Forgot your password?
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

Lead PHP Developer Quits

Comments Filter:
  • by mkavanagh2 (776662) on Friday July 28, 2006 @07:47AM (#15797829)
    "_sniper_" is Jani Taskinen.
    <_sniper_> hehehehe..
    <_sniper_> all other members of the UN security council wanted to condemn Israel for attacking the UN post but USA (freedom and democracy) vetoed it....Israel says the resolution was fair.
    <_sniper_> hell yeah..
    <_sniper_> NUKE ISRAEL!
    <_sniper_> I'm so full of that fucking country..
    <Shai-Tan> indeed
    <_sniper_> Eye for an eye..I'll kill one Israel officer for one of ours, is that fair?
    <_sniper_> I bet I'll be hanged for that.
    <_sniper_> They kill one of my brother-in-arms-for-peace..I think I'm entitled to kill one of their nazis.
    <_sniper_> Hezbollah, where can I enlist?
    <_sniper_> FYI: I don't care at all what anybody thinks about me. I'm going to be openly anti-Israel from now on. This was the last straw for me. Fuck you jews.
    <_sniper_> I will also quit this project. As long as it's backed by some Israel company, I don't want to have anything to do with it.
    <_sniper_> Good bye.
    <-- _sniper_ (~jani@a88-112-115-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has left #php.pecl
    Seriously. Not kidding.
    • Can anyone corroborate this with logs of their own, or is this just a troll? (Leaning towards troll...)
    • by ovatto (607617) on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:22AM (#15798055)
      It probably has something to do with this: http://virtual.finland.fi/stt/showarticle.asp?intN WSAID=13246&group=General [finland.fi]
      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:26AM (#15798082)
        Jani has served as an UN peacekeeper. So probably, very much.
        • Ironic (Score:2, Insightful)

          by lbbros (900904)
          Ironic that a former "peacekeeper" says "Nuke"... Very lame, regardless of the reason.
          • "Ironic that a former "peacekeeper" says "Nuke"... Very lame, regardless of the reason."

            You'd probably say much the same thing if someone dropped a laser-guided bomb on your colleague's head.
            • Re:Ironic (Score:5, Interesting)

              by Eric S. Smith (162) on Friday July 28, 2006 @10:24AM (#15798972) Homepage
              Ironic that a former "peacekeeper" says "Nuke"... Very lame, regardless of the reason.
              You'd probably say much the same thing if someone dropped a laser-guided bomb on your colleague's head.

              And since he hasn't actually killed anyone in his frustration and rage, he's still miles behind the bomb-flingers of the world in the lameness department.

      • Finnish media reported that the UN Observers where bombed for *hours* and they where calling their own representatives and israeli fire lead to stop the bombing because the bombs where getting very close to the observation post. Had few beers but if i remember right, the bombings start around 13:30 finnish time and OP went quiet around 19:15 when the made direct hit into the bunker where the 3 un personnel where located. All the pleas where replied by "Yes, we will stop the bombarding" but it didnt happen.
        • The burning question for me is why the UN observers were not pulled from the area when Israel began operations -- especially when the terrorists in that area have a history of embedding themselves among civilians and non-combatants. Someone should be sacked, if not jailed, for this incompetence.
    • Come on mods. Copy and pasted IRC logs, posted without a referencing link, +5? Even if this DOES turn out to be from him, does this really need to be posted here on Slashdot?

      • Well, in a way it does belong. The original story claims that his departure was cryptic. If this log is accurate, then it removes any ambiguity.
    • If this is real (which I still have a hard time beliving), give the guy a break. It was obviously written in anger. And I am betting that you would be pretty pissed too, if your country men were being killed* because some murderous wanker in the Israeli army decided that bombing a UN post would be a good idea.

      *For those living under a rock, one of the killed UN peacekeepers [bbc.co.uk] was from Finland.
    • by ben there... (946946) on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:37AM (#15798156) Journal
      That doesn't appear to be a complete transcript. Specifically:
      _sniper_ hehehehe..
      _sniper_ all other members of the UN security council wanted to condemn Israel for attacking the UN post but USA (freedom and democracy) vetoed it....Israel says the resolution was fair.
      _sniper_ hell yeah..
      _sniper_ NUKE ISRAEL!

