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Sun Opens Java.net 37

Posted by michael from the cup-o-joe dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Sun just opened two new Java sites, java.com and java.net. java.com seems to be some marketing fluff. java.net, however, seems to be aimed at open source java programmers and is run by O'Reilly. It's got wikis, blogs, and hosts a lot of projects, including the new java gaming projects. Worth a look."
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Sun Opens Java.net

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  • oxymoron (Score:5, Funny)

    by L. VeGas ( 580015 ) on Friday June 13, 2003 @10:18AM (#6190516) Homepage Journal
    java.net
  • I've seen this posted on /. fifty times before. Every time the author leaves out the http:// in the anchor tag, everyone jumps on them. I never thought anything of it (since I had been using Mozilla, and IE before that). But I just got a Mac. I'm browsin in Safari, which chokes on the two links in the article above. So now for the totaly off topic question: are Mozilla and IE interpereting the url wrong, or is Safari?
    • my mozilla want to go to http://slashdot.org/java.com and http://slashdot.org/java.net

      if it doesn't start with a protocol:// it's not considered to be a full URL by the browser.
    • Mozilla is wrong. http://www.slashdot.org/java.net is a valid url. Why should the browser second guess the author? In order to browse to to that url from a link on http://www.slashdot.org/, it would have to be fully qualified.

      *Wrong!*
    • If there's no http://, it must be interpreted as a relative link. Mozilla 1.2.1 correctly does this, and apparently so does safari.
    • Seems to work from the article (with Mozilla) but from the frontpage it gave me 404 for http://slashdot.org/java.net

      Can't http:// be forced in slashcode ?

    • Mozilla, IE, and Safari all interpret the link correctly - as a relative link.

      <a href="java.net"> is a relative link
      <a href="http://java.net"> is an absolute link
    • As others have said before, the URL should have been interpreted as a relative URL, and yes, your browser should have choked on it.

      Some browsers simply do a better job than others when it comes to sticking to W3C HTTP standards [w3.org]. ;)

  • Working links (Score:1, Redundant)

    by ArmorFiend ( 151674 )
    I am such a filthy hoar:
    java.com [java.com] and java.net [java.net]
  • Before Slashdot gets slashdotted....

  • Wonder what took them to epoch (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mnmn ( 145599 ) on Friday June 13, 2003 @10:35AM (#6190639) Homepage
    ... to provide community sites for java? And java.net sounds like java.NET. I think there should be a seperate community site for J2EE systems with a code repository, forums and recommendations, or am I ignorant of such a site?
  • If you read his introduction to the site [java.net], he has a lot to say about creating a creative virtual community. The only problem is its jav-o-centric. (/me makes puking noises).

    To some extent sourceforge, freshmeat, and CPAN provide this for the Free Software movement. But java.net seems more comprehensive in a way. We should rip it off. :)

    • Re:The Java.net creator is on to something (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DeadSea ( 69598 ) * on Friday June 13, 2003 @10:52AM (#6190767) Homepage Journal
      Java could really benifit from something along the lines of what CPAN has done for Perl. There is a heck of a lot of Java software out there, but I know of no central repository from which you can download, compile, and test, in a standard way.

      The CPAN commmunity makes all this happen. If you have never used it, it is quite slick. The process goes something like this:
      # install somenew:package
      downloading |----------------100%|
      compiling |----------------100%|
      testing |--------------OK|

      The Giant Java Tree [gjt.org] is a nice collection of Java software, but it doesn't have the automatic downloads or tests. It also isn't as comprehensive as CPAN, but that is mostly because of the mountains of Java software available.

      • >>> Java could really benifit from something along the lines of what CPAN has done for Perl

        http://www.jpackage.org/

        Not really the CJAN that we want, but it's a nice repository of Java software prepackaged in RPM.

