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Best Trek Captain?

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Kirk
  7495 votes / 19%
Picard
  19974 votes / 51%
Sisko
  2165 votes / 5%
Janeway
  1527 votes / 3%
Archer
  1042 votes / 2%
Pike? Why not
  1129 votes / 2%
Log (the one they're always talking to)
  1833 votes / 4%
I have no soul and don't like Trek
  3666 votes / 9%
38831 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
  • Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
  • This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
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Best Trek Captain?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @11:23PM (#41748517)

    Because Shatner.

    • by Kell Bengal (711123) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @05:39AM (#41750153)
      Shatner? I 'ardly knew her!
      • by Cpt_Kirks (37296) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:51AM (#41751375)

        Kirk...was...a CAPTAIN.

        Picard is a Manager.

        • by Z00L00K (682162) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:19AM (#41752653) Homepage

          I agree that Kirk was really defining the image of a captain - creative, dynamic and moody.

          With Picard the situation was different and the manager style was better suited there too when the crew was larger.

          Both TOS and TNG were good and it's hard to compare them head to head. TOS was groundbreaking in many ways, it changed the playing field for Science Fiction on TV and also for other TV shows since they did things that nobody dared to do at the time. TNG was less ground-breaking, but still important since it was promoting the necessity of doing science to get progress.

          Later shows like DS9, Voyager etc. were watered down, and more riding on the legacy. That said I think that the reboot of Star Trek with a young crew looks promising. It has a more modern touch and plays more on the tension between members of the crew than what could be seen in Star Trek since TNG.

          • by lightknight (213164) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:26AM (#41752717) Homepage

            What? DS9 had one of the all-time darkest episodes of the Trek series. Watered down my ass, the characters actually evolved!

            Check for yourself. [youtube.com]

            • by arth1 (260657) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @03:56PM (#41757067) Homepage Journal

              What? DS9 had one of the all-time darkest episodes of the Trek series. Watered down my ass, the characters actually evolved!

              Check for yourself.

              To boldly stay on a space station and reason with other humanoids?

              Voyager, soap operatic as it was, at least had some of the Star Trek spirit. In my view, which obviously differs from yours, DS9 was more of a politically correct copycat version of Babylon 5.

              • by TWX (665546) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @07:48PM (#41759785)
                These are the revolutions of the space station DS9.

                It continuing mission:

                defend boring, poor worlds,

                to try out new defense plans and terrible battle tactics,

                to foolishly stay where no one wanted to stay before...
              • by SQLGuru (980662) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @09:05AM (#41764085) Journal

                I've always felt that the next Star Trek should be Star Trek: Ferengi Trader. The ship would be a merchant ship always looking for a deal (probably even some smuggling). You'd get a lot of the exploration that made TOS and TNG great but would be able to introduce different types of conflict.

              • by fiannaFailMan (702447) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @02:13PM (#41769239) Journal

                "Reason with other humanoids"? I seem to remember plenty of firefights in DS9.

                In fact DS9 is the most underrated of all the treks. Sure the "let the trouble come running to us" thing got a little old in the early series, but once they got their own starship and could move around a little more than in those Transit van-shaped runabouts the problem was solved. The characters in DS9 were complex and intriguing. Even Quark, the Requisite Annoying Character, was interesting and a damn sight more necessary than that Neelix clown. Garack - what was a body supposed to make of him? His banter with Gul Dukat (one of the best developed baddies ever) was legendary. Gimme Sisko's badass attitude over Janeway's sighing and unconvincing attempts to be stern any day. Bashir, the arrogant but likable prick; O'Brien, the down-to-earth family man; Dax, the wise old man in the body of a hot young lady; Kira, the hot redhead who has to work on a daily basis for someone she thinks is a living god; Odo, the jobsworth shape-shifter who turns out to be an outcast from a race that happens to threaten the entire alpha quadrant; General Martok, the venerable Klingon commander who's as aggressive on your side as he is when he's against you.

                What has Voyager got? A boatload of nobodies. Tuvok, a character who proved that Vulcans can be as unlikable as they are boring; Kim, [no description available because he's got no personality]; Paris, supposed to be a hardened ex-con but comes across more like the office slacker; Torres, a missed opportunity to develop what might have been an interesting conflict between her Klingon half and her human half; Chakotay, [no description available because he's got no personality]. As for Kes, the less that's said the better. Her replacement with 7 of 9 was great eye candy and kinda interesting, but that was just about the only interesting character in the show. The fact that things were so bad that they had to resort to the cheap gimmick of shrink-wrapping a hot female body into a skin suit says it all about how desperate they were to attract an audience.

              • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2012 @03:54PM (#41770649)

                Voyager was a Red Dwarf knock off.

                Complete with the hologram and talking cat.

              • Without treking around the universe and exploring, Star Trek isn't nearly as fun. ;-)

            • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @04:01PM (#41757147)

              ds9 was a soap opera

            • by Jerslan (1088525) * on Thursday October 25, 2012 @03:33PM (#41770389)
              Agreed.... Kira was annoying and, at times, completely disrespectful of authority in the beginning, as well as completely opposed to the Federation helping out Bajor. Over time she saw the benefit of working towards joining the Federation. That they really were there to help them and not occupy and strip mine their world like the Cardassian's did for 60+ years immediately prior to the start of the series. She mellowed out and became pretty bad-ass.

              Sisko... The difference between Commander Sisko in the 1st season and Captain Sisko in the last is like the difference between night and day. He starts out broken and kind of lost. He doesn't even know if he wants to stay in Starfleet. Later he kind of finds himself, and slowly grows more and more comfortable with his role as The Emissary in Bajoran Religion. Then there was the Dominion War, which was cool. We knew through TNG and TOS that war still happened (several with the Klingons get mentioned and a couple with the Romulans), so it was interesting to see how the Federation really reacted to it.

              DS9 was darker, but it still held to the "Morality Play" ideal that Roddenberry snuck into many many episodes in TOS and TNG. "In the Hands of the Prophets" was absolutely dripping with Socio-Political commentary that is still incredibly relevant nearly 20 years later.

              Oh, and lets not forget that, while Picard may have always wanted to, only Sisko ever had the guts to actually punch Q in the face. That takes some balls right there.
          • by Comrade Ogilvy (1719488) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:39PM (#41761173)

            I can see why many might prefer Kirk or Picard, but for me Sisko carries both 80% of the passion of a Kirk and 80% of the dignity and cerebralness of Picard. It is a near perfect blend.

            IMNSHO, DS9 has hands down the best overall writing. It is as consistent throughout as TNG in its best years. The main characters are well written and have somewhere to go from the outset. Unlike the TNG, the main characters largely *do not* get along at the beginning, for entirely plausible reasons. The entire first season is about whether this project is simply going to fly apart, and how the characters evolve to see their respective alliances forward.

            The level of drama might not quite rival TOS, but it compares very favorably with TNG or Voyager. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is not watered down in any coherent sense of that term.

            The most watered down was TNG. TNG spent two full seasons struggling to find any sense of fun. Really, they were too ambitious and trying to tackle subtle topics that did not work well in a 1-hour dramatic format. The writers were trying to create drama around lovely people having misunderstandings. I appreciate what they were attempting to accomplish, but it was often not very successful.

            Voyager was a very promising concept that suffered from terribly inconsistent execution. The initial concept was two sets of enemies from the Alpha quadrant thrown together on the other side of the galaxy, with the "normal" rules of how to run a starship open to debate. But they chickened out, time and again, and found comfortable ruts to live in. Furthermore, the writing of Janeway wavered and she lacked a clear moral perspective, which is pretty much unforgivable in my eyes..

        • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @01:21PM (#41754939)

          You clearly have no idea what a captain does. Most of it is managing. You rarely leave the ship - because technically that's the only place you are in command. On the ship you are lord and master of a huge, armed vehicle. Off the ship, you're just a guy with a hand held gun.

          Kirk was an adventurer. He loved flying by the seat of his pants with just a hand weapon.

          Picard was a captain. He liked to command ship's weapons.

  • by Squiddie (1942230) on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @11:25PM (#41748527)
    It's obvious Kirk is the superior one. That's not even up for debate.
    • by WGFCrafty (1062506) on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @11:31PM (#41748551)
      As of now he's got half of Picards vote....
    • by PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @01:42AM (#41749135)

      Yes, but the good half, or the evil half? The transporter split him in into two in one episode. And then a female occupied his body and was captain as well; does that count? Oh, and the evil one from the parallel universe, as well. And wasn't there a robot version of him; made by "Lurch" out of The Adams Family, on a spinning disk? Or when he got 'methed up sniffing bath salts from a flower?

