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Sun Offering Optimized AMP Stack On Solaris 135

tbray writes "This is your friendly local Sun corporate drone reporting that we're going to be building and optimizing and DTrace-ing and shipping and supporting the AMP part of LAMP (details here). I think that basically the whole tech industry, excepting Microsoft, is now at least partly in the AMP camp."
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Sun Offering Optimized AMP Stack On Solaris

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  • Re:The "AMP Camp"??? (Score:4, Informative)

    by CodeShark ( 17400 ) <ellsworthpc@yah[ ]com ['oo.' in gap]> on Tuesday February 13, 2007 @04:51PM (#18002786) Homepage
    Ummm, no.... A perfectly tuned, very very expensive MS stack blows the doors off the average LAMP stack.


    But spend the same amount of money on the LAMP stacks, and you get can high availability plus database replication, load balanced multiple application servers, plus the bandwidth, and probably most of the programming expense, pepsi and pizza a team could could consume -- per year.


    Seems to me that ASP and Java are the tired stacks. Not LAMP & Ruby.

  • Re:Yawn.... (Score:3, Informative)

    by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2007 @04:55PM (#18002844) Homepage

    Seriously....since I don't really want to use Sun hardware or Solaris, tell me again, why would I want to leave the "L" (Linux) out of the Apache/MySql/Php stack?

    The same reason anyone wants to run Sun hardware -- sheer size, (preceived) reliability, as well as a vendor you think you can trust who sells good support packages.

    As much as Linux has been really making inroads into the core UNIX market by using commodity hardware, at some point, that big honking Sun server which they promise to have someone on site within a few hours moves you into a whole different level of enterprise hardware.

    Sure, you could spend the money on a huge Sun box and then probably run Linux on it. But, if you need hardware that costs that much, the extra costs for the support contract dwindle into not important. Anything based on PC architecture isn't quite going to scale as big as what a Sun machine. And, they also get to piggy back on LAMP, and say "OK, here's a turnkey solution for anything you'd use LAMP for, but it's on bigger hardware and comes with a support contract".

    Cheers
  • by dananderson ( 1880 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2007 @06:37PM (#18004478) Homepage
    A fix for telnetd is now available for free download from sunsolve.sun.com [sun.com] e SPARC patch is 120068-02 or later and X86 patch is 120069-02.

    In any case, it's probably best to disable telnetd with svcadm disable telnet Better yet, next time you install or upgrade use the "reduced networking profile" which has most services disabled (not ssh).

  • Re:The "AMP Camp"??? (Score:5, Informative)

    by killjoe ( 766577 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2007 @06:45PM (#18004590)
    "Yeah, because they have ASP.NET, which pretty much blows the doors off of most other things productivity-wise."

    As a ASP.NET programmer let me be the first one to say BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!.

    ASP.NET makes it easy to slap controls on a screen and bind them to a recordset. If that was the entirety of your programming efforts then it would be productive. In the real world that's like 10% of job or less. In the real world I have debugging, refactoring, building, deploying, testing, and a billion other tasks where visual studio gets in my way and windows itself throws up roadblocks the size of winnebegos.

    When you consider the the whole of the software development life cycle ASP.NET and visual studio are at the bottom of the stack.
  • Re:Yawn.... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, 2007 @08:10PM (#18005638)

    why would I want to leave the "L" (Linux) out of the Apache/MySql/Php stack?


    DTrace, zones, ZFS. Then throw in the Sun StorageTek Availability Suite [opensolaris.org] and Solaris Cluster [sun.com] for fun: both are available as free downloads (AVS is open source (or will be soon)) or with upto 24x7 support.

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