IE7 Compatibility a Developer Nightmare

yavori writes "Internet Explorer 7 has kicked in at last on all MS Windows OS running PCs because of the fact M$ decided to force it's users to migrate through update. In fact this has started a IE7 Web Developers Nightmare. The article actually explains that most of the small company B2C sites may just fall from grace because of IE7 incompatibility. One of the coolest thing IE7 is unable to do is actually processing form data when clicked on an INPUT field of TYPE IMG... which is pretty uncool for those using entire payment processes with such INPUT fields."

Re:Vague FUD

[dosius]

I look forward to the day when links is the standard and the browser everyone targets. I use Firefox but I don't think anyone should be forced to use ANY particular browser - if it runs on Links it'll prolly run on just about anything.

-uso.

Breaking news...

[enharmonix]

With easily 50% of the replies to this story in favor of Microsoft and their standards compliance (never thought I'd say that), I feel it's safe to announce that Hell has, in fact, frozen over.

Re:Microsoft does suck

[Afrosheen]

"And let's not even get into how bad your site will look ...for the blind.)"

  I'm guessing it'll look like a series of dots. ;)

Brick And Mortar

[nick_davison]

Our brick and mortar business went through exactly the same thing. Henry bloody Ford and his evil empire released their latest and greatest product on consumers and it really screwed us businesses that had hitching posts and stables.

One of the worst things about "Model T" was that it belched out carbon monoxide. Seriously! Compare this to a horse where the worst you have to worry about is methane! For brick and mortar store owners who didn't want to pay once again to upgrade from barns for their customers, this caused all kinds of ventilation issues. People could actually die from this stuff!

Some people say that keeping up with the times is part of the cost of doing business. But where will it end?!

Re:Bah

[mtenhagen]

This article has almost no information and it seems the only reason it was posted here is to stir up anti-Microsoft antagonism.

You must be new here.

Re:Mod up!!

[Millenniumman]

Replacing the G in GNU with a hammer and sickle or peace sign would seem fair as a rebuttal to "M$", but /. doesn't support the character.

English Translation

[cgenman]

For those of you who don't like babel fish:

Because M$ decided on a forced upgrade migration path, Internet Explorer 7 has finally kicked in on all of their MS Windows OS running PCs. In theory, there isn't much wrong with this, but IE7 has failed to comply with many fo the standards it was supposed to.

IE7 is a nightmare of crossbrower compatibility. I recently needed to rewrite a web site so that it works on firefox... and surprisingly enough, when testing the new and the old site on IE7 I discovered that many elements do not function as expected. And "not function as expected" doesn't really cover it, it was more a question of not working at all.

I found some pretty large incompatibilities in their JavaScript submission systems. While I can understand the behavior migration, some functions did not pass parameters correctly etc.. The worst thing was that they disabled submitting data through "input type img" (which in this case was the entire sites data)... I don't blame the programmers for setting things up this way, but I do blame IE for not keeping with standards again.

So with IE7 we come to a new era of "web developers nightmare." It will cause many smaller websites to need to be rewritten, and therefore will crush some of the associated small companies' business.

And a final tip from me! Try to avoid writing JavaScript without testing it 100% on all of the major web browsers: FireFox, IE7, Opera and Safari.

Just a clue:
According to W3C, the web browser market share of IE7 for the previous month is: 7.1%
and for IE6 is: 49.9%

So with a bit of analyzing as well as some math we can say that IE7 will show a market share of about 60%... which isn't the best picture for us, the developers.

And for those that do like babelfish... English via Italian.