      What's he saying "hell yeah..." and "hehehehe.." to? It seems completely incongruous with the rest of his statements, unless something was left out.
      • by Rob Kaper (5960)
        Obviously the part before 'hehehe' is cut, but 'hell yeah' might be meant as irony.

        I suppose we'll find out sooner or later, I doubt Jani will be silent on the issue much longer. Absence of a response isn't proof he did say and mean it, but it would certainly be very foolish in any other case.

        If we follow Occam's razor then surely he would deny the words if the logs aren't true while if they are he would apologise for a sad, emotional rant. I suspect returning from his decision that he cannot work on PHP as
    • " FYI: I don't care at all what anybody thinks about me. I'm going to be openly anti-Israel from now on. This was the last straw for me. Fuck you jews."

      If it's true, that's a nice little bit of anti-Semitism at the end. He may want to be anti-Israel, but he's just exposed himself as a garden-variety anti-Semite, too.

      That said, I hope it's not true, and that this is made up. Any independent corroboration?

      -Erwos
      • by robinjo (15698) on Friday July 28, 2006 @10:29AM (#15799014)

        If it's true, that's a nice little bit of anti-Semitism at the end. He may want to be anti-Israel, but he's just exposed himself as a garden-variety anti-Semite, too.

        Writing as a fellow Finn, I can assure you that most people here don't know the difference between Jews and Israel. I'm sure Jani only has hard opinions against the government and the politics of the Israel state.

        Furthermore, I really think that the anti-semitist card has been used for far too long already. Hitler did a horrible crime against Jews but Israel shouldn't use that to gain political advantage any more. Israel is not the weak little victim in this conflict.

        • "Furthermore, I really think that the anti-semitist card has been used for far too long already. Hitler did a horrible crime against Jews but Israel shouldn't use that to gain political advantage any more. Israel is not the weak little victim in this conflict."

          I don't understand how you can rationalize "fuck you, jews" to be anti-Israel, and not anti-Semitic.

          -Erwos
          • I don't understand how you can rationalize "fuck you, jews" to be anti-Israel, and not anti-Semitic.

            Dude, nobody hates jews as a race or as individuals up here. Many oppose of their politics in Israel, though. Any jews living here don't have to worry about their security a single bit.

            • by Erwos (553607)
              Sure, but the problem is, if you can't make the distinction between Jews and Israelis, any serious hatred towards Israelis promptly carries over towards Jews. This is part of the problem with the whole "anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic" paradigm - one seems to lead directly to the other in many cases. I refer you to The Journal of Conflict Resolution [yale.edu] for more information about this phenomenon.

              I never, ever intended to say that Finns were all Jew-haters, and I definitely don't believe that. I am saying that an
        • Jews are a race. Some of the people living in Israel are Jewish, but there's no 1:1 relation. I don't think a hair stylist in Boca Raton, Florida who had bacon and eggs this morning and hasn't been to Temple since her grandfather died should get a hearty "Fuck you" because some idiots who share her race on the other side of the world have gone rabidly overboard on a zero tolerance policy. Heck, there are plenty of countries that have had bad policies and done some pretty nasty stuff. I don't run around
          • One thing worth noting is also that Finland is a very homogenous country. Almost everybody are ethnically finnish. In spoken language we even refer to our swedish speaking minority as swedes even though they have nothing more than a language common with our western neighbour.

            So people in Finland tend to associate people with countries instead of races. The only exception is maybe black people who are mostly associated with somali.
        • I can assure you that most people here don't know the difference between Jews and Israel

          Wow. You're saying people who commit hate crimes are ignorant? SHUT UP!!!

          I really think that the anti-semitist card has been used for far too long already. Hitler did a horrible crime against Jews but Israel shouldn't use that to gain political advantage any more

          Israel is NOT using that for political advantage. They are merely acknowledging the reality that given the opportunity, someone will again try to extermin

        • Israel is not the weak little victim in this conflict.

          I'll ignore your first rant about how Jews should get over the slaughter of 6 million of their people circa 1940 and focus on the inaccurate statement quoted above.

