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Knoppix 3.3 Is Out
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on Mon Sep 22, 2003 09:59 PM
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maedls.at writes "After 6 months of development, the latest version of Knoppix 3.3 is out - Kernel 2.4.22 with HIGHMEM (4GB) support, KDE 3.1.3, XFree86 4.3, OpenOffice 1.0.3 (German and English), KOffice 1.2.1, new boot options for RAM or hard-disk preload of the CD. Possibility to create a persistent homedir with personal data and desktop settings on a memory stick or similar, optional with AES encryption." The main Knoppix site is still down in protest of European software patent legislation (click on the link inside the English paragraph to get to the meat of the site), but the excellent knoppix.net has a detailed changelog.
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BitTorrent (Score:1, Interesting)
What you don't look at the page first? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.nomorestars.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday December 31 2003, @11:23AM)
Re:What you don't look at the page first? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://exolucere.ca/)
It looks like linux distros are 'getting it' and posting torrent links to help curb their bandwidth bills.
Now let's hope the next version of RedHat is available from an official RH bittorrent link...
Re:What you don't look at the page first? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://exolucere.ca/)
I got RH9 off bittorrent and my download was 600kB/s, while my upload was 900 kB/s. That's why I want an official bittorrent link, instead of just the university links.
Re:What you don't look at the page first? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://makeshift.halifrag.com/)
Amazingly enough, the story isn't an article to go see, it's an iso to download. So should everyone go hit knoppix's server to slashdot it for a while? Or should the smart ones of us realize there are torrents available, and click one of them so as to not slashdot the website?
DVD Knoppix? (Score:5, Interesting)
and start including mplayer on these cds
flaming debian-legal list=legal issues? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/)
*rolling eyes*
If that's Xnoppix's reason, they've been reading debian-legal too much and comparing the code too little. If Mplayer has "legal issues", then so does Xine. Both players can decrypt DVDs, both can use borrowed win32 codecs, both use algorithms that are subject to patents (in the US). Where's the difference? The Mplayer devs got into a nasty flamewar with debian-legal people, and the Xine team didn't.
knx-hdinstall (Score:5, Informative)
(http://limpet.net/mbrubeck/)
That's what the knx-hdinstall command does.
Re:DVD Knoppix? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://jasonditz.com/)
Re:DVD Knoppix? (Score:4, Informative)
Mostly, it's to hard for the One Guy [Klaus Knopper] and a couple friends to keep up more than 1 offical version. So for quality-sake, they don't do that, and try to keep one version they can test throughly and do a really GREAT JOB on! It's better that way.
Not to ruin the mood... (Score:1, Interesting)
Knoppix as a restore / recovery tool (Score:1, Offtopic)
My 2000 system was on an old 2GB drive that was about to fail and with ghost I was up and running much faster on a 13GB drive in less than an hour. I also have an image of my web-server's OS/app drive in case it ever fails.
Knoppix and what I do is basically what prebuilt system manufacturers have been doing for years. It's just that HP, et al, add a lot of crap to the image.
Fix for nvidia chipset? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/)
how about a patched kernel (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Dammit! (Score:3, Funny)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @12:54AM)
Re:Dammit! (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.nomorestars.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday December 31 2003, @11:23AM)
Hurry up and make my download go faster! (Score:3, Informative)
That's for the English image. V3.3-2003-09-22.
worked for me today (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.jab.org/)
Where to actually get the software (Score:1)
http://www.knoppix.net/get.php [knoppix.net]
There look to be quite a few mirrors so you might actually get to download the software.
Re:After you get it, Help Advertise Knoppix. (Score:4, Insightful)
It's great to show Bosses, because you don't have to wreck a computer to use it! But an AOL style mass mailing would be a really, really bad idea. It still requires somebody to SHOW how to use it, otherwise people will hate it rather than like it!
Get it in Canada (Score:5, Informative)
(http://rym.waglo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 10 2004, @12:11PM)
If you don't have access to a good pipe, you can always order it from Nattor the Little CD Vendor:
http://www.waglo.com/nattor/ [waglo.com]
P.S.: don't complain that my sig is redundant - someone probably has them turned off. Thanks :)
How to create a persistant homedir on USB memory (Score:2)
How can I create a persistant home directory on it?
