Oracle and Sun Team Up to Provide .NET Alternative

segphault writes "Ars Technica has an article about the new partnership between Sun and Oracle, designed to provide an alternative to .NET." From the article: "According to Ellison and McNealy, their mutual goal is the production of a complete Java-centric enterprise datacenter architecture that leverages Solaris 10 and Oracle's Fusion middleware. Designed specifically as an alternative to Microsoft's .NET technology stack, the new platform is competitively priced and based on robust frameworks."

Pricing...

[Anonymous Coward]

"the new platform is competitively priced"

What!? I remember when Oracle and Sun charging was based on how much money fell out your pockets when they turned you upside down and shook you.

Seriously though, an alternative is nice, but isn't that alternative already here and called Java? I suppose a nice end-to-end branding a-la .NET wouldn't go amiss, but what's the point? Sufficient technologies already exist out there to do what they're trumpeting as new...

That's funny...

[ltwally]

"...the new partnership between Sun and Oracle, designed to provide an alternative to .NET. ... Designed specifically as an alternative to Microsoft's .NET technology stack..."

That's kinda funny, 'cause here I was thinking that .NET (which is only a couple of years old) was the alternative to Java (which is 10+ years old).

Re:imitation...

[nacturation]

Rather than teaming with Larry Elliscum, a better move for Sun would be to open Java up to the ECMA/ISO for standardization.

I'm sure that's on ISO's to-do list, but they're waiting to receive the standards documentation for PHP. :p
 

No thanks

[Anonymous Coward]

So I'm supposed to trade a solution written by a company with a maniacal leader for a solution written by TWO companies with maniacal leaders? No thanks.

.NET in the data-centre....

[MosesJones]

So the world's largest database vendor is paring up with the world's largest big server provider as competition to Windows and .NET?

Sounds like Microsoft joining up with Dell to compete with Apple on the desktop.

read my mind

[bcrowell]

Y'know, I was just saying to myself, "Self," I said to myself, "you really need an enterprise datacenter architecture that leverages middleware based on robust frameworks." Wow, they must have been reading my mind!

Dot Java Programmers Wanted!

[Anonymous Coward]

Requirements
Qualifications:

5+ years Java, J2EE
4+ years Microsoft Dot Net
4+ years Sun Dot Java
3+ Internet Explorer Programming

** Attention to detail
** Likes to work on mulitple projects simultaneously
** Excellent communication skills (written, verbal and other)
** Must be able to work 50+ hours per week
** Up to 90% travel
** No benefits!

Mainframe technologies move to the PC.

[CyricZ]

Come off it, look at the core .Net technologies (before they were re-branded): COM (implementing the multiple interfaces per object idea without multiple inheritance) predates Java, ODBC predates JDBC etc. etc.

And those familiar with 1970s mainframe or minicomputer technology would know of such concepts by different names.

Look at almost any VMS on VAX installation. You'll see interoperability between languages (BLISS, C, COBOL, FORTRAN, PL/1, plus many others) that worked quite well. Frederik Data Products offered a Smalltalk system in the mid 1980s that embodied many of the OO related traits of COM.

Not only that, but products like the DEC MDP database system offered the core concepts and benefits of ODBC far before ODBC did!

Not surprisingly, much leading edge technology was developed in the mainframe/minicomputer world. It was only later that it found its way onto lower-end servers, workstations and desktops.