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Do Static Source Code Analysis Tools Really Work?

Posted by CmdrTaco on Mon May 19, 2008 11:19 AM
from the if-you're-stupid-they-do dept.
jlunavtgrad writes "I recently attended an embedded engineering conference and was surprised at how many vendors were selling tools to analyze source code and scan for bugs, without ever running the code. These static software analysis tools claim they can catch NULL pointer dereferences, buffer overflow vulnerabilities, race conditions and memory leaks. Ive heard of Lint and its limitations, but it seems that this newer generation of tools could change the face of software development. Or, could this be just another trend? Has anyone in the Slashdot community used similar tools on their code? What kind of changes did the tools bring about in your testing cycle? And most importantly, did the results justify the expense?"
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  • In Short, Yes (Score:5, Informative)

    by Nerdfest (867930) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:24AM (#23463724)
    They're not perfect, and won't catch everything, but they do work. Combined with unit testing, you can get a very low bug rate. Many of these (for Java, at least) are open source, so the expense in negligible.
    • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:4, Informative)

      by crusty_yet_benign (1065060) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:43AM (#23463964)
      In my experience developing win/mac x-platform apps, Purify (Win), Instruments (OSX) and BoundsChecker (Win) have all been useful. They find obvious stuff, that might have led to other issues. Recommended.
        • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Informative)

          by HalWasRight (857007) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:54PM (#23464758) Journal
          valgrind, BoundsChecker, and I believe the others mentioned, are all run-time error checkers. These require a test case that execises the bug. The static analysis tools the poster was asking about, like those from Coverity [coverity.com] and Green Hills [ghs.com], don't need test cases. They work by analyzing the actual semantics of the source code. I've found bugs with tools like these in code that was hard enough to read that I had to write test cases to verify that the tool was right. And it was! The bug would have caused an array overflow write under the right conditions.
        • by jberryman (1175517) on Monday May 19 2008, @01:24PM (#23465142)

          There's also valgrind, for Linux users

          It's great for finding all those elusive bits of code that might be accidentally seeding a pseudo-random number generator somewhere.

    • In short, YMMV (Score:5, Informative)

      by Moraelin (679338) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:05PM (#23464230) Journal
      My experience has been that while in the hands of people who know what they're doing, they're a nice tool to have, well, beware managers using their output as metrics. And beware even more a consultant with such a tool that he doesn't even understand.

      The thing is, these tools produce

      A) a lot of "false positives", code which is really OK and everyone understand why it's ok, but the tool will still complain, and

      B) usually includes some metrics of dubious quality at best, to be taken only as a signal for a human to look at it and understand why it's ok or not ok.

      E.g., ne such tool, which I had the misfortune of sitting through a salesman hype session of, seemed to be really little more than a glorified grep. It really just looked at the source text, not at what's happening. So for example if you got a database connection and a statement in a "try" block, it wanted to see the close statements in the "finally" block.

      Well, applied to an actual project, there was a method which just closed the connection and the statements supplied as an array. Just because, you know, it's freaking stupid to copy-and-paste cute little "if (connection != null) { try { connection.close(); } catch (SQLException e) { // ignore }}" blocks a thousand times over in each "finally" block, when you can write it once and just call the method in your finally block. This tool had a trouble understanding that it _is_ all right. Unless it saw the "connection.close()" right there, in the finally block, it didn't count.

      Other examples include more mundane stuff like the tools recommending that you synchronize or un-synchronize a getter, even when everyone understands why it's OK for it to be as it is.

      E.g., a _stateless_ class as a singleton is just an (arguably premature and unneded) speed optimization, because some people think they're saving so much by a singleton instead of the couple of cycles it takes to do a new on a class with no members and no state. It doesn't really freaking matter if there's exactly one of it, or someone gets a copy of it. But invariably the tools will make an "OMG, unsynchronized singleton" fuss, because they don't look deep enough to see if there's actually some state that must be unique.

      Etc.

      Now taken as something that each developper understands, runs on his own when he needs it, and uses his judgment of each point, it's a damn good thing anyway.