I love Knoppix, and this was my big gripe.
Re:How to create a persistant homedir on USB memor (Score:5, Informative)
(http://rym.waglo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 10 2004, @12:11PM)
Re:How to create a persistant homedir on USB memor (Score:4, Informative)
(http://rym.waglo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 10 2004, @12:11PM)
From the knoppix homepage:
Also these options:
If you want to bring in the big guns, there's knoppix-std [knoppix-std.org] too, with encryption support, etc.
Lucky me... (Score:1)
(http://www.hurtley.org/ | Last Journal: Wednesday August 01, @03:12PM)
Hrm.... It'll be a little longer than I thought. Getting a bt server running on Windows appears to be more than I'm willing to tackle. I'll have it on my Mac soon. I'll reply to this post when I've got one set up.
Why no OpenOffice.org 1.1.0? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/~The%20Revolutionary/journal | Last Journal: Saturday October 04 2003, @10:47PM)
Re:Why no OpenOffice.org 1.1.0? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://stefanco.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday October 14, @11:09AM)
Knopper is very limited by space. Perhaps he didn't want to include software that's still in the testing phase? There's alot of software available in Debian unstable (contrib) , but not all of it is production-ready.
RC4 only came out a few weeks ago, and it does take some time for the Knoppix folks to put out a release ("... After 6 months of development... ").
Re:Why no OpenOffice.org 1.1.0? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://jesusislife.net/micah/ | Last Journal: Monday November 24 2003, @02:09AM)
Yes, but the OOo folks have said that it is production-ready. I think they did at RC3.
OOo 1.1.x, even in its current RC form, is light years ahead of OOo 1.0.x, and very stable. No new distro release should ever ship 1.0.x again, period!
It **IS** on there.... (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.stirnimann.com/mystuff/doc/knoppix.t
It's open source, man. Have at it. Be sure to send a link to Slashdot and let everyone know how much a l337 haX0r you are.
Knoppix still king of bootable CDs (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.proxc.com/)
As it's debian-based, I'm hoping some more of the hardware-detection, auto-setup, and visual polish can make it to stock Debian (yes, I know you can "upgrade" to full Debian after booting knoppix). The boot process is cleaned up and functional for new users to Linux, and the speed is remarkable for loading a compressed image off a CD (so long as you have 128+ megs of RAM).
Kudos to those who work and contribute to Knoppix for producing such a quality assembly of open source software in such a useful form.
Knoppix for USB Key? (Score:1)
(http://www.phr4g.net/)
Re:Knoppix for USB Key? (Score:4, Informative)
(http://rym.waglo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 10 2004, @12:11PM)
You mean like Damn Small Linux [damnsmalllinux.org] ? That's a debian derivatives, but only 50MiB.
http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/ [uni-karlsruhe.de] will guide you into fitting it on your usb key.
Good luck!
Sweet. brltty support (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.amazon.co...HBXD7LUL7/ref=wl_web | Last Journal: Wednesday February 14 2007, @02:18AM)
(brltty is a driver that allows text to be output to braille displays, typically used by the blind and the deaf-blind. Read my journal for a little bit more info.)
Virtual Knoppix (Score:5, Interesting)
Include a virtualisation program(s) which would let you run knoppix in a virtual machine. Then, you don't have to reboot PC's, you just plug in the CD, have it autoplay(or manually run it) and nearly instantly, the linux system boots up.
Is there anything that would be difficult about that?
Knearly Knice (Score:3)
(http://slashdot.org/~donnz/journal/ | Last Journal: Monday September 12 2005, @04:13PM)
My main problem with Knoppix is the OpenOffice install not being able to get out of English US (changing the language for spell checking in OO is a major pain even in 1.1). This is an issue when doing a quick demo of how great the GNU/Linux office tools are.
Wallpaper (Score:1)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Jesus (Score:5, Funny)
But those bootup colors! (Score:1)
Oops? (Score:1, Redundant)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @12:54AM)
Knoppix.net
SQL/DB Error -- [
1. Error establishing a database connection!Are you sure you have the correct user/password?
2. Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname?
