John Romero, the Man Behind the Hype 183
rockstarenvy writes "In a recent interview with the Escapist, Russ Pitts reveals a lot about who John Romero really is. As Romero puts it: 'After 10-plus years of reading about yourself, all the good and bad, it all just becomes irrelevant after awhile. I know what I'm capable of doing and the people I work with are united in our mission, and they treat me just like they treat each other. The whole fame thing doesn't come into play when we're in development, because we're all a team. I know some of my guys read a lot of forums and sometimes they'll see some remark that someone clueless made and show it to me, chuckling because they know the truth of who I am and how I work. The media personification of John Romero is not who John Romero is.'"
Who the hell.... (Score:5, Funny)
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I feel insulted that you didn't mention Daikatana.
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And he did it all in GWBasic too.
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nah... that should read
John Romero, the Man Behind the Demon Face Wall That Spits Out Soul Cubes
Re:Who the hell.... (Score:2, Funny)
Tell me, Mr. Romero, how much do clothes cost in the Matrix?
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John Romero [wikipedia.org] is a video game designer/producer/programmer who gained a degree of infamy [penny-arcade.com] by designing and producing Daikatana [wikipedia.org].
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Re:Who the hell.... (Score:2, Funny)
is John Romero. Was he in that movie with that other guy?
No, you got it all wrong. He's the guy in the garden, lurking in the the bushes, right? This chick, Julie sommat, she's on this balcony, y'see, and she goes "Romero, Romero, where fart thou Romero?", (cause he's been eating beans and she can smell him) and he says something at her like "What, like, in that there window speaks, oh damn, where's Julie at? I want to take her for a drive on the Montegue Expressway, if you dig my meaning." And a lo
Re:Who the hell.... (Score:1)
How the hell did that question get modded insightful? Even if you don't know, it's easy enough to read the article.
Re:Who the hell.... (Score:1)
I think he directed Dawn of the Dead
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Everyone Loves Romero!
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Nice try, but I'm 41. I know of Doom (I had a few friends who were really into it back in the mid-90s), but I couldn't care less about it. The provincial assumption that every nerd knows or cares about the FPS gaming subculture and its "important" figures is the fallacy I'm pointing out. Maybe if the original submitter had enough sense of perspective to explain who this John person was before gasping about how he's not just the legend everyone knows him as, I wouldn't find it so thoroughly absurd.
Re:Who the hell.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Or from my perspective, it showed that PC games could be just a stupid and boring as the worst arcade machine or console game... like playing duh-football but without the exercise. Come to think of it, maybe I should care who John Romero is, if he's responsible for PC gaming developing its obsession with eye candy, polygon rendering, and frames per second over... ideas. It means he's why I no longer give a damn about
Re:Who the hell.... (Score:2)
so where the F where you when Prince of Persia came out for the PC then??? or Harpoon, or the original Sim City, or Railroad Tycoon, or Flight Sim 3 (yes, I was running them on an old 8086 at 16 MHz with 640K of RAM and a 32Meg hard card... in EGA)
Computer gaiming per se went to hell in the proverbial handbasket after Doom came out and every publisher went FPS mad
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I know who John Romero is! (Score:5, Funny)
Bob Dole (Score:5, Insightful)
John Romero, like many washed-up has beens, likes to refer to John Romero in the third person.
Seriously, for a guy that's a laughingstock in the video game industry, he sure does still have an ego. Come on man, when are you making me your bitch?
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Damned file shares!
And game reviewers!
And their own free demo!
Re:Bob Dole (Score:2)
That's the first and last time Diakatana was on ANY computer I've ever owned. I will never forget that experience.
* 5 minutes into the game:
"So, it's dark, there's this wall here, looks like I'm sneaking in through some watery areas. Rain, meh.
* 10 minutes into the game:
"Wow, I'm being attacked by frogs and mosquitos. Frogs and mosquitoes...."
* 15 minutes into the game:
"Wow, more frogs and mosquitoes. And not the cool,
Re:Bob Dole (Score:2)
Oh, please. In context:
TE: How much of what is written about "John Romero"
JR: [an entire paragraph of text] The media personification of John Romero is not who John Romero is.
The interviewer introduced that idiom and Romero responded in kind. Bob Dole used third person in his campaign ads. (And while it happened soon after, he wasn't really washed up until he lost his presidential bid.)
Re:Bob Dole (Score:5, Insightful)
When you are a guy who is prone to excess - and someone who had previously been prone to success - people enjoy watching your fall. Sad, but true; we are a petty lot.
For all that, while people may have laughed at Romero from time to time - John Romero was never a "laughing stock". That wouldn't be accurate at all.
In any event - it is wiser to keep your words soft and sweet, in case you are forced to eat them.
Re:Bob Dole (Score:4, Insightful)
How many people do you need laughing at you before you are officially - I mean on Wikipedia and everything, Snopes confirms - a "laughing stock"?
Slashdot has a lot of readers; I bet we could do it if we really pulled together. Who's with me? Let's roll!
John Romero? Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaahaha.
Re:Bob Dole (Score:2)
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Serutan has two gripes with this comment:
1) It's inaccurate. Bob Dole, the prototype third-person self-referencer, talked like that throughout his career, and was best known for it when he was at the height of his power.
2) Serutan dislikes when people who have done noteworthy things, but just not lately, are called failures by people who never have and never will.
The people he works with (Score:4, Funny)
I wonder if he made those guys his bitches.
From the... (Score:5, Insightful)
John Romero's About To Bitch, Bitch, Bitch (Score:2)
John Romero: I'm very talented. My genius is misunderstood and under-appreciated. Every mistake I made in the past was somebody else's fault. Expect many more great things from me in the future.