      Enter the clueless PHB with a metric and chart fetish, stage left. This guy doesn't understand what those things are, but might make it his personal duty to chart some progress by showing how much fewer warnings he's got from the team this week than last week. So useless man-hours are spent on useless morphing perfectly good code, into something that games the tool. For each 1 real bug found, there'll be 100 harmless warnings that he makes it his personal mission to get out of the code.

      Enter the snake-oil vendor's salesman, stage right. This guy only cares about selling some extra copies to justify his salary. He'll hype to the boss exactly the possibility to generate such charts (out of mostly false positives) and manage by such charts. If the boss wasn't already in a mind to do that management anti-pattern, the salesman will try to teach him to. 'Cause that's usually the only advantage that his expensive tool has over those open source tools that you mention.

      I'm not kidding. I actually tried to corner one into;

      Me: "ok, but you said not everything it flags there is a bug, right?"

      Him: "Yes, you need to actually look at them and see if they're bugs or not."

      Me: "Then what sense does it make to generate charts based on wholesale counting entities which may, or may not be bugs?"

      Him: "Well, you can use the charts to see, say, a trend that you have less of them over time, so the project is getting better."

      Me: "But they may or may not be actual bugs. How do you know if this week's mix has more or less actual bugs than last weeks, regardless of wh
      • Re:In short, YMMV (Score:4, Interesting)

        by JaneTheIgnorantSlut (1265300) on Monday May 19 2008, @01:26PM (#23465156)
        Also beware of managers who insist that each item identified by the tool needs to be somehow addressed. I inherited a body of code full of comments to the effect that "the tool says this is a a problem, but I looked at it and it is not".
      • Re:In short, YMMV (Score:5, Insightful)

        by TemporalBeing (803363) on Monday May 19 2008, @01:31PM (#23465226) Homepage Journal

        Enter the clueless PHB with a metric and chart fetish, stage left. This guy doesn't understand what those things are, but might make it his personal duty to chart some progress by showing how much fewer warnings he's got from the team this week than last week. So useless man-hours are spent on useless morphing perfectly good code, into something that games the tool. For each 1 real bug found, there'll be 100 harmless warnings that he makes it his personal mission to get out of the code.
        I've found that eliminating compiler warnings will do a lot for finding bugs. Sure, there may be a number of "harmless" ones, but cleaning them up will still do a lot of good to the code too, and make the other not-so-harmless ones stand out even more. It also gives good practice for resolving the issues so that you become more proactive than reactive to bugs in the code. Just 2 cents.
        • Re:In short, YMMV (Score:5, Informative)

          by Moraelin (679338) on Monday May 19 2008, @03:47PM (#23467072) Journal
          Compiler warnings, yes, at least for a decent warning level.

          Going out of the way to satisfy a tool, whose only reason to exist is to flag 10 times more stuff than -Wall, I found actually counter-productive.

          And I don't mean just as in, WOMBAT (Waste Of Money Brains And Time.) I mean as in: it teaches people to game the tool, actually hiding their real bugs. And it creates a false sense of security too.

          I've actually had to deal with a program which tested superbly on most metrics of such a tool. But only because the programmer had learned to game it. The program was really an incoherent and buggy mess. But it gamed every single tool they had in use.

          A. to start with the most obvious, some bright guy there had come up with an own CVS script which didn't let you check in, unless you had commented every single method, and every single parameter and exception thrown. Bout damn time, eh? Wrong.

          1. This forced people to effectively overwrite the comments inherited from better documented stuff. E.g., if you had a MyGizmoInterface interface, which was superbly documented, and the MyGizmoImpl class implementing it, it forced you to copy and paste the JavaDoc comments instead of just letting JavaDoc pick them from the interface. So instead of seeing the real docs, now everyone had docs all over the place along the lines of "See MyGizmoInterface.gizmoMethod()" overwriting the actually useful ones there. Or some copied and pasted comments from 1 year ago, where one of the two gradually became obsolete. People would update their comments in one of the two, but let the other say something that wasn't even true any more. Instead of having them in one place, and letting JavaDoc copy them automatically.