3. Are you sure that the database server is running?
]
SQL/DB Error -- [
1. Error selecting database knoppix!Are you sure it exists?
2. Are you sure there is a valid database connection?
]
Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in
SQL/DB Error -- [Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)]
Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in
SQL/DB Error -- [Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)]
Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in
SQL/DB Error -- [Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)]
phpBB : Critical Error
Could not connect to the database
Polish? (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://exolucere.ca/)
It was kind of annoying, but other than that knoppix itself was great (in fact, it came in handy when my HD fried and it took me a week to replace it, knoppix was the only distro I could use... otherwise, my PC would have been a paperweight).
Of course I can't get to the changelog, it's slashdotted. I'll have to wait for the download to finish so I can boot it.
3D games, no accel? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
It seems to me that it will just result in thousands of introductions like this:
"Hey cool, a 3D game! (click)
(0.5 fps game menu displays)
Wait, this is crap, Linux sucks!"
Still no widely available DVD distro yet? (Score:2)
(http://www.otierney.net/)
Typical (Score:1)
The best trial version of Linux available (Score:2)
(http://www.thundersplace.com/)
Show Knoppix around to your friends and associates, you never know who will be intrigued enough to try it out. Watch the smile on their faces as you inform them it's free. Thanks a lot, Knopper!
Downloading the 2003-09-22 image over 56K dialup as I speak
My problems with Knoppix (Score:3, Funny)
I was not impressed to say the least.
I booted the operating system and then started work on an essay on the ontological beliefs of Heraclitus of Ephesos. First of all starting OpenOffice.org ('.org' at the end of an application name? What's with that?) took incredibly long. I could have installed my copy (yes, it's legit and paid for) of Windows Millenium Edition in the time it took to boot Knoppix and start OpenOffice.org. Anyway it was to my surprise that even though I saved this file to my 'Desktop', the next time I booted Knoppix it was nowhere to be found. So now my philosophy 521 paper was missing -- needless to say I booted into Windows Millenium Edition (where files don't just god damned disappear) and rewrote the paper, printed it (couldn't get that working in Knoppix either) and haven't looked back.
I really like the idea of cooperation and open source software, the community idea seems really neat, and I hope these guys get their stuff together so regular guys like me can use this software at the efficiency and reliability that professional software offers.
Re:Learn before you Graduate...again (Score:4, Informative)
Frankly, you didnt' give this nearly a fair trial. I read other posts, and you didn't take the time to even learn what Knoppix was, or how to work it before you trusted you life's work to it. Had you read up a little before jumping in, you would have learned how to do everything you wanted in about an hour. Been running from start to configured in 10 minutes, and not lost a thing! Even been able to save that file so you could open it in windows!!! Knoppix is meant to "Do no harm!' that means it doesn't write to ANYTHING without you giving it express permission...on NT boxes writing to a drive is lethal--It couldn't assume that you wanted anything saved.
Read up at Knoppix.net! Check out the FAQs, and browse the forums for an evening before trying it out again. You might find that you'll like it!
Time to switch to Apple, buddy! (Score:4, Funny)
(http://zonix.adsl.dk/ | Last Journal: Monday June 09 2003, @05:07AM)
So, it was like ... it devoured your paper? :-)
zHardware Support (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Pack it next time you go! (Score:4, Informative)
Most PCs that can boot from a CDROM should be able to run knoppix. The only way you'll know for sure is to try it out [no harm in trying!] or to read up on specifics on the forum if there's a particular piece of hardware you know you need to support.
Please, try it...You can't really HURT any PCs with it so it's always worth a try!
Re:Hardware Support...networking (Score:5, Interesting)
I happen to know for fact that Knoppix [3.2] works with the 3Com USB/ethernet networking dongle! That is an absolute lifesaver when you have PCs with no/broken nics. The ability to at least capture work from a borked HDD is worth it's weight in gold [ok it's a CD..that's not very much]
Along the same lines... (Score:1)
Dynebolic [dynebolic.org] is at 1.0beta... It's pretty nice, though it wouldn't boot on one of my boxes. Still, once they work out the kinks, it'll be a nice little linux-on-a-cd.
