Who is Using Tomcat or Jetty in Production?

JettyCatReady queries: "Ok, my company (a rather large, global financial institution) has recently blessed Linux for production use (woohoo!). Their position is that it will save them hardware costs to run on Intel machines instead of big IBM or Sun iron. No mention at all has been made of their position on open source. I'm part of a team that wants to make the case that the real savings are to be made by making use of things like Tomcat in place of BEA where we can (if all we want is JSP why pay a huge cost per server?). I even have a boss's boss who said in front of me, 'So I'm thinking, am I missing something by not using Tomcat? Do I have anything to lose?'"

"These are all excellent signs. The next step is to get an open source server into production. Tomcat is the natural choice because it's got the name recognition among Java app servers. Here's where I'm a little stumped. Whenever I mention the words 'Tomcat' and 'production' together, performance junkies come out of the woodwork and tell me that Tomcat sucks for production (what with it being a reference implementation and not optimized for speed). They say use Jetty (except for the ones that say to use Resin). The counter argument is that if my managers have heard of Tomcat, and seen vendors that will support Tomcat, and have never heard of Jetty, then there's no way they're going to bless it over Tomcat. (The same boss who praised Tomcat above also made a face when I mentioned JBoss. And I'm sure it has nothing to do with his personal experience with either.)

My question is, does anybody have some real world numbers of large institutions actually using these servers in a production environment? If somebody can tell me 'Company X uses Tomcat exclusively' then we would have no problem contacting company X and saying, 'So, what have your experiences been?' In other words I need leads, not actual white papers (although those would be nice, too). I need some real experiences, not just people who like Jetty over Tomcat because they don't like Sun."

Navy

[jonasson]

I've heard good things that the Navy has been using Tomcats in production use for quite a while now. They even made a movie [imdb.com] about it.

Re:BEA is buggy as hell anyhow.....

[codingOgre]

Ahh, so you guys are the ones that BEA talks about that have the "Godzilla Bean". Yes coroner, I did put 300 methods in my Godzilla bean, is this the cause of death?

.NET is the only way to go

[cmdr_beeftaco]

haha your blood pressure doubled and pulse rate jumped 15 points, call it your exercise for the day.

Re:How I introduced free software into my big comp

[Anonymous Coward]

Sweet baby Jesus on rye! $500 for a 3270 terminal emulator? Instead of convincing your bosses to buy shareware software, here's what you really should have done:

1. Leave company
2. Sell previous employer robust telnet clients (ahem repackaged standard BSD telnet) $2000 a pop.
3. Profit!