          2. The particular coder of this particular program, had just used his counter-script or maybe plugin, to automatically generate crap like:

          /**
            * Method description.
            *
            * @param x method parameter
            * @param y method parameter
            * @param idx method parameter
            * @param str method parameter
            */
          I mean, _literally_. Hundreds of methods had "Method description" as their javadoc comment, and thousands of parameters total were described as "method parameter."

          B. It also included such... brain-dead metrics as measuring the cohesion of each class, by the ratio between number of class members to class methods.

          He had learned to game that too. His code tested as superbly cohesive, although the same class and indeed the same method, could either send an email, or render a PDF, or update an XML in the database, depending on which parameters they got. But the members to methods ratio was grrrreat.

          That's really my problem with it:

          A. Somewhere along the way, they had become so confident in their tools, that noone actually even checked what javadoc comments those classes have. Their script already checks that there are comments, hey, that's enough.

          B. Somewhere along the way, everyone had gotten used to just gaming a stupid tool. If the tool said you have too many or too few class members, you'd just add or remove some to keep it happy. If it complained about complexity, because it considered a large switch statement to have too many effective ifs, you just split it into a several functions: one testing cases 1 to 10, one testing 11 to 20, and so on. Which actually made the code _less_ readable, and generally lower quality. There would have been ways to solve the problems better, but, eh, all that mattered was to keep the tool happy, so noone bothered.

          That's why I'd rather not turn it into a religion. Use the tool, yes, but take it as just something which you need to check and use your own judgment. Don't lose track of which is the end, and which is merely a means to that end.
    • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Interesting)

      by FBSoftware (1224962) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:13PM (#23464308)
      Yes, I use the formal methods based SPARK tools (www.sparkada.com) for Ada software. In my experience, the Examiner (static analyzer) is always right (> 99.44% of the time) when it reports a problem or potential for runtime exception. Even without SPARK, the Ada language requires that the compiler itself accomplish quite a bit of static analysis. Using Ada, its less likely you will need third-party static analysis tool - just use a good compiler like GNAT.
      • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Goaway (82658) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:49AM (#23464038) Homepage
        You don't need to be perfect to be useful.
      • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @01:45PM (#23465364)

        The proper answer would be: No. A fully working static code analyzer would be like solving the Halting Problem, which has been proven to be impossible. Essentially you can just try to catch as many potential problems as you can, but you can never catch all.
        I hate it when the halting problem is trotted out as "proof" that formal verification is impossible. If you like to put intractable recursion in your code then you probably shouldn't be a programmer. (Maybe you could draft legislation instead.) In practice, you should be able to prove (at least informally) that your program halts when it's supposed to.

        The only real significance of the halting problem is to demonstrate that there can be some pretty absurd programs out there. It is not an indictment of static analyses. Nor is it an excuse to have less than total confidence in the correctness of your code.
      • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Informative)

        by Entrope (68843) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:24PM (#23464430) Homepage

        My group at work recently bought one of these. They catch a lot of things that compilers don't -- for example, code like this:

        int array[4], count, ii;

        scanf("%d", &count);
        for (ii = 0; ii < count; ++ii)
        {
        scanf("%d", &array[ii]);
        }

        .. where invalid input causes arbitrarily bad behavior. They also tend to be better at inter-procedural analysis than compilers, so they can warn you that you're passing a short literal string to a function that will memcpy() from the region after that string. They do have a lot of false positives, but what escapes from compilers to be caught by static analysis tools tend to be dynamic behavior problems that are easy to overlook in testing. (If the problem were so obvious, the coder would have avoided it in the first place, right?)