Knoppix and Laks Watch Sav ed Me (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://geekbiker.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 01 2004, @05:57PM)
Money is rather tight, so I wasn't able to get a replacement drive immediately. However, my wife needed internet access at the minimum. Knoppix to the rescue. She was able to get full blown internet access and email. With the addition of my Laks watch with its 128Meg of memory, she had a persistent home directory so her settings (e.g. bookmarks) weren't lost.
I definately feel Knoppix was worth the money I spent on it. Oh wait! It was free! Damn. Such a deal! Seriously. Keep a Knoppix CD handy at all times. Its a life saver.
Just tested it (Score:1)
(http://theboolean.blogspot.com/)
And this is a good idea, gives people something to try out without having to install and mukk about.
Knoppix as a diagnostic tool (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Tuesday April 22 2003, @12:52AM)
I was so damn sure it was a crook motherboard until I threw in a Knoppix 3.2 cd. I opened nearly every app I could at once, and left Pingus and other things runnng over night. No freezes! I could not get Knoppix to crash this system no matter what I played with.
Solution: format c:
Easiest way to Install GNU / Linux Debian : (Score:3, Informative)
FYI (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.ivor.it/)
"Please don't use knx-hdinstall any more!
I won't support it any longer and its just there as uhm, its not my project, but those of Christian Perle.
knoppix-installer should now work in both modes (see below) and give a fairly stable system. "
Does anyone know Klaus' favourite drink? (Score:2)
(http://www.hanno.de/)
KBabel in or out? (Score:1)
Re:KBabel in or out? (Score:4, Funny)
(http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Slashdot | Last Journal: Friday April 20 2007, @10:50AM)
Flat screen support? (Score:2, Interesting)
I'd like a cure for this problem.
I recall I had the same problem with Red Hat 8, but that was quite some time ago.
*cough* (Score:1)
not 'The Largest.'
Rembere the world has two ice
caps..
I'll never download it now. (Score:2)
Is nforce2 supported out of the box? (Score:1)
Knoppix is a lifesaver/NTFS recovery (Score:5, Informative)
I popped it in, booted up, and was ready to amaze my friend. Both his NTFS hard drive and his USB FAT32 hard drive appeared on the desktop automagically after boot. I set the USB drive to read/write by right-clicking and selecting the read/write mode. I opened both drives in two separate windows of Konqueror and performed the data recovery right before his eyes by dragging files from one drive to another.
When the backup was complete, I showed him a few other things like the games and that he was completely internet capable. His jaw dropped in awe. He asked if I would make him a copy of the CD so that he could be internet functional on his computer until he could get a new hard drive. I told him to keep the CD. It was his very first experience with Linux... and a very positive one.
I will reiterate one thing I have already read under this topic. No one should be without a Knoppix CD. Go find yourself a torrent or a mirror and get Knoppix now!!! You never know when it will save your a$$.
3.3Beta? (Score:1)
The ISO i have is KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-22-DE.iso
Is this the newest one an actual release? Still beta? Or did I get the wrong one?
Can anyone help me out?
Also is there anyway to find the version from a running knoppix? And is the changelog stored on the cd anywhere?
And which of the 2 hard drive installation methods is best? knoppix-installer or knx-hdinstall?
Cheers.
mirror in sweden (Score:2, Informative)
(http://fredan.org/)
Mirrors? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @12:54AM)
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://255.255.255.255/)
Try Ctrl+Alt+F2. Replace F2 with F5 to get back to GUI screen.
Re:Why? (Score:4, Informative)
(http://exolucere.ca/)
ROFL.
There's a root shell right in the KDE menu, and from there you can run 'passwd' to change the password. Bam, now you have total root access to the entire knoppix box.
Congratulations, you just rooted your own box.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Unfortunately (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://eric.halo43.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @12:54AM)
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:1, Insightful)
In the article Karl Knopper says "I will not compile for anything lower than a Pentium 1GHz, as we are concerned doing otherwise will hurt the reputation of Linux, which is still considered slow by first time users, so we try to make it as fast as possible"
Re:swarm the torrents (Score:3, Informative)
(http://rym.waglo.com/ | Last Journal: Monday May 10 2004, @12:11PM)
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.phr4g.net/)
Re:Software patents in the US? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Those protesting Europeans... (Score:2)
>>>>>>>>>
Worked for Ghandi...
