Microsoft Porting SQL Server To New Platforms 174
FuzzyGuru writes "Hot on the heels of the 'Most Important Ever' MySQL reaching Beta status, Microsoft is finally taking the Linux plunge. Microsoft has decided to release a version of MSSQL2005 for Linux, Unix and XBox." From the article: "We thought it was important to address the Linux/Unix marketplace, providing a key database for their use on that platform as applications are developed and deployed...In addition, with the Xbox development opportunities, it's clear that SQL Server is the database platform that can now be used in the full customer lifecycle - from business-related applications support to consumer and gaming applications, the full line of SQL Server offerings will be available to support those needs."
Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:5, Insightful)
The truth of the matter is that Microsoft could be doing a lot more business if they'd stop insisting that their OS be used at all times, period. Look at their Office X product line, for example. As I understand it, Microsoft is generating excellent revenue from its existence. While Office might not make as much sense on other OSes, Microsoft could probably sell SQL Server for Unix, IIS for Unix, and Active Directory for Unix. At the very least it would keep people from sticking SAMBA servers all over the place.
BTW, did anyone notice that Microsoft's "cross-platform" versions of IE disappeared shortly after the Feds found them to be a monopoly? Almost seems like the products existed only for the purpose of making it *look* like Microsoft was playing nice. Once it was proven that they weren't, they stopped trying to keep the image up. Not that I know of anyone who actually *used* IE for Solaris...
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Thank God IE 5.5 for Mac died a swift death. Now if only we could tell the rest of the Mac users that they really, really shouldn't be using that thing...
Regarding SQL Server... no idea about how good or bad it is vs. other databases (though if you want a legit 4/1 laugh, read this [mssqlcity.com] for an explanation of how SQL Server and Oracle might be equal in the "you get what you pay
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Looking at your link, I suddenly realize why Oracle always seems so much faster and flexible [mssqlcity.com]. It seems that it is. (Especially when you've got a good DBA. Booyah!)
Now if only Oracle didn't cost so damn much...
Thank God IE 5.5 for Mac died a swift death.
Sorry sport, there was nothing swift about IE4Mac's death. Even after IE 5 for Solaris and HP-UX wa
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Of course anyone who really knows anything can't say so lest they violate their NDA's.
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:1)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
IE for Unix was horrid anyway, but it demonstrate that there was absolutely no technical barrier to porting code to that platform. In fact I reckon it would take considerably less work to port Office t
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:3, Insightful)
It certainly wouldn't surprise me. Remember when Win95 first came out? Win32 was offerred as an upgrade to Win3.1. Once you had the Win32 library installed, you could run many of the programs supposedly designed only for Win95. Interesting how a complete
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
But WINE is much more powerful - calls might be mapped onto their Linux equivalents but mostly this is possible without caveats since the two operating systems share similar functionality - 32bits (or more), threads, IPC, TCP/IP, virtual memory, long file names etc. The issue
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Yes, they were incompatible OSes. For example, the memory model used by Win32 was completely different from the Win3.1 memory model. Win32s was an attempt to remap the Win16 based OS into the Win32 design. And it actually worked.
WIn95 is a 32 bits GUI for MS-DOS
That's actually not true. Once Win95 started, DOS was kicked off into oblivion. The reason was that DOS couldn't actually handle protected mode, so once the CPU mode was changed DOS was effectively dead memory.
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Trust me, Sybase sux. I want to move back to sql server.
Our office still codes using ANSI-88 joins. It's sad.
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Sybase supported the "*=" and "=*" on the version I worked on. What version are you on?
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
ANSI-92 is LEFT OUTER JOIN and RIGHT OUTER JOIN
ASE 12.5 does a piss-poor job of it though. It doesn't support two constructs that I use from time to time in some complex queries: FULL OUTER JOIN and CROSS JOIN
FULL OUTER JOIN in ANSI-88 syntax is *=* which ASE 12.5 supports, however it doesn't support the ANSI-92 version, and CROSS JOINS must be implemented using ANSI-88 code. ANSI-92 CROSS JOIN constructs aren't supported.