          Israel is in fact the weak little victim in this conflict. This is a proxy war - the real player is Iran and to a lesser extent Syria. There's little positive in this conflict for Hezbullah. The only ones that benefit truly from this are the leaders of Iran and they plan on pushing thi
    • by Nestafo (777210) on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:43AM (#15798198)
      I have no specific information about this incident, but if the IRC log is not a fake, this might be related:

      http://wfrv.com/topstories/topstories_story_206180 457.html [wfrv.com]

      One of the four UN peacekeepers killed by Israel was a 29-year old Finn.
    • by Badly Configured (231381) * on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:46AM (#15798215)
      Without making any comment on the previous post, it might be worth mentioning that Jani himself has served as a UN peace keeper in Southern Lebanon and has been at the receiving end of both Israel and Hezbollah fire. This may entitle him to have strong personal feelings about the recent death of a Finnish peace keeper at the same location, along ones from other countries.
    • by mkavanagh2 (776662) on Friday July 28, 2006 @08:50AM (#15798243)
      Names changed because I like search/replace.
      <apples> i don't think you should have posted it at all
      <apples> and you could atleast have posted the whole thing
      <pears> bananas jani is a good friend of ours
      < bananas> I didn't have the whole thing
      <pears> bananas: posting something out of contest is bad, and its not going to do him any good
      <apples> the whole stuff on slashdot is actually crap
      <apples> but that is nothing new
      * pears is debating with himself whether to post to slasdot
      <hedge> don't
      <trees> well I kind of feel sorry for this now, I didn't expect pasting a few lines to a friend to turn into something
      ike this :S
      <pears> i have this feeling that it is unfair to jano
      <pears> jani
      <trees> however I wonder why he said that?
      <pears> not to mentioned his life long peac keeping contributions
      <hedge> it is, but IMO it's too late to change anything
      <pears> serving among other places kosovo and lebanon
      <pears> and being there himself (at the post where the 4 un peackeepers were killed by isreal)
      <pears> and currently serving in afganistan
      <pears> all that, and thanks to the IQ of our "friends" bananas and trees here
      <pears> he comes as some nazi anti-semit biggot
      <apples> trees: don't you say stupid things when you're drunk?
    • Jani has been pretty silent all year. Google groups only found 22 posts from him this year. The drop from previous years is huge.

      Anyway, Jani did take part in discussions about Israel on the sfnet.keskustelu.maanpuolustus some five years ago. His opinions were not pro-Israel. This would add credibility to the irc-log. Maybe he knew the Finn who was recently killed in Lebanon by Israel?
    • mkavanagh2, if you're going to be his accuser, please state your full name.
    • Interesting.

      A little history: Finland (.fi) was attacked by the Soviet Union during WWII. As a result they ended up becoming allied with Nazi Germany (enemy of my enemy, etc.). After WWII, because they were on the wrong side (i.e. Axis) they got screwed (territory stolen from them by the USSR was not given back). So I imagine that there is some undercurrent of ill feeling in Finland, that Nazi sympathies are not unknown, and a lot of the "conventional wisdom" we have here (Nazi / antisemitism = unacceptable
      • Wow, you make a really dubious leap from events that happened over 60 years ago to suggest Finland is a hotbed of extreme right politics. In fact, Finland has never had a far right movement of any significant size, even when these things were fashionable in the 1930's. There was the Lapua movement, but that was a small group with very hazy political views. As for resentment over the land taken by the Soviet Union, there is no serious interest in reclaiming this territory. Every Finnish citizen in that terri

    • I don't really think this IRC log is true. PHP has been linked to Zend since PHP3. Zend has had some serious links to Isreal since the beginning. According to http://www.zend.com/company/management [zend.com] Zeev Suraski is a graduate of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology as is Andi Gutmans. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Php [wikipedia.org]

      Zeev Suraski and Andi Gutmans, two Israeli developers at the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology, rewrote the parser in 1997 and formed the base of PHP 3, changing t

    • A partial quote of the log from a trusted member of the PHP community with a timestamp not included in my quote.

      http://news.php.net/php.internals/25044 [php.net]

      I hope this settles any speculation about who is or is not a Mossad agent fabricating stories to destroy the internet.

The biggest mistake you can make is to believe that you are working for someone else.

 



Forgot your password?
Working...