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Who Wrote, and Paid For, 2.6.20 238

Corbet writes "LWN.net did some data mining through the kernel source repository and put together an analysis of where the patches came from. It turns out that most kernel code is contributed by people paid to do the work — but the list of companies sponsoring kernel development has a surprise or two." The article's conclusion: "The end result of all this is that a number of the widely-expressed opinions about kernel development turn out to be true. There really are thousands of developers — at least, almost 2,000 who put in at least one patch over the course of the last year. Linus Torvalds is directly responsible for a very small portion of the code which makes it into the kernel. Contemporary kernel development is spread out among a broad group of people, most of whom are paid for the work they do. Overall, the picture is of a broad-based and well-supported development community."
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  • by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:02PM (#18195674) Homepage Journal
    TFA: "It is not uncommon to see Linux referred to as a volunteer-created system, as opposed to the corporate-sponsored, proprietary alternatives. There has been little research, however, into how much work on Linux is truly 'volunteer' - done on a hacker's spare, unpaid time. In general, the assumption that Linux is created by volunteers is simply accepted."

    Thing is, even though some of those changes were done by programmers in the course of their paid jobs, isn't the work still being "volunteered," albeit by the company rather than an individual? As companies, Red Hat, IBM, Novell, or Big Roy's Heating and Plumbing don't need to help improve the kernel, nor are they directly paid for their work on it. They simply do so because a better Linux kernel does benefit them directly or indirectly, as do many individual volunteers.
  • Funding... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Needs Food Badly ( 995632 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:05PM (#18195716)
    It's really quite interesting the amount of funding that is sent in the direction of the devs working on the Linux kernel. I'm curious what would happen if the funding was spontaneously cut. Linux was built from scratch and supported for free back in the day, but would the main developers continue to work or even be interested at all if they weren't being paid?
  • Quite a paradox (Score:5, Insightful)

    by L. VeGas ( 580015 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:07PM (#18195746) Homepage Journal
    ...the list of companies sponsoring kernel development has a surprise or two.... a number of the widely-expressed opinions about kernel development turn out to be true.

    So... the surprise is that there is no surprise?
  • GPL vs. BSD (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ThePhilips ( 752041 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:07PM (#18195752) Homepage Journal

    Overall, the picture is of a broad-based and well-supported development community.

    It is just confirmation of old statement that GPL(v2) provides better (at moment best) ground for cooperation between vendors.

    Many companies are willing to control what OS does with their software and hardware - and Linux gives them that chance on cheap. But even more so, GPL allows Linux to "merge" back possible code base "forks". That's next to impossible with BSD licensed code most tend to keep closed.

    Let's just hope Linux would be able to go on surviving the "snowball" effect of the merges.

  • Often it's not that the employers dedicate staff to work on the kernel. It's that they hit a snag and contribute the time so they can go about using the kernel.

    Tom
  • No Real Surprises (Score:3, Insightful)

    by giminy ( 94188 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:19PM (#18195900) Homepage Journal
    I work in government, and talk with RedHat and IBM all the time about linux. When the article summary touted "a few surprises," I thought, "RedHat and IBM aren't the biggest contributors?" Turns out there was no surprise, after all...they're the top attributable contributors. Is anyone else surprised by this?
  • by LWATCDR ( 28044 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:19PM (#18195908) Homepage Journal
    Why is it shocking. Red Hat, IBM, and Novell hope to make a lot of money from Linux.
    Then you have the expensive systems that use Linux
    Intel and HP are still hopping that the Itantium will work out in the end and frankly Linux is the big OS for the Itantium. Not to many hobbiest have an Itantium sitting around so Intel and HP probably contribute a lot of code for the Itantium port.
    IBM sells a lot of Power systems that run Linux so they probably contributed a lot of code to support the new Power6. Not to mention the the 360/370/Zmachine port.
    Then you have Mips contributing for the embedded market.
    Linux is now big business.
  • Re:GPL vs. BSD (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Sancho ( 17056 ) * on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:19PM (#18195914) Homepage
    Why can't you merge changes back to BSD-licensed code? A BSD-licensed driver which makes it into the kernel is probably going to stay BSD-licensed, isn't it? Wouldn't that mean that changes to that driver could remain BSD?