-Eric
Such a rockstar (Score:1)
Some things never change.
Re:Such a rockstar (Score:2)
Kudos to all, but still, stfu already. If it
Re:Such a rockstar (Score:2)
FPSes, after he left Id, and after Daikasucka, became slow, patience, boring-as-shit events by comparison. Sure, Counter-strike is/was awesome, but the blood-pumping feel of original FPSes, under Romero's Id, were an ancient, pure-breed of PC gaming long since dead and gone IMO.
Try the Serious Sam games if that sort of hectic playstyle is your thing in FPS games. I think they very much capture that feel.
His reputation precedes him. (Score:2, Insightful)
Thank god I didn't fall for it. However, I feel genuinely sorry for those that did.
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From the book (page 239)
John Romero is John Romero (Score:5, Funny)
John Romero is a guy who refers to John Romero in the third person.
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Re:You think John Romero is John Romero? (Score:2)
Pay No Attention (Score:1)
"I am the meek and humble non-wizard!"
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
"You!"
"Oh bugger. You've found out I really and no ordinay mortal, but a great and powerful wizard."
While a Lot of You Claim... (Score:2, Interesting)
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As long as she keeps her boobs covered with something, they look ok.
Oh, the agony... (Score:1, Funny)
A lot of bashing (Score:2)
I wonder if John's MMOG is the "Bizarro World" he describes:
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The team was not supervised or given direction as to "this is what you need to do to make it work." Too much ego, not enough action.
But on the fun side of things, picture this... (Score:2)
At a stop light, Romero (long hair and all) turns to American and states, "not enough people are looking at us". Still looking, with the car at a full stop, JR revs the 600+ horsepower testarossa to redline.
Several times.
John looks around, looks back at American and states, "there, that's better."
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Rumor has it outside the office, he was a hell of a lot of fun to hang around with. For a selfish attention whoring man-child that is.
Re:A lot of bashing (Score:3, Informative)
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Heh. Good you ran in to American too. He's a great guy.
A couple of questions (Score:2)
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That's more than he's developed.
Really, no-one's that interested in stuff some has-been developer has done. You're as good as your last game, not your last game but 4 or whatever. When was the last time any of his code ran on your PC?
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No more bitchin' (Score:3, Funny)
A different version of the infamous "bitch" ad (Score:2)
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Actually, it's mostly men jealous of complete wangs.
So that you don't know what you're missing? Great reasoning there.
Logically, if I want to chop off my son's hand, that's ok too, right? It's not like children are human beings with ina
Title of His Next Game Revealed! (Score:1)
John Romero is a tool. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Daikatana (Score:2)
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What Power! (Score:1)
OfficeSecrets (Score:5, Interesting)
I was thinking the exact same thing before I quit my old job. You know, a lot of people do tell lies and if often turns out that powerful people are getting bullshitted all the time. I thought my staff enjoyed what I was doing and I kept hearing good things about my efforts until it was settled at a party and a few people got too drunk.
I'm not saying your team is doing this on you, John. Maybe you're really a great guy. Truth is, I don't know you and I actually even enjoyed Daikatana more than most other people did. It's just that I don't buy it, because you can't trust anyone until you know what he's thinking - which you probably never will.
Fame? (Score:4, Insightful)
The media personification of John Romero is not who John Romero is.
Don't tell me, John Romero is a series of... of nevermind.
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Alright.
Too much nonsense about John Romero.
The guy was a part of a revolution in computer gaming. Doom is the most influential game in the last 15 years, at least.
There has been no new breakthroughs since.
It's ok he never did anything after that, for for that matter, no one managed to pull
Re:Fame? (Score:2)
Just saying that even if he was part of the single most important breakthrough in computer gaming (which, a case can be made for), still doesn't mean that most people's hearts start racing when they see him on the street (well, maybe on account of the hair).
There has been no new breakthroughs since.
That's a bit pessimistic. They were the first to network a couple of computers and have little guys run around in a 3D sp
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Huh, for a factual interview... (Score:1, Funny)
Not just any frogs mind you, but happy, dapper and unique frogs! Fantabulous dancing frogs!
What can I say about John Romaro? He likes frogs. That's a good legacy to leave on this earth.
John who? (Score:1)
Requesting better summaries, please (Score:2)
For a person like myself who knows neither whom John Romero is nor whom Russ Pitts is, I suppose the slashdot editor and article submitter just assume that I'll feel compelled to read the article to figure it all out. I call poor editing; a good article summary should allow me to make an informed decision about whether to delve further, just from reading the article. Putting a blurb about who Romero is wo
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Tell me when Duke Nukem Forever comes out, maybe that would bitchslave everyone.
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Wow (Score:2)
Taking risks is part of
Very interesting article, Romero grew up! (Score:2)
You have to give him some credit... (Score:2)
Come on (Score:2)
Want to REALLY understand John Romero? (Score:4, Interesting)
Read this book: Masters of Doom [wikipedia.org].
One of the best tech industry books ever written (and if you've read some of the bad prose written on tech history out there, you know what I'm talking about).
I got it from the library, and read it in one weekend -- couldn't put it down.
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Re:Forget him... Killcreek (Score:4, Informative)
Besides, it kind of takes away from her being a level designer, game designer, and overall nice person.
But since Slashdot revolves around Self Indulging (tm), I might as well Karma whore and get noticed:
http://steviekillcreekcase.tripod.com/ [tripod.com]
Look everybody! I can be "informative" too!
Re:Forget him... Killcreek (Score:2)
Re:i call b.s. (Score:2)
Surely you have proof of this?
Links will suffice.