Beyond An Open Source Java

Karma Sucks writes "LinuxToday is featuring a intriguing article on why Sun should open source Java, as a stronger followup to the recent ESR saga that was reported here. The writer notes: 'Sun needs to do some radical things to improve its chances of survival, and all of them involve Open Source in some form or the other.' One thing the article fails to mention is the threat of Mono, which should be of special interest to Sun, with its vested interest in GNOME."

hmm...

[Pun Troll]

I guess you could say they're "sunning" (shunning!) Open Source!

Re:Java, who needs it?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yah know, just saying "This is not to be a troll" doesn't make it true

Re:Java, who needs it?

[iminplaya]

...but the code should still run without an interpreter/virtual machine/emulator.

I'll be impressed if they can make it run without a computer.

Maybe...

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe it's because Python breaks compatibility at every major release, is freakishly huge with more add-ons than Mr. Potato Head, has syntax that would drive Intercal users insane, and has documentation that's harder to find than Waldo?

As for PERL, it's got more dollar signs, at signs, and hashes than TV-edited captions on Scarface and it's so cryptic that several small governments have considered "encrypting" messages into obfuscated PERL for protection. Besides, even the PERL authors admit that other tools are often needed when creating applications, that's why "there's more than one way to do it."

Re:What about IBM Clones? That was successful...

[SpyPlane]

Uh... IBM won?? Am I the only one still using a Commodore Amiga??

Ah well, back to playing Marble Madness...

Where's the +5, Anecdotal Evidence?

[Anonymous Coward]

Really need that right about now...

Mono is a threat

[Anonymous Coward]

My roommate just got mono and trust me, you want to avoid it at all costs. You're sick and tired and it lasts for weeks.

Shit happens, but it doesn't run

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, but I find I can't get shit to run no matter how it's compiled.

Why is Mono a "threat"?

[fitten]

Why is Mono a "threat"? Is it not possible for both to exist? Perl and bsh both exist on my machine and it doesn't explode even though they overlap in functionality.

mono IS a threat...

[what the dumple is]

According to popular legend, once all of Issaquah high school came down with mono.

I've never had mono, but it sounds like a shitty way to spend a month.

Re:Java's fine

[Trejkaz]

Yeah, probably three out of the total five programming jobs are Java. *sizzle*

So Sun should....

[Anonymous Coward]

Open Source Java,
Use Linux instead of Solaris,
Move from UltraSparc to AMD64...

Hmmm, seems like a great business plan.

A Tale Of Two Javas

[TrancePhreak]

A long time ago there was the MS Java JIT. It loaded up and ran Java applets and played nicely with others. The web was browseable and never caused the evil BSOD to appear. However, the father who never liked this child wanted to push their own JIT upon the people. It was known as the Sun JRE. It didn't like Windows, and often crashed it out of hatred. A great many web pages were blockaded by the JRE. It brought the terrible BSOD any time it could.

To be continued....

Re:That would suck for java...

[Bingo Foo]

Incompatibility would run rampant. My java apps barely work for my phone as it is.

Yeah, no kidding. My refrigerator has JVM 1.1, but my oven runs J2EE 1.4. Just try storing leftovers with that kind of arrangement!