    If someone's been taking BSD-licensed code and changing the license to GPL when it goes into the kernel tree, that's kinda lousy, in my opinion.
  • by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF ( 813746 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:20PM (#18195930)

    Thing is, even though some of those changes were done by programmers in the course of their paid jobs, isn't the work still being "volunteered," albeit by the company rather than an individual?

    If my large copy jobs are routinely late and I call Officemax and tell them they need to get their heads out of their asses, fire the guy responsible, and get me my stuff on time; am I volunteering my free consulting services to Officemax? It is all a matter of perspective. The term "volunteer" in our culture generally carries implications of altruism rather than self interest. The important point to take away from this is that despite the common perception otherwise, most Linux development is done for profit, even if that profit is not accumulated in so direct a manner as selling the OS.

  • by krlynch ( 158571 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:22PM (#18195958) Homepage

    So the work is not volunteered, it is a component of an agenda.

    Doesn't the same argument apply to non-monetarily-compensated "volunteers"? Don't they have an agenda as well?

  • by mooingyak ( 720677 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:23PM (#18195984)
    Your poster did not like the author's odd reluctance to use the word "I".
  • Re:GPL vs. BSD (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:24PM (#18196000)
    Why can't you merge changes back to BSD-licensed code?

    Because when Microsoft makes ftp.exe using BSD-licensed code, all they have to do is tell people that it had BSD-licensed code, not give them the code nor the changes they made. Or, take a look at the various commercial forks of postgres that add replication, live backups, or whatever. Sure, it'd be nice if they gave these features back to the postgresql database server, but the developers chose the BSD license knowing that the people who do stuff with the code don't have to give back.

    This is why the GPL makes code Free, while the BSD license makes programmers Free.
  • by prelelat ( 201821 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:25PM (#18196014)
    I don't agree with your standpoint. I do think that IBM Oracle and other companies benifit from this kind of program. On the other hand most people benifit in some way from contributing code to linux in the first place. People use it for experiance to get a job, to make the OS that they run better, to be apart of something and make themselves feel better. Just because a company is volenteering programmers to the cause because its benifiting them doesn't mean its not volenteering. Its like saying donating to linux because you want it to work better for you so that you can produce more money is not really a donation.

    Most people donate, volenteer for something because they know it will benifit them in the end(how many people at Harvard who have volenteering on their application to the school volenteered because it was something they wanted to do, I would guess half does that make their time in a soup kitchen less valuable or appreciated?). This doesn't mean that its any less noble in the end.
  • Re:BDFL (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JensenDied ( 1009293 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:25PM (#18196018)
    where does open source mean unpaid?
  • by iabervon ( 1971 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:29PM (#18196064) Homepage Journal
    For Red Hat and IBM, it's not really any more "volunteer" work than any corporate development work. Nobody pays Microsoft to write new versions of Office; they write them so that they can try to sell them. Big Roy's H&P and Google are unusual in contributing changes they made for internal use.
  • by morgan_greywolf ( 835522 ) * on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:29PM (#18196066) Homepage Journal
    Exactly. Most of the driver development in the early days were done by people who -- gasp, shock -- had that particular piece of hardware and needed it to work with the Linux kernel. Much driver development is *still* done that way, although some driver work is now sponsored by companies who develop the hardware (i.e., Broadcom)

    Most everyone working on the kernel has an agenda and that's okay -- open source isn't about communism or pure philanthropy, it's more of a libertarian or anarchocapitalist philosophy.
  • by 'nother poster ( 700681 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:33PM (#18196110)
    Volunteer does not HAVE to mean without compensation, it means without coercion, of their own free will. Many volunteers are not compensted for their efforts, but others are. The people who join the U.S. military are volunteers, but they do get paid during their term of service and they do get other benefits. No less volunteers, just compensated volunteers.
  • by Critical Facilities ( 850111 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:35PM (#18196148)
    From TFA

    Finding an answer to that question is somewhat trickier than looking at who wrote the patches, mostly because very few developers say "I wrote this on behalf of my employer." The approach taken by your editor was relatively simplistic, but, perhaps, the best that is practical. Any patch whose author's given email address indicates a corporate affiliation is assumed to have been developed by an employee of that corporation. So any patch posted by somebody with an ibm.com email address is accounted as having been done by an IBM employee.

