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ELC Releases Embedded Linux Standard v1.0
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on Fri Feb 21, 2003 07:56 AM
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An anonymous reader writes "The Embedded Linux Consortium (ELC) formally announced its release of the ELC Platform Specification (ELCPS) version 1.0 this week. This LinuxDevices.com Special Report includes the full text of the ELC's announcement, a whitepaper about the ELCPS standard, a newly updated "frequently asked questions" document, a roundup of news coverage, a poll, a discussion thread, and the spec itself."
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*cough*, incorrect (Score:2, Funny)
embedded Linux of limited usefulness (Score:5, Interesting)
Really cheap devices go for small, older, cheaper processors and memories that can't support the relatively high processing capabilities required for Linux systems. For a hundred dollar VCR, Linux is great, but not for a twenty dollar mixmaster.
Many industrial facilities use great numbers of embedded devices. Linux just can not meet the hard real time deadlines required. Even with the low latency and kernel preemtibility patches, Linux doesn't have the granularity necessary to ensure that hard deadlines are met. There are a couple of kludges around that allow Linux to be used on such devices, such as running virtual machines with Linux and a true real time OS and making them communicate via sockets. Sadly proprietary solutions currently fare much better. Mobile telephones also fit in this category; although expensive ones may eventually run Linux and something else, they won't run only Linux.
With all the difficulties facing them, I can't help but wonder why the embedded Linux people bother. They would be better off writing a new OS that had lighter requirements and a design to allow it to meet hard real time deadlines. That would be a big step forward for putting the GPL in embedded platforms.
Re:embedded Linux of limited usefulness (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://127.0.0.1/ | Last Journal: Saturday August 04, @07:40AM)
Re:embedded Linux of limited usefulness (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://snogglethorpe.googlepages.com/home)
Sure there are embedded applications and devices for which linux is probably inappropriate, but so what? Linux won't get used there. However, the word `embedded' covers a lot of ground, and there are many embedded applications and devices for which linux is a perfectly fine solution -- and that's where linux will be (and is) used.
[Morever, as another post pointed out, the hardware used for embedded devices is continually getting more powerful, for any given application, making linux more and more practical.]
A chance to compete in an emerging market (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://everest.fit.qut.edu.au/~n2746751/)
This spec is a good thing! (Score:4, Interesting)
produced a simple range of embedded subsets of the
LSB, and carefully avoided inventing anything
of their own beyond a way to query for what
features are available. As a developer of
embedded Linux systems, I think the ELC's
standard is very good work -- suprisingly,
this is an example of a vendor consortium
that did exactly the right thing, engineering-wise.
- Dan Kegel
www.kegel.com
Wow (Score:2)
But I am just wondering, has anyone said they are going to use this specification or are they releasing it hoping someone will use?
Ahh... (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.macetech.com/ | Last Journal: Monday February 16 2004, @01:44PM)
A large amount of new silicon is hitting the market; the line between microcontrollers and computers keeps blurring. Some of these chips (mostly intended for the cell phone industry) run over 350MHz, include large amounts of memory, flash, and peripherals. Linux is an excellent way to manage all of that power, and ease the transfer of applications into embedded devices.
You will have that communicator/computer you want: has all the power you need, projects onto your eye or a wall, responds to speech input, has excessive bandwidth, captures video, etc. It's within my lifetime. And with the help of some standards like these, perhaps it will run some variant of Linux. You never know.
The importance of Embedded linux (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.fgov.be/ | Last Journal: Sunday March 21 2004, @11:42AM)
Linux already satisfies the four most popular criteria: Real Time capabilities, royalty free licensing, it runs on a variety of CPUs and it provides access to source code.
No wonder Motorola choose [thestreet.com] for the linux solution.
Is the specification available in a free format? (Score:2, Interesting)
John Sauter (J_Sauter@Empire.Net)
Re:I want Linux to run on my... (Score:2, Funny)
(http://www.shishnet.org/)
this toaster [sun.com]
burns the weather into your toast - done by java, maybe linux is in there somewhere though
Re:Hrm (Score:2)
(http://127.0.0.1/ | Last Journal: Saturday August 04, @07:40AM)