        It's not cross-platform, it's not a real standard for Java software/component distribution, but it's the best you got on Linux right now. :)

      • And that would be awesome for those of us who don't have a CS degree or an employer who'll shell out for training, yet still want to learn Java. I've learned a lot of Perl by not just using what's on CPAN, but by looking at the source and understanding why things work. Admittedly, it is nice to have a zillion ready-to-use modules to plug into your code, but there's a very substantial benefit to having the ability to see what others are doing.

        It's obvious that there are many, many Java classes available f
    • Well, all I can say is, if Venice [sf.net] weren't already well established on SourceForge, I'd probably put it on Java.net. And it's comforting to know I now have a backup option if VA suddenly goes belly-up and SF disappears. (Not that I think that's gonna happen or anything, but sometimes you never know which way the frog's gonna jump.)
      • I wonder a lot about sf.net. Unfortunately I get most of my news from slashdot. The last thing they said, about a year ago, was something to the effect of:
        (paraphrase)

        VA Software is hemmoraging money like nobody's business, laying off everyone, and switching to closed source throughout.

        Usually this is closely followed by corporate death. But slashdot is still here. Hm.
        • Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there either. Seems to me, most investors would be looking at VA by now like Toad looking at Storm and saying, "Don't you people ever die?" (Yes, I watched X-Men again when it was on cable tonight...)

          They're still losing money, but not as fast as they used to. And their stock price has taken an uptick recently, on that leaked M$ memo where Ballmer described Linux as their greatest challenge. Their business right now is basically SourceForge, so SF.net is probably fair

  • Christina (Score:2, Interesting)

    by bryonC ( 681235 )
    Does anyone else find it strage that Christina Aguilera is a spokesperson for java? http://java.com/en/explore/mobile/christina.jsp [java.com]
    • Not a spokesperson, just another (vaguely Java related) product.

      Man, anyone who subscribes to this service really needs to get a life. One of their own, not Christina's.
    • Yea they should have had James Gosling sitting at a keyboard with his belly showing.

  • Blogs, eh? (Score:5, Funny)

    by jolshefsky ( 560014 ) on Friday June 13, 2003 @12:50PM (#6191950) Homepage
    ... if she really likes me at all for being able to explain why all the functions should be arranged alphabetically. thankfully my antidepressants have kept me from killing myself.

    June 12

    aagh! i'm in bag hell. why won't my ui look like i want? bags in grids in flows ... i sound like dr. sues. roflmao. lol.

    i was feeling good so i stopped taking my anti-depressants today.

    June 13

    i tried to touch my mouse but i think it hates me. i've been listening to the same depeche mode song over and over today.

    i hate swing. i decided to just make one big flow and let all the buttons go where they want. it'll make a sh!tty calculator but who cares. does anyone care?

    June 14

    i woke up this morning finally manic. i got a grid layout for the number buttons and flowed the function buttons. it looks awesome!!!!!!! the support code is rock solid and i got junit installed and made 175 test cases. woo hoo!

    my mom called and i talked to her while i called. she said i shouldn't have stopped taking my antidepressants. i told her i was on the cordless so i could be outside to finish my painting and i brought the laptop to the porch so i could code more test cases while i was on the phone.

    ...

  • By all accounts Java.net is more a (Tim) O'Rielly creation (than a Sun creation). A bunch of O'Rielly editors ganging up and creating a community site. More power to them.

    Anyone know why the java.net project hosting doesn't include JSP and EJB services? Surely any decent OpenSource Java project would want to use those technologies to create their web presence...

  • Java.net has another cool feature: it's an eye test! I had to hit control+ several times in mozilla-1.4/redhat-9 to get a font I could read.

    Or maybe looking at the Java.com pictures of Christina Aguilera (a well-known java coder) has wrecked my eyes.

  • At the risk of sounding a bit trollish, java.net is certainly a step in the right direction for Java as a whole. My first impression of it is pretty good, and the concept of a meeting and sharing place for people interested in and/or developing in Java is a great idea. I can't wait to see how java.net turns out in the future. Hopefully this is a sign that Sun is turning Java into a more and more open standard as time progresses.
  • I'm happy they created those sites. Java could use some marketing IMO.

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