        • by neokushan (932374) on Monday May 19 2008, @06:38PM (#23468880)
          I hope you realise I just spent a good 2mins googling around for an explanation of a for loop with 4 parts to it instead of the 3 I was used to seeing. I genuinely thought it was some special, relatively unknown and underused part of the C spec that I'd just not seen before.
          Then I realised it was just the HTML screwing up a less-than symbol. Then I felt a bit silly.
          Then I just had to tell someone....
          • Re:In Short, Yes (Score:5, Insightful)

            by pnewhook (788591) on Monday May 19 2008, @02:08PM (#23465672)

            Would it not make sense to run this tool to catch these types of errors before wasting everyones time in a code review?

            By the time you get to code review and test, you should be catching logic errors, not stupid syntactical and poor code style ones. If the tool helps a developer clean up and catch the obvious stuff, then testing can be much more productive catching the real problems.

            Basically if the tool helps reduce errors then it is useful. Same comment goes for code complexity checkers. No tool will catch everything though, but then again you shouldn't be depending on it to.

  • Yes. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Dibblah (645750) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:24AM (#23463726)
    It's another tool in the toolbox. However, the results are not necessarily easy to understand or simple to fix. For example, see the recent SSL library issue - Which exhibited minimal randomness due to someone "fixing" an (intended) uninitialized memory area.
    • Re:Yes. (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:37AM (#23463884)
      Sigh. That bug wasn't from fixing the use of uninitialized memory, it was from being overzealous and "fixing" a second (valid, not flagged as bad by Valgrind) use of the the same function somewhere near the first use.
      • Re:Yes. (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:38AM (#23463888)
        I think the actual details weren't very widely reported anyway. Apparently two statements were removed; one read from uninitialised memory, but the other was completely valid. Since the second one was responsible for most of the randomness, removing it reduced the keyspace to the point where it can be brute forced.

      • Re:Yes. (Score:4, Informative)

        by Josef Meixner (1020161) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:02PM (#23464180) Homepage

        If you're using uninitialized memory to generate randomness, it wasn't very random in the first place.

        It is only one source for the entropy pool and the SSL "fix" was a Debian maintainer running valgrind on OpenSSL, finding a piece of code where uninitialized memory was accessed, "fixed" it and a "similar piece" and accidently removed all entropy from the pool. The result of that is, that all ssh-keys and ssl-certs created on Debian in the last 20 months are to be considered broken. (Debian Wiki SSLkeys on the scope and what to do [debian.org])

  • by mdf356 (774923) <mdf356.gmail@com> on Monday May 19 2008, @11:24AM (#23463734) Homepage
    Here at IBM we have an internal tool from research that does static code analysis.

    It has found some real bugs that are hard to generate a testcase for. It has also found a lot of things that aren't bugs, just like -Wall can. Since I work in the virtual memory manager, a lot more of our bugs can be found just by booting, compared to other domains, so we didn't get a lot of new bugs when we started using static analysis. But even one bug prevented can be work multiple millions of dollars.

    My experience is that, just like enabling compiler warnings, any way you have to find a bug before it gets to a customer is worth it.
  • OSS usage (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MetalliQaZ (539913) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:25AM (#23463742)
    If I remember correctly, one of these companies donated their tool to many open source projects, including Linux and the BSDs. I think it led to a wave of commits as 'bugs' were fixed. It seemed like a pretty good endorsement to me...
  • by MadShark (50912) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:29AM (#23463802)
    I use PC-lint religiously for my embedded code. In my opinion it has the most bang for the buck. It is fast, cheap and reliable. I've found probably thousands of issues and potential issues over the years using it.

    I've also used Polyspace. In my opinion, it is expensive, slow, can't handle some constructs well and has a *horrible* signal to noise ratio. There is also no mechanism for silencing warnings in future runs of the tool(like the -e flag in lint). On the other hand, it has caught a (very) few issues that PC-Lint missed. Is it worth it? I suppose it depends if you are writing systems that can kill people if something goes wrong.
        • Re:signal to noise (Score:4, Insightful)

          by McGregorMortis (536146) on Monday May 19 2008, @01:11PM (#23465002)
          If you're tuning it to ignore assignment within a test , ie "if( x=y ) {}", then you're missing the one of the great points of using PC-Lint.

