Mono & SourceGear Move Forward

miguel writes "The Mono project keeps evolving and is quickly becoming a mature platform for running .NET applications on Linux. SourceGear and Ximian have entered into a partnership to make their .NET-based Vault client software available to Linux and Unix users by implementing the missing web services support in Mono. The formal announcement is here and a developer overview is here. OpenLink has also contributed the functionality to turn Wine into a library that Mono is using to implement the System.Windows.Forms namespace. Another recent progress bit is the fact that Mono can run Eclipse with the IKVM Java VM for .NET"

Re:What do you think they will do?

[Miguel de Icaza]

"If it's been released as part of the GPL"

Ximian has changed the license for a key part of Mono from the GPL to a license that permits the software to be used in closed-source projects.

The change was made to accommodate Intel, which wanted to contribute to class library work but chafed at the GPL's requirement that software remain open-source only. That provision of the GPL helps ensure that the work of open-source programmers--often volunteers--isn't appropriated for others' gain. Companies that want to adopt the software don't always want to reveal all their software secrets.

We're partnering with Intel and Hewlett-Packard to develop those pieces. One of the concessions we had to make was to switch from one open-source license to another

Intel has a .Net research lab, but part of its requirement is that software produced may be used in proprietary projects as well as open-source projects

Open-source software has been a rallying cry for programmers who wished to undermine Microsoft's power, but with the tightened economy the near-religious fervor for the open-source movement has given way to a more pragmatic view among businesses.

Microsoft has issued legal warnings about the GPL but is more favorably disposed toward this license.

Among programmers writing the class library, about 80 percent said they liked the new license better. However, this opinion wasn't shared by Richard Stallman, a founding father of what has become the open-source movement and the creator and tireless advocate of the GPL.

RMS doesn't like the license switch. It allows proprietary companies to benefit from the software

more here:
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-823734.html

Re:This Mono thing is for clever people...

[Miguel de Icaza]

What this shows is two things: the maturity of the IKVM JITer and the maturity of the Mono runtime as it is able to host this technologically advanced VM to run a large and complex application.

IKVM also helps bridge the two worlds: Java and CIL. Your Java code can then be loaded and used by CIL applications (C#, VB, etc) all running together.

personally i don't rate Eclipse much as a development environment compared to Visual Studio.NET. But i am a big fan of the Standard Widget Toolkit (SWT)

MODERATORS BEWARE

[The Bungi]

This guy is a troll. This [slashdot.org] is the real Miguel de Icaza. Simply look at the troll's posting history [slashdot.org] as well as his journal entries and make up your mind.

WINE is unnecessary

[GCP]

Only client-side GUI apps that use WinForms need WINE. All other .Net apps -- including ASP.Net, non-GUI apps, Web services, apps that use browsers for their UI, client-side GUI apps using GTK, etc. -- will run without WINE.