      All those, and I am not even awake yet . . . there have been Many Faces of Kirk . . .

    • by CubicleZombie (2590497) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @07:14AM (#41750607)
      I've always thought Kirk was the best captain. Daring, brave, unconventional, dangerous. Cool. But I'm older now, and looking at the poll options, I was surprised that Picard was easily my first choice. He's wise, thoughtful, ethical, methodical, cultured. Picard has the characteristics that I'd rather be myself, plus he's the one I would rather serve under if I was in Starfleet (I'd be a red-shirt anyways, and that wouldn't end well under Kirk).

      That said, I would have voted for Captain Sulu.
      • by poity (465672) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:51AM (#41751379)

        Picard seemed overqualified for his role. He was more of a peer to the admirals and hardly ever seemed a subordinate. I could imagine him at Starfleet HQ or high up in the diplomatic corps, getting things done left and right instead of going on one mission at a time. He was probably secretly pulling a Riker as well and evaded advancement in order to stay with the ship.

        • by Aryden (1872756) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:12AM (#41752559)
          Kirk did the same thing. He even advised Picard in Generations to not let them promote him. With that said, I choose Picard because he exemplifies the bearing. demeanor and the mentality that I wold want in command.
        • by Daniel_Staal (609844) <DStaal@usa.net> on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:01PM (#41760301)

          Quite possibly - but also note that he was in charge of the Federation's flagship. As such he was effectively in the diplomatic corps, as that is the ship you will send on a diplomatic mission. (It's also a role you might give to an admiral, or an admiral-in-training.)

          Comparing Kirk and Picard is a always a problem. Kirk was an explorer, and a fighter - defending and expanding the Federation's boundaries. Picard was a diplomat and a manager - maintaining the peace within the Federation or with allies. Either would have been horrible at the other's job, but both were good at their role. 'Best' implies one of those roles is more important than the other, and they aren't.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:11AM (#41752535)

        If Earth ever has a "starfleet", every ship captain would WANT to be like Kirk. Daring, brave, unconventional, dangerous, gets all the chicks, beats everything against all odds. But the best captains would be like Picard.

        Kirk was a better character for an action series. Picard was a better image of a real-life captain.

    • by jellomizer (103300) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:58AM (#41751457)

      It depends on the time.

      In Kirk's time, and mission. He had a lot more exploration, of new and dangerous worlds. For that we needed a good tactical captain. In a fight Kirk will always win, he is really good at military tactics. While he is OK with first contact stuff and diplomacy, he really shines after his negotiations breaks down and need to show them how much better he is.

      In Picard's time, and mission. He is flying the Flag Ship his mission while has some exploration it is in areas that have been deemed safe, exploring the gaps in areas that have been explored. However he is in a position where there is a firestorm of pressure to not destabilize the area, so there is far more diplomacy and first contact going on. For the most part it seems whenever the ship was to go into battle Will Riker will somehow be on command and Picard is stuck on an away mission, or abducted. So it is tough to say how good a tactical commander he is.

      So they are perfect captains for their time and mission.

      Now Archer wasn't that good because he really lacked strong battle skills or diplomacy. He seemed to cause more problems then he solved.
      Janeway she was a scientist turned captain, she did a good job pissing off the Delta Quadrant.
      Sisko would have been a better captain if the writers didn't copy Babylon 5 and make him the Jesus for aliens. His tactics seem better for larger scale war. While they said he was more of engineer he didn't show it that much unless he was board. His diplomacy was sloppy too, often causing more problems than solving.

      • by Shakrai (717556) * on Thursday October 25, 2012 @07:11AM (#41762777) Journal

        For the most part it seems whenever the ship was to go into battle Will Riker will somehow be on command and Picard is stuck on an away mission, or abducted.

        My recollection is that Picard was usually in overall command but Riker was oftentimes the one that was responsible for issuing firing orders, course changes, etc. This is actually somewhat realistic for a large warship; the Captain can usually be found in CIC (Combat Information Center) worrying about the "big picture", while the First Officer remains on the bridge and deals with course changes and the like. They don't have a CIC in Star Trek but the overall theory is still valid.