          That code is simply in poor taste, even if it works. What PC-Lint, and good taste, say you should do is change the code to "if( (x=y) != 0 ) {}". This will satisfy PC-Lint, and also makes your intention very clear to the next programmer who comes along. And, best of all, it doesn't generate a single byte of extra code, because you've only made explicit what the compiler was going to do anyway.
  • They do work (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:29AM (#23463804)
    Static analysis does catch a lot of bugs. Mind you, it's no silver bullet, and frankly it's better, given the choice, to target a language+environment that doesn't suffer problems like dangling pointers in the first place (null pointers, however, don't seem to be anything Java or C# are really interested in getting rid of).

    Even lint is decent -- the trick is just using it in the first place. As for expense, if you have more than, oh, 3 developers, they pay for themselves by your first release. Besides, many good tools such as valgrind are free (valgrind isn't static, but it's still useful).
  • Yes (Score:4, Informative)

    by progressnerd (1189895) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:30AM (#23463810)
    Yes, some static analysis tools really work. FindBugs [sourceforge.net] works well for Java. Fortify [fortify.com] has had good success finding security vulnerabilities. These tools take static checking just a step beyond what's offered by a compiler, but in practice that's very useful.
  • Yes, they work. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:32AM (#23463832)
    You will probably be amazed at what you will catch with static analysis. No, it's not going to make your program 100% bug-free (or even close), but every time I see code dies on an edge case that would've been caught with static analysis, it makes me want to kill a kitten (and I'm totally a "cat person" mind you).

    Static analyzers will catch the stupid things - edge cases that fail to initialize a var, but then lead straight to de-referencing it; memory leaks on edge-case code paths, etc. that shouldn't happen but often do, and get in the way of find real bugs in your program logic.
  • by Idaho (12907) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:33AM (#23463840)
    Such tools work in a very similar way to what is already being done in many modern language compilers (such as javac). Basically, they implement semantic checks that verify whether the program makes sense, or is likely to work as intended in some respect. For example, they will check for likely security flaws, memory management/leaking or synchronisation issues (deadlock, access to shared data outside critical sections, etc.), or other kind of checks that depend on whatever domain the tool is intended for.

    It would probably be more useful if you could state which kind of problem you are trying to solve and which tools you are considering to buy. That way, people who have experience with them could suggest which work best :)
  • Testing cycle (Score:5, Informative)

    by mdf356 (774923) <mdf356.gmail@com> on Monday May 19 2008, @11:33AM (#23463856) Homepage
    I forgot to answer your other question.

    Since we've had the tool for a while and have fixed most of the bugs it has found, we are required to run static analysis on new code for the latest release now (i.e. we should not be dropping any new code that has any error in it found via static analysis).

    Just like code reviews, unit testing, etc., it has proved useful and was added to the software development process.
  • by BigBlueOx (1201587) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:34AM (#23463862)
    Ya can't beat a good "Lint party" after all the testing is done! You'll find all kinds of cool stuff that slipped through your testing suites.

    However, static code analysis is just one part of the bug-finding process. For example, in your list, in my limited experience, I have found that buffer overflows and NULL pointer derefs get spotted really well. Race conditions? Memory leaks? Hmm. Not so good.

    YMMV. Don't expect magic. Oh to hellwithit, just let the end-users test it *ow!*
  • Yes. (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:35AM (#23463868)
    The Astrée [astree.ens.fr] static analyser (based on abstract interpretation) proved the absence of run-time errors in the primary control software of the Airbus A380.
  • Yes (Score:5, Informative)

    by kevin_conaway (585204) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:36AM (#23463876) Homepage

    Add me to the Yes column

    We use them (PMD and FindBugs) for eliminating code that is perfectly valid, yet has bitten us in the past. Two Java examples are unsynchronized access to a static DateFormat object and using the commons IOUtils.copy() instead of IOUtils.copyLarge().