The Internet Explorer 7 has given of soccer to within in end on all the OS of MS Windows that ago to work the PC because of determined the M$ fact in order to force it is customers to migrare through the modernization. The sink really is not much evil with the this here but IE7 has been supposed to more join the champions who what in effects is not to align. IE7 is a cavalla of night for the greater part of the sviluppatori that try to join to the champions for crossbrowsing. Recently I have had to rewrite a Web site so as to it works to firefox equally... and the surprise element was that when examines the new and old place on IE7 I have uncovered that many things does not work as previewed and "the function poichè previewed" it is not the just word for it, it was more one issue than operation at all. I have found that submiting with the Javascript it has some graceful things of uncool that incolpo of the IE but some functions really did not work when no-go gage all the parameters and therefore via. And the GREATER PART of the thing of the assassin was the incapacity of the IE in order to introduce the data through "the type img of the input" that really it was the entire data of the places... Really not incolpo of the programmatori that have made it therefore but of the IE not to still maintain with the champions. Therefore really with IE7 we come to one new was "of the incubus of the sviluppatori of fotoricettore" poichè will demand the EVIL and perhaps DEFECTIVE places therefore of fotoricettore will not be rewritten and this with crushing some of the commerce of the small enterprises. And a final TIP from me! Tests to avoid the Javascript of writing without to verify it 100% on all the browsers used main of fotoricettore like FireFox, IE7, the work and the safari. As soon as for having an indication: According to W3C the percentage of the market of web browser of IE7 for the previous month is: 7.1% and for IE6 are: 49.9% Therefore with a little analyzing to the situation and the facts therefore as to make a sure one for the mathematics we can say that IE7 will show a percentage of the market of approximately 60% according to W3C... which is not the better image for we the devs.

Re:Mod up!!

[DavidD_CA]

Replacing the G in GNU with a hammer and sickle or peace sign would seem fair as a rebuttal to "M$", but /. doesn't support the character.

In Soviet Russia, communist icon supports YOU.

Re:10 LET M$ = "Microsoft"

[Anonymous Coward]

Then you are very likely the only person in the entire multiverse who takes this view.

BASIC vs. Lisp

[tepples]

Replacing the G in GNU with a hammer and sickle or peace sign would seem fair as a rebuttal to "M$", but /. doesn't support the character.

Microsoft's first major product was a BASIC interpreter, where a postfix $ designated a string variable. FSF's first major product under its GNU label was a text editor that included a Lisp interpreter, where every subexpression needs a pair of parentheses. Thus, your insult might be (f (s (f))) or (g (n (u))).

Re:Vague FUD

[enharmonix]

Make that "Lynx" ..... (www.lynx.org) which is a 'command line only' browser.

No, I think he meant Links [sourceforge.net], which is a more advanced text based browser.

Okay, you two better cut it out. This is at least the third time I've heard this exact conversation now, be careful you don't start some kind of weird new meme. These things can catch on and refuse to die. You know, "In Soviet Russia, GNAA pours hot grits down our naked and petrified overlord's pants..." Just be careful, please.

Re:Vague FUD

[ozbird]

But the rest of the article seems to be vague hand-wavy FUD and anecdotal complaints.

*waves hand* This is not the browser you're looking for.
*waves hand* You should use Firefox for your business.

Re:I got your Lynx right here...

[Yvan256]

I think he meant Link [geocities.com].

Back in my day...

[Kelson]

Hey, that's nothing. In my day, I had to walk 14 miles through the snow, uphill, just to get to Slashdot. It's actually easier to get to now that it's gone downhill!

Re:BASIC vs. Lisp

[Xeth]

Thus, your insult might be (f (s (f))) or (g (n (u)))

Don't you mean (or (f (s (f))) (g (n (u))))?

Re:unprofessional

[ednopantz]

I *love* the M$ moniker! Without reading the submission, I know immediately that the author is an idiot. It saves a bunch of time.

offtopic, but funny

[Original Replica]

including my sister, whose work recently won awards for degrading nicely.

Does she know you're telling people this?

Re:Just in case it *is* broken

[mackyrae]

Code without hacks. I never used a hack, yet my sites always turned out how I wanted them.

Re:Just in case it *is* broken

[Schraegstrichpunkt]

by mackyrae (999347) Alter Relationship on Sunday January 07, @09:07PM (#17503698)
(http://www.myspace.com/maco)

Code without hacks. I never used a hack, yet my sites always turned out how I wanted them.

(Emphasis mine)

Re:Vague FUD

[shellbeach]

Yup, and if we're going to mention 2 text-mode browsers, I feel obliged to name-drop my favourite - w3m. Particularly fun when run in an Xterm or similar...

w3m, lynx, links? They're just toys. You want real text-mode compatibility, you telnet to port 80 of the server ...