        Read this account [usswashington.com] of the USS Washington at Guadalcanal, when she went toe-to-toe with Japanese warships in a surface action. Here's one of the more interesting tidbits:

        On Washington's bridge, Lieutenant Ray Hunter still had the conn. He had just heard that South Dakota had gone off the air and had seen Walke and Preston "blow sky high." Dead ahead lay their burning wreckage, while hundreds of men were swimming in the water and Japanese ships were racing in.
        Hunter had to do something. The course he took now could decide the war. "Come left," he said, and Washington straightened out on a course parallel to the one on which she was steaming. Washington's rudder change put the burning destroyers between her and the enemy, preventing her from being silhouetted by their fires.

        It wasn't the Task Force Commander (Admiral Lee) or even the Washington's Captain ordering course changes, it was the officer who had the Conn, a "mere" Lieutenant in the position of making life-or-death decisions for a warship with a crew of two thousand men.

        A ship the size of the Enterprise-D, with a crew of over a thousand, would likely operate in a similar manner. Remember, the Enterprise is a ship, not a fighter jet.

  • Captain Zlog (Score:5, Insightful)

    by White Flame (1074973) on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @11:28PM (#41748535)

    Who is this "Log" you speak of? Surely you mean Zlog.

  • Sisko was not a captain since he's not on a ship, he only has 3 dots. Patrick Stewart always projected a strong sense of calm authority, and he ruled the borg for a bit. I always had a problem with the fact that he was French and spoke with an English accent...
  • Obligatory (Score:5, Funny)

    by Ironchew (1069966) on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @11:51PM (#41748649)

    The only question I
    ever thought was hard
    is "Do I like Kirk?
    Or do I like Picard?"

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @12:06AM (#41748713)

    If red-shirt ensigns had their choice, they'd choose Picard. At least, he didn't have every unknown ensign killed on an away mission

    • No they will get killed if they get a name, and perhaps a small backstory.

      Main Character: So Ensign Jones how are your baby twin sons doing.
      Ensign Jones: Oh they are doing great they are just learning to talk and they run to me every time I get back to my quarters.

      A sure sign of Ensign Jones death, the bigger the backstory the more morning from the Main Character over his death.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Since he is responsible for some of the more spectacular scenes in Star Trek.

  • He was an idealist and a pretty strong willed individual who was devoted to his duty and morality. Plus he was the Klingon arbiter and mind melded with Sarek. He had an air of rationality about him which I appeal to. He kept Starfleet in line more than once, which may have been my determining factor. He wasn't afraid to question authority and put everything on the line to stand up for what's right.

    Kirk was more of a loose cannon. Clearly the best strategist and dauntless in the face of danger. It was

  • by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @02:15AM (#41749241)

    But at least Picard had the courage to admit he was bald.

  • C'mon! He gets the job done and the girl at the same time. Picard? He has a cup of tea. Pussy.
  • by SpottedKuh (855161) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @03:08AM (#41749469)

    Fry: Uh, just so we'll know, who's the enemy?

    Brannigan: A valid question! We know nothing about them, their language, their history or what they look like. But we can assume this: they stand for everything we don't stand for. Also they told me you guys look like dorks.

  • Slog (Score:5, Informative)

    by DeBaas (470886) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @04:39AM (#41749901) Homepage

    By the way, it's captain Slog not log...

  • Got my vote when he punched Q anyway...
  • Methinks the results of this poll are saying a lot about the aging demographics of the /. readership.

    I shall return to my cave and slumber now. You have been graabein'ed.

  • Kirk, but... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by multimediavt (965608) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:07AM (#41750959)
    I voted for Kirk, because his character set the example that all the others followed. Now, if you had asked which actor who played a Trek captain was best, that would be Patrick Stewart.
  • by Sponge Bath (413667) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:08AM (#41750967)

    Every club in the golf bag has its purpose. Kirk was a tool for comedy. Each episode was like watching Mad Men with the alpha males drinking and womanizing. When Kirk was on the bridge and told Yoeman Rand to get him a cup of coffee, I expected him to slap her on the ass and add "honey".

  • by Rob the Bold (788862) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:40AM (#41751257)

    (With links, because there are a lot of humorless /.ers (and some really young ones, too), and some have mod points.)

    "Get a life!" [dailymotion.com]

    or "Get a life!" [amazon.com]

    or "Get a life!" [imdb.com]

    But to answer the poll question: M5 [memory-alpha.org].

  • Missing option (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Alter_3d (948458) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:42AM (#41752089)
    Cmdr. Peter Quincy Taggart !!!
  • Janeway (Score:4, Insightful)

    by McGruber (1417641) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:24AM (#41753473)
    Because her crew wiped out the Borg.

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