    Most tools are easy to add to your build cycle and repay that effort after the first violation

  • MIT Site (Score:4, Interesting)

    by yumyum (168683) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:38AM (#23463890)
    I took a very cool graduate-level class at MIT from Dr. Michael Ernst [mit.edu] about this very subject. Check out some of the projects listed at http://groups.csail.mit.edu/pag/ [mit.edu].
  • by BrotherBeal (1100283) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:40AM (#23463914)
    the more they stay the same. Static code analysis tools are just like smarter compilers, better language libraries, new-and-improved software methodologies, high-level dynamic languages, modern IDE's, automated unit test runners, code generators, document tools and any number of other software tools that have shown up over the past few decades.

    Yes, static code analysis can help improve a team's ability to deliver a high-quality product, if it is embraced by management and its use is enforced. No, it will not change the face of software development, nor will it turn crappy code into good code or lame programmers into geniuses. At best, when engineers and management agree this is a useful tool, it can do almost all the grunt work of code cleanup by showing exactly where problem code is and suggesting extremely localized fixes. At worst, it will wind up being a half-assed code formatter since nobody can agree on whether the effort is necessary.

    Just like all good software-engineering questions, the answer is 'it depends'.
  • by RJCantrell (1290054) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:40AM (#23463918)
    In my own corner of the world (.NET Compact Framework 2.0 on old, arcane hardware), they certainly don't. Each time I get optimistic and search for new or previously-missed static analysis tools, all roads end up leading to FxCop. Horrible signal-to-noise ratio, and a relatively small number of real detectable problems. That said, I'm always willing to submit myself to the genius of the slashdot masses. If you know of a great one, feel free to let me know. = )
  • by Chairboy (88841) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:41AM (#23463938) Homepage
    At Symantec, I used to use these tools to help plan tests. I wrote a simple code velocity tool that monitored Perforce checkins and generated code velocity graphs and alerts in different components as time passed. With it, QA could easily see which code was being touched the most and dig down to the specific changelists and see what was going on. It really helped keep good visibility on what needed the most attention and helped everyone avoid being 'surprised' by someone dropping a bunch of changes into an area that wasn't watched carefully. During the final days of development before our products escaped to manufacturing, this provided vital insight into what was happening.

    I've since moved on, and I think the tool has since gone offline, but I think there's a real value to doing static analysis as part of the planning for everything else.
  • Coverity & Klocwork (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 19 2008, @11:50AM (#23464056)
    We have had presentations from both Coverity and Klocwork at my workplace. I'm not entirely fond of them, but they're wayyyyy better than 'lint'. :) I much prefer using "Purify" whenever possible, since run-time analysis tends to produce fewer false-positives.

    My comments would be:

    (1) Klockwork & Coverity tend to produce a lot of "false positives". And by a lot, I mean, *A LOT*. For every 10000 "critical" bugs reported by the tool, only a handful may be really worth investigating. So you may spend a fair bit of time simply weeding through what is useful and what isn't.

    (2) They're expensive. Coverity costs $50k for every 500k lines of code per year... We have a LOT more code than this. For the price, we could hire a couple of guys to run all of our tools through Purify *and* fix the bugs they found. Klocwork is cheaper; $4k per seat, minimum number of seats.

    (3) They're slow. It takes several days running non-stop on our codebase to produce the static analysis databases. For big projects, you'll need to set aside a beefy machine to be a dedicated server. With big projects, there will be lots of bug information, so the clients tend to get bogged down, too.

    In short: It all depends on how "mission critical" your code is; is it important, to you, to find that *one* line of code that could compromise your system? Or is your software project a bit more tolerant? (e.g., If you're writing nuclear reactor software, it's probably worthwhile to you to run this code. If you're writing a video game, where you can frequently release patches to the customer, it's probably not worth your while.)
  • Trends or Crutches? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bsDaemon (87307) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:51AM (#23464066) Homepage
    I'll probably get modded to hell for asking but seriously -- all these new trends, tools, etc - are they not just crutches, which in the long run are seriously going to diminish the quality of output by programmers?

    For instance, we put men on the moon with a pencil and a slide rule. Now no one would dream of taking a high school math class with anything less than a TI-83+.