Re:Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
(http://www.gotapex.com/forums)
The reason I havent tried linux before is mostly because I didnt really have time for it, and when i did, i didnt want to spend it in front of a computer. I mean i bought that ps2 for more than collecting dust. So after just playing around with knoppix a little bit i love it and will be using it more and when i get more time ill move on to something more permanent.
so to answer you question, you should try it on your "reliable good old XP Home Edition" box to see that there is more than just windows out there. Plus when that windows install craps out on you, you can boot up a knoppix disc and be online in minutes.
I've got a Pentium II 233 (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Wednesday March 02 2005, @11:08PM)
Seriously, I do have a PII-233 as my home desktop machine, with 384MB RAM, and I've been looking forward to a new Knoppix release that might do a better job with my lame Trident video card. Instead they drop CPU support! Yaarrrrgh!
Also, my lab has a bunch of doorstop Pentium-60 machines, which are a nice network monitoring server and simple web/ftp server if you don't need any horsepower, though they don't have a lot of RAM on them.
Re:Unfortunately (Score:2)
Knoppix is like a spare tire for Windows XP.
Re:Unfortunately (Score:5, Interesting)
Can't say I agree with that. If XP is infected with a worm or something, and you can't risk getting on line with it, then you can boot into Knoppix. and find the patch/fix you need. Then, when you go to reboot, unplug the network cable and run the patch. Problem fixed.
I had my computer lose power in the middle of a shutdown process once. Win2k was busy updating the registry and hadn't closed the file when the power went. Doh. If I had Knoppix then, I could have gotten online long enough to find out if there was a fix. Or, better yet, I could have done some disk cleanup in order to reinstall Windows. Oh well.
Spare bicycle tire? I think not. Linux is not my favorite OS, but Knoppix would have saved my butt a couple of times.
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:1)
FCK YOU (Score:5, Informative)
This is informative:
1. PII = P6
2. Your 3.2 Knoppix will continue to boot.
Re:Why? (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://www.goldnuggetwebs.com/)
Re:Unfortunately (Score:1, Insightful)
In the second case, there is Personal Web Server for 98/ME, which is free, as well as apache. And there are lots of freeware ftp servers for Windows, that just shows your ignorance of the windows software scene. Of course, if you need a professional grade web server you are running 2k Server or 2k3 server already.
Finally, every time I ever needed to recover my system the XP recovery disk worked for me, and it was easy too. I doubt the average Windows user would be able to make heads or tails of Linux, even on the off chance Knoppix detected their hardware correctly, so it wouldn't be all that useful. Much better to hire a professional technician to sort the problem out.
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, yes, my Super-Micro Pentium that started as a P90 and is now a P166 will boot from CD in the BIOS, and the mb will not even support the dual voltage mmx pentiums. Knopix was actually acceptable on it too for Linux itself, but the GUI was a pig. Still, it would work and once you got something started (like a browser) it worked pretty well.
Not that I use the system much, but it still serves as a test bed when I want to check out new software or for running simple applications when I don't want to tie up my main system, such as an FTP server. I have even used it with Knoppix and Ethereal to do packet sniffing when I needed to watch my main system.
Actually, even if the BIOS doesn't support it, you can boot a PC from CD with "Smart Boot Manager". I use the version included with XOSL [sourceforge.net], which is great. Lets you boot multiple OS, boot from multiple hard drives (not just the first one), boot from A or B floppy, and even boot from any CDR on the system (again, not just the first one).
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:2)
The guys provide Knoppix for free, and if they chose to make it 686-only, then fine by them.
Personally, I think its a mistake, I doubt there's too much of a performance hit (prove me wrong someone
Re:KNOPPIX IS GREAT! (Score:2)
(http://www.blissx.co.uk/)
And some people like to show off their GL-Savers too.
Re:They dropped support for x586 (Score:2, Informative)