And before you get into a debate ANSI-88 vs ANSI-92 SQL sta
Re:I used IE for solaris (Score:1)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
I really, *really* hate to support the eeeevil corporation, but we're all geeks, right? And geeks value truth and accuracy. Right?
Microsoft never said that IE couldn't be seperated from windows. They said that windows couldn't be separated from IE. They said that *windows* was dependent on IE, not that IE was dependant on w
Re:Damn April Fools jokes. Not Funny. (Score:2)
Funny you should mention that. It just so happens that COM was a technology originally developed for Unix, but Microsoft purchased the company that developed it and made it into their basis for Windows components.
Well... (Score:2)
Plausible??.. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Plausible??.. (Score:2)
Databases are useful in many situations people don't think about. Saved games, and other things you'd store on your XBox included. Now sure, the version to run on the XBox (if it were true..honestly there probably is one for XBox...there's one for WindowsCE)... wouldn't have use for DTS, Replication, etc....
Re:Well... (Score:1)
Re:Well... (Score:2)
It's not even remotely plausible. MS-SQL is descended from Sybase SQL Server (Now Adaptive Server Enterprise). Since reneging on their contract with Sybase, MS has seriously re-engineered the codebase to optimize it for Windows. IMHO, MS-SQL is so tightly wired in to the Windows internals that it would be impossible to port it to any another OS.
The latest version of Sybase ASE (12.5.3) has back-ported a lot of the Transact-SQL extensions that Microsoft int
Re:Well... (Score:2)
well due (Score:2, Funny)
Isn't that true of most articles this day?
Re:well due (Score:2, Funny)
I dub thee..APRIL STUPID (Score:2)
April Fools all the time (Score:1)
Ms. no way! (Score:1)
Re:Ms. no way! (Score:2)
Re:Ms. no way! (Score:1)
not funny (Score:2, Insightful)
I for one..... (Score:2)
Good News (Score:5, Funny)
Right click (Score:2)
Do the editors really think this is funny? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Do the editors really think this is funny? (Score:2)
Re:Do the editors really think this is funny? (Score:2)
But as I get older, it just bugs me more. You'd think that the editors would have aged a bit as well
Re:Do the editors really think this is funny? (Score:1)
Or it just same shit, different April Fools' Day.
Kierthos
Re:Do the editors really think this is funny? (Score:2)
Very original, but... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Very original, but... (Score:2, Funny)
*duck & cover*
You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:5, Insightful)
If something really newsworthy did happen today. Something excellent and a little bit improbable. Maybe SCO calls it quits, or MS finally publishes their court-ordered complete API documentation.
It would be lost in all this fluff. The joke would be on us.
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:2)
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:1)
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:2)
There hasn't been a dupe yet.
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:2)
They must get loads of email telling them it is really funny that every story on April 1st is fake because the vast majority of comments on
I am sure most would far rather (eventually) enjoy getting fooled by one clever spoof.
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:2)
But, as others have pointed out, a real prank is one that people don't see coming until it's too late - or even later. Blatant and obvious lies have hopefully never fooled anyone here. It's the difference between sarcasm and just being an ass - one has a component of irony, while the other does not. And irony is the whole point of the holiday. Romeo and Juliet is an example of a good April Fool's joke (althou
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:1)
Re:You know what the best April 1st joke would be? (Score:2)
Repost of the first six other stupid April 1st stories.
except that... (Score:2)
Best Alternatives to /. on April 1??? (Score:2)
Re:Best Alternatives to /. on April 1??? (Score:2)
Re:Best Alternatives to /. on April 1??? (Score:1)
I just don't know what to believe anymore (Score:1)
I so confused! my head asplode on 4/1
I look forward to x box SQL ! (Score:2)
Re:I look forward to x box SQL ! (Score:1)
Let's check with this guy (Score:2)
"Vhet keend ooff veepuns dues a Mester Cheff need? Bootcher Kneeffe-a? Ruteesserie-a? Etum bumb? Munduleene-a? Cheeensev Bork Bork Bork"
April Fools Day List o' Pranks (Score:5, Informative)
No need for slashdot to post an item from list once per hour..