    Languages like Java and C# are being hailed while languages like C are derided and many posts here on slashdot call it outmoded and say it should be done away with, yet Java and C# are built using C.

    It seems to me that there is no substitute for actually knowing how things work at the most basic level and doing them by hand. Can a tool like Lint help? Yes. Will it catch everything? Likely not.

    As generations of kids grow up with the automation made by generations who came before, and have less incentive to learn how the basic tools work, an incentive which will diminish, approaching 0, I think we're in for something bad.

    As much as people bitch about kids who were spoiled by BASIC, you'd think that they'd also complain about all the other spoilers. Someday all this new, fancy stuff could break and someone who only knows Java, and even then checks all their source with automated tools will likely not be able to fix it.

    Of course, this is more of just a general criticism and something I've been thinking about for a few weeks now. Anyway, carry on.
    • by Lord_Frederick (642312) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:08PM (#23464256)
      Any tool can be considered a "crutch" if it's misused. I don't think anyone that put men on the moon would want to return to sliderules, but a calculator is only a crutch if the user doesn't understand the underlying fundamentals. Debugging tools are just tools until they stop simply performing tedious work and start doing what the user is not capable of understanding.
    • These tools require skill. Blindly fixing things that Lint shows up can introduce new bugs or conversely using lint notation to shut the warnings off can mask bugs.

      I also don't think new languages help bad programmers much. Bad code is still bad code so now instead of crashing it will just memory leak or just not work right.

      On a software project I worked on before our competition spent two years and two million dollars did their code in visual basic and MSSQL and they abandoned their effort when no matter what hardware they threw at it they couldn't get their software to handle more than 400 concurrent users. We did our project in C and with a team for 4 built something in about a year that handled 1200 users on a quad CPU P III 400mhz Compaq. Even when another competitor posed as a client and borrowed some of my ideas (they added a comms layer instead of using the SQL server for communication) they still required a whole rack of machines to do what we did with one out of badly out of date test machine.

      C is a fine tool if you know how to use it so I doubt it will go away any time soon.
  • To a degree, yes (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gweihir (88907) on Monday May 19 2008, @11:53AM (#23464098)
    You actually need to tolerate a number of false positives in order to get good coverage of the true bugs. That means you have to follow-up on every report in detail and understand it.

    However these things do work and are highly recommended. If you use other advanced techniques (like Descign by Contract),they will be a lot less useful though. They are best for traditional code that does not have safety-nets (i.e. most code).

    Stay away from tools that do this without using your compiler. I recently evaluated some static analysis tools found that the tools that do not use the native compilers can have serious problems. One example was an incorrecly set symbol in the internal compiler of one tool, that could easily change the code functionality drastically. Use tools that work frrom a build environment and utilize the compiler you are using to build.
  • Yes, absolutely (Score:5, Informative)

    by Llywelyn (531070) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:02PM (#23464190) Homepage

    FindBugs is becoming increasingly widespread on Java projects, for example. I found that between it and JLint I could identify a substantial chunk of problems caused by inexperienced programmers, poor design, hastily written code, etc. JLint was particularly nice for potential deadlocks, while FindBugs was good for just about everything else.

    For example:

    • Failure to make null checks.
    • Ignoring exceptions
    • Defining equals() but not hashCode() (and the other variations)
    • Improper use of locks.
    • Poor or inconsistent use of synchronization.
    • Failure to make defensive copies.
    • "Dead stores."
    • Many others [sourceforge.net]

    At least in the Java world, I wish more people would use them. It would make my job so much easier.

    My experience in the Python world is that pylint is less interesting than FindBugs: many of the more interesting bugs are hard problems in a dynamically typed language and so it has more "religious style issues" built in that are easier to test for. It still provides a great deal of useful output once configured correctly, and can help enforce a consistent coding standard.

  • by iamwoodyjones (562550) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:04PM (#23464208) Journal
    I have used static analysis as part of our build process on our Continous Integration machines and it's definitely worth your time to set it up and use it. We use FindBugs with our Java code and have it output html reports on a nightly basis. Our team lead comes in early in the morning and peruses them and assigns them to either "Suppress" or fix the issues. We shoot for zero bugs either through suppressing them if they aren't bugs or by fixing them. FindBugs doesn't give too many false positives so it works great.

