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GTK 2.4.0 Released 303

d3vi1 writes "Pango, Glib & GTK 2.4.0 have been released to the public. See gtk.org in general, or specifically: the announcements for pango, glib and gtk."
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GTK 2.4.0 Released

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  • How long? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by rwiedower ( 572254 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:10PM (#8583632) Homepage
    Until this makes it into the win32 version of the GIMP? Or will this make any difference?
  • Just in time for... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bonch ( 38532 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:11PM (#8583653)
    ...Gnome 2.6, due out March 22nd [gnome.org].
  • file selector (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pyros ( 61399 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:15PM (#8583694) Journal
    They have been using the new file selector in the Fedora Core 2 test1 [kernel.org] release, which was supposed to freeze today for the test2 release. Very nice. Hopefully this means GNOME 2.6 will stabilize and be release in time to include them both in Fedora Core 2 [redhat.com].
  • by Abcd1234 ( 188840 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:20PM (#8583745) Homepage
    Yeah, it's called turning on the feature in your panel that collects all the window buttons for a given app into a single button with a menu. Now quit trolling and move on. This issue has been beaten to death over and over and over and...
  • Re:So.. (Score:0, Interesting)

    by epiphani ( 254981 ) <epiphani@@@dal...net> on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:25PM (#8583801)
    I *pray* they didnt break anything big again. 2.1 was hell, 2.2 wasnt bad, 2.3 was annoying.

    [karma burn]

    What exactly was wrong with libc5 that glib had to come along and fark up things anyway?

    [/karma burn]
  • Glade2 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by RichiP ( 18379 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:38PM (#8583910) Homepage
    From the Gtk2 Release announcement:

    GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and Python (especially in combination with the
    Glade GUI builder) provides an effective method of rapid application development.


    How is Glade2 development coming along in terms of supporting Gtk2 2.4? I visited their website [gnome.org] and there doesn't seem to be any mention of it.
  • Re:So.. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:40PM (#8583922)
    me too. i had to make two separate sets of entries in XF86Config... one set to use my tablet as a mouse, the others to use it as a tablet in gimp. but once that configuration hell was over, it's only locked up once in many months. of course it shouldn't freeze at all :)
  • Re:New File Dialog (Score:3, Interesting)

    by macshit ( 157376 ) <snogglethorpe@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @07:45PM (#8583970) Homepage
    My god.

    Please tell me that isn't really the `new file selector'.

    The old selector was pretty basic, but also pretty straight-forward, and super-fast to use with the keyboard because of the great completion functionality.

    This new dialog is not only much more confusing looking, but seems bloated, rather ugly, and doesn't have the text entry box -- i.e, they removed the one great feature they used to have!

    I know they're attempting to appeal to inexperienced users, but they always seem to (1) do so in a way that pisses off experienced users, and (2) botch things up in the inexperienced-user case anyway.

    Hopefully someone will come up with a less crappy file-selector and all the major distros (at least debian) will use it.
  • Re:New File Dialog (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Coryoth ( 254751 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @08:12PM (#8584218) Homepage Journal
    Hmmm, comparing KDE [kde.org] with GTK [gnome.org] I would have to say mostly it follows the usual difference between GNOME and KDE that has been apparent in the last year or two: GNOME has focussed on a slimmed down, simplified model with emphasis on clean and simple, while KDE has focussed on providing options.

    To be honest, however, from what I've gathered the GNOME people have been far more influenced by Apple than KDE.

    And finally - when you come down to it, it's a file selector, there;s not a whole lot innovative you can do with it. The KDE file selector doesn't look overly different from the Windows one, so really, is it any surprise that GNOME follows a vaguely similar line?

    Jedidiah.

  • Re:How long? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @08:20PM (#8584285)
    I wouldn't expect it to make much difference the GIMP developers are pretty careful about what features they use and I'm pretty sure the Linux version doesn't even depend on GTK2.2 yet
  • Re:How long? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by grilo ( 694373 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @08:43PM (#8584450)
    To be honest, I believe GTK will start get much better within the win32 platform. The gnumeric guys are trying to port the spreadsheet, and they'll probably give a push to GTK developers.
  • by jonadab ( 583620 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @08:52PM (#8584511) Homepage Journal
    > The real question is: why are the standard window managers for GNOME and
    > KDE (metacity and kwin) not implementing something like this

    Not sure about kwin, but the official metacity project slogan is "no features"
    (apparently). A lot of Gnome users swap it out for a different window manager
    such as sawfish or Enlightenment. Fortunately, the architecture of Gnome makes
    this possible (though the wm in question has to support certain Gnome things
    to get everything working properly (e.g., the panel task list, having certain
    panels be avoided by maximize, and so on), which does limit exactly which
    window managers you can choose; you can _theoretically_ choose any wm, but
    if you choose one that doesn't support Gnome stuff won't work; sawfish and
    Enlightenment are the major alternatives that handle Gnome stuff right, that
    I know about; there may be one or two others).
  • Re:New File Dialog (Score:3, Interesting)

    by prockcore ( 543967 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @08:58PM (#8584565)
    libgnomeui now provides a gnome-vfs backend for GtkFileChooser so that it has the same view of remote filesystems as applications such Nautilus

    That rules, and it's about time. This means you can say file open, and then select a smb:// share

    A while ago I was working on a gnome-vfs module that added support for itunes shares. This would mean that you could use xmms (assuming it ever gets updated for 2.0) and browse and play songs shared in itunes.

    Now I think I've got some incentive to finish that module.
  • by Great_Jehovah ( 3984 ) * on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @09:14PM (#8584695)
    Sorry, Linux desktops still have godawful, retina-burning, headache-inducing font-rendering, even with all options on.

    Compared to what? TT Text fonts with Xft are certainly much easier on the eyes under linux/gtk/x11/gnome than they are under Windows XP.

  • Your sig (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mrogers ( 85392 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2004 @09:27PM (#8584784)
    I thought the same thing about Linux font rendering until I installed Microsoft's core fonts and a TrueType font server on my Linux box (apt-get install msttcorefonts xfstt right now if you're running Debian). The font rendering in Linux is absolutely fine, it's just the shortage of good manually-hinted fonts that makes things look awful. Anti-aliasing is not the solution - GTK+1.2 looks better than GTK+2 with decent fonts installed, because the fonts have nice sharp outlines.

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