudo when this should be done easily via the file manager. If sudo exists, then the file manager should endorse it too and integrate it. THAT'S usability my friend.
>Then buy a Mac!
I hav
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Like I mentioned before, Red Hat and Fedora will ask for the root password ONCE and then integrate with the file manager seamlessly. What kind of broke-ass distribution are you using that does not do that?
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:1)
Suppose I have a hammer with a comfortable grip, and an axe with an uncomfortable grip. Suppose you come across me chopping wood, and I mention to you that I don't like the grip on the axe as much as the grip on my hammer. Would you tell me to stop whining and chop wood with the hammer
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
An axe != a hammer. A Mac == a PC. And yes I would tell you to quit whining when all you need to do is go down to the local hardware store and get yourself another axe. Besides why should I care? If you want to whine by all means go ahead and do i
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2, Interesting)
2 - I spend my time and energy on whatever I consider valuable... others can do the same with their time and energy. The nice thing about open source is that everyone gets to vote with their work.
3 - there's a Red Hat desktop team still working hard on desktop stuff.
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:3, Interesting)
WHAT is it intended to be then??? Because your web site says absolutely nothing about it! It just doesn't spell out, or gives examples, or mockups of what it does. 99% of the people who have commented on Mugshot don't get it. That's your error, as manager of this project.
>I spend my time and energy on whatever I consider valuable...
That's like saying that Alexander the Great has decided to stop inventing other countries and
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
I will give you NetworkManager (mostly developed by RH) and g-v-m (developed by Novell). Other than that, same old, same old in the Gnome land. I say, come back to the Red Hat Desktop Team and make the team develop things as they used to in 2001: full force. That's what we, Gnome users, have missed the past few years.
And then, you come out after MONTHS in secluding offices, and you talk to us about Mugshot, and media sharing and working with the
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
It is a "work in progress", as written on the front page. Why do you expect it to be a fully finished polished product? It's just a website, calm down!
You don't get it. (Score:2)
Just kidding of course. Your right, you can work on anything you find value in. Just as many people work on programs like GRASS or even Airfoil. I have to wonder why you even bothered to reply to that troll.
Re:You don't get it. (Score:2)
I am happy for him too. But not happy for Red Hat's main products.
Re:You don't get it. (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
But there's a back story. When considering the overall picture with Gnome and Linux, including Red Hat's own commercial products, it hurts me seeing such an off topic (and badly explained) project being worked on, while there is so much they could do with their core products. I mean, sure, it's nice to have Red Hat Labs where people can code whatever they want on their 20% of the time (just like Google does), OR, have a special team that works on the science pro
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Hate to sound like a broken record - but please file bug reports.
Re:Mugshot? Mugshot you said? (Score:2)
Classic corporation communication (Score:5, Informative)
Does the Slashvertisment tell me what it does? Nope.
Does the website tell me what it is? Nope.
Does the developer site tell me what it is? Nope.
Does the FAQ entitled "What is Mugshot?" tell me what it is? Nope.
If you want to know what it is, you have to read the FAQ entitled What does it do? [mugshot.org], in which it explains:
So basically it's like del.icio.us with added media specialisation. Timothy, isn't it your job to make sure writeups include enough information to make sense?
Re:Classic corporation communication (Score:2)
del.icio.us plus Audioscrobbler.
The thing that surprises me is that, for a social networking app developed in 2006, there's no mention of FOAF, RDF, or the Semantic Web on the developers' wiki. Am I going to have to master yet another set of data formats to write applications that interoperate with this?
I'm confused (Score:2)
What does it... (Score:1)
Am I the only one? (Score:2, Insightful)
When I saw "Red Hat" and "Entertainment-centric", I thought they were rolling out a media PC distribution, maybe incorporating an optimized version of MythTV.
No?
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
Exact same thought (Score:2)
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:2)
I figured RH finally decided to throw a few bones from their warchest at whoever is licensing MP3/mpeg4/divx and actually compete with MS/MCE, legally.
On a pretty wide range of documented hardware, it's a no brainer (see knoppmyth)
Linux, eh? (Score:2)