XBox for enterprise (Score:1)
It was almost plausible... (Score:2)
The Horse (Score:2)
Re:The Horse (Score:1)
It's only a flesh wound.
It's feeling better now.
Do you have any spare coconuts, sire?
April Fools Joke. Notice To All Slashdotters (Score:5, Insightful)
If you don't like the stories, ignore them and return tomorrow when it's back to normal. Or will you go into withdrawal if you can't read Slashdot for a day?
My $0.02... I have karma to burn.
Re:April Fools Joke. Notice To All Slashdotters (Score:2)
Re:April Fools Joke. Notice To All Slashdotters (Score:2)
But the whole idea of April Fool's jokes is to fool people into believing them...
Re:April Fools Joke. Notice To All Slashdotters (Score:2)
Yes, but tomorrow I won't be at work, and the hours won't seem to creep by so sloooooooowly...
Slashdot is nice because just like a fresh little breeze once an hour, an interesting story can spark the day up and make work seem more enjoyable.
But on Friday for gosh sakes! We really need it! No one wants to work on Friday! And now we can't even fall back upon slashdot.
shudder
UGG!! (Score:1)
Re:UGG!! (Score:2)
One day a year w/o Slashdot... I've gotten used to it. At least the TCP/IP evil bit hasn't shown up today...
disturbance... (Score:5, Funny)
Not funny any more! (Score:2, Informative)
It could be funny or interesting al least, to find a story that is a Real Story... this could be the new way to celebrate April Fool's Day
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME (Score:1)
What's Sad About This? (Score:1)
That in a way, this is what I would expect from Microsoft. To have their dominance challenged, then to react by putting out a product that's almost as good as the challenger. Then to stomp the challenger into the ground with their massive market dominance.
What makes it even sadder?
That this is the only way to get microsoft to put something "new" out (new, of course, being new to Microsoft, and not to the start up company they end up squashing).
Re:What's Sad About This? (Score:1)
Re:What's Sad About This? (Score:2)
SQL Server isn't competing with MySQL. They have no need to. Completely different targets...
All your database are belong to MSFT (Score:1)
Lots of it.
This ain't news.... (Score:1)
-1 Not Funny (Score:1, Insightful)
(Yes, I know sswug is, but it just doesn't carry the same punch.)
I have a cunning plan... (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Insightful)
Product name (Score:2)
Implausible != Funny (Score:3, Insightful)
from the dept. (Score:1)
XBox reference (Score:2)
Maybe a port to OS X instead.
Re:XBox reference (Score:2)
Re:XBox reference (Score:2)
never mind.
Re:XBox reference (Score:2)
Shit, you can run SqlServer on a PocketPC, so why not on an Xbox?
SQL Server on Linux is codenamed Pope Mobile (Score:1)
I figure it has about a 25 percent chance of successful implementation, once they finish the contract with Linus Torvalds, who is insisting on 10
4 years running? (Score:2)
stupid april fools jokes are not funny (Score:2, Insightful)
Today is just one day, but... (Score:5, Funny)
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This is the evil that will come upon us. (Score:2)
I bet you Bill Gates' fortune that Microsoft will deliberately insert all kinds of intermittent bugs into the Linux version of the software so that it will crash ever so often, lose records, and do all kinds of other fun things that will make business managers quite happy. Then, when those happy business managers call Microsoft to find out why the data is getting lost, Microsoft will tell them that the Linux platform contains bugs that cause the data
almost funny.... (Score:2)
and now the truth comes out.... i knew it was too good to be true that the mysql developers were backtracking on ten years of defending their design decisions- now we know that all of this talk about triggers, stored procedures, etc. was just the leadup to an elaborate apri
Hey, wait a minute (Score:2)
Rob
Re:STOP THE INSANITY!!! (Score:1)
You're new here, aren't you???
Re:STOP THE INSANITY!!! (Score:2)
I just posted one, but asked the eds to delay it till tomorrow
Re:The april fools thing is out of hand (Score:2)
Maybe Windows, Solaris, Linux, AIX, FreeBSD and SCO Unix would have been more plausable.