    Could this be just another trend?

    I don't worry about what's "trendy" or not. Just give the tool a shot in your group and see if it helps/works for you or not. If it does keep using it otherwise abandon it.

    What kind of changes did the tools bring about in your testing cycle?

    We use it _before_ the test cycle. We use it to catch mistakes such as "Whoops! Dereferenced a pointer there, my bad" before going into the test cycle.

    And most importantly, did the results justify the expense?

    Absolutely. The startup cost of adding static analysis for us was one developer for 1/2 a day to setup FindBugs to work on our CI build on a nightly basis to give us HTML reports. After that, the cost is our team lead to check the reports in the morning (he's an early riser) and create bug reports based on them to send to us. Some days there's no reports, other days (after a large check-in) it might be 5-10 and about an hour of his time.

    It's best to view this tool as preventing bugs, synchronization issues, performance issues, you name it issues before going into the hands of testers. But, you can extend several of the tools like FindBugs to be able to add new static analysis test cases. So if a tester finds a common problem that effects the code you can go back and write a static analysis case for that, add it to the tool and the problem shouldn't reach the tester again.

  • Many of never all (Score:5, Informative)

    by mugnyte (203225) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:13PM (#23464302) Homepage Journal

      Short version:

          There are real bugs, with huge consequences, that can be detected with static analysis.
          The tools are easy to find and worth the price, depending on the customer base you have.
          In the end, that cannot detect "all" bugs that could arise in the code.

      Worth it?
          Only you can decide, but after a few sessions learning why tools flag suspect code, if you take those suggest to heart, you will be a better coder.
  • by ncw (59013) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:19PM (#23464382) Homepage
    The linux kernel developers use a tool originally written by Linux Torvalds for static analysis - sparse.

    http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/devel/sparse/ [kernel.org]

    Sparse has some features targeted at kernel development - for instance spotting mixing up kernel and user space pointers and a system of code annotations.

    I haven't used it but I do see on the kernel mailing list that it regularly finds bugs.
  • by nguy (1207026) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:25PM (#23464448)
    Generally, these tools make up for deficiencies in the underlying languages; better languages can guarantee absence of these errors through their type systems and other constructs. Furthermore, these tools can't give you yes/no answers, they only warn you about potential sources of problems, and many of those warnings are spurious.

    I've never gotten anything useful out of these tools. Generally, encapsulating unsafe operations, assertions, unit testing, and using valgrind, seem both necessary and sufficient for reliably eliminating bugs in C++. And whenever I can, I simply use better languages.
  • by tikal_work (885055) on Monday May 19 2008, @12:36PM (#23464566)

    Something that we've found incredibly useful here and in past workplaces was to watch the _differences_ between Gimpel PC-Lint runs, rather than just the whole output.

    The output for one of our projects, even with custom error suppression and a large number of "fixups" for lint, borders on 120MiB of text. But you can quickly reduce this to a "status report" consisting of statistics about the number of errors -- and with a line-number-aware diff tool, report just any new stuff of interest. It's easy to flag common categories of problems for your engine to raise these to the top of the notification e-mails.

    Keeping all this data around (it's text, it compresses really well) allows you to mine it in the future. We've had several cases where Lint caught wind of something early on, but it was lost in the noise or a rush to get a milestone out -- when we find and fix it, we're able to quickly audit old lint reports both for when it was introduced and also if there are indicators that it's happening in other places.

    And you can do some fun things like do analysis of types of warnings generated by author, etc -- play games with yourself to lower your lint "score" over time...

    The big thing is keeping a bit of time for maintenance (not more than an hour a week, at this point) so that the signal/noise ratio of the diffs and stats reports that are mailed out stays high. Talking to your developers about what they like / don't like and tailoring the reports over time helps a lot -- and it's an opportunity to get some surreptitious programming language education done, too.