    While I still find the result interesting, and while I also would like to know which organizations contribute the most to the kernel, I don't know that this method is really a good way to reflect whether the work was done in a "sponsored" fashion.

    That is, just because someone's email address shows that they're from IBM, doesn't necessarily mean that they were being paid by IBM to explicitly work on the kernel. For all we know, they might have "15 minutes of real, actual work" like this guy [wikipedia.org] and are just hacking away in their cube because they're bored. Maybe not, but still, for he purpose of determining which companies contribute most (or the individuals motivations to contribute), that seems like a shaky method of proving or disproving things.
  • by midnighttoadstool ( 703941 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:36PM (#18196158)
    It seems they got paid for what they were asked to do.
  • by VWJedi ( 972839 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:40PM (#18196212)

    The term "volunteer" in our culture generally carries implications of altruism rather than self interest.

    If you put it that way, no one is a "volunteer developer" for linux. They write / change code for their own benefit (to add features, improve functionality). Once they've finished, they usually give their code to "the linux community", but the reason they do the work in the first place is because they want to fix / improve the way their system runs.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:42PM (#18196238)

    I find it intriguing that "corporate America" takes so much bashing on /.,...

    The same could be said of government. Very few people would argue for entirely abolishing either government or corporations. Many people would argue for placing limits on the power of governments and corporations (checks and balances).

    This brings to mind the old catch-phrase "biting the hand that feeds you", doesn't it?

    Most people are extremely dependent on the government (roads, military, courts, etc.). Does that mean that they are "biting the hand that feeds them" when they argue for limited government?

  • by Erris ( 531066 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @01:59PM (#18196448) Homepage Journal

    The surprise is how twisted this study is. The author ignored the opinion of authors to concentrate on email addresses and the main conclusion is that 65% of kernel developers have a job. That people able to contribute to the Linux kernel would have a job is not much of a surprise. Ignoring the opinion of those you are trying to study is.

    So, let me quote all the relevent sections to back up what I have said.

    Finding an answer to that question is somewhat trickier than looking at who wrote the patches, mostly because very few developers say "I wrote this on behalf of my employer."

    Any patch whose author's given email address indicates a corporate affiliation is assumed to have been developed by an employee of that corporation. So any patch posted by somebody with an ibm.com email address is accounted as having been done by an IBM employee.

    Either way, the results come out about the same: at least 65% of the code which went into 2.6.20 was created by people working for companies. If the entire "unknown" group turns out to be developers working on a volunteer basis - an unlikely result - then just over 1/3 of the 2.6.20 patch stream was written by volunteers.

    The statistics are all very nice, but the conclusion is forced. I'd go with the opinion of the authors themselves, code is still not being written on behalf of companies.

    That's an unfortunate conclusion and things are changing. When free software takes the place of non free, the entire mechanism now "supporting" M$ and others will switch to free software authorship. When that happens hardware makers will step up to the plate with free drivers and contribute significant code. Many already do this. User feedback will still be important and of high quality, so the actual distribution of "this code paid for by Broadcom" vrs, "this code from Broadcom fixed by 101 happy users" is still hard for someone like me to predict.

  • You sir are why I disapprove of unlicensed breeding.

    Snags could include things like "driver not working" to "driver not present/existing", etc. Snag doesn't mean "Linus is a shit head, fucked up the kernel and now I gotsta fix it." Snag just means something that isn't working yet.

    If you look at a lot of non-distro patches, they're from people who ran into some problem or another.

    Tom
  • Re:oh noes.... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by skoaldipper ( 752281 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:16PM (#18196674)
    Call me a number crunching freak, but I personally found this the most interesting aspect of the article:

    Jeff Garzik comes out on top of this particular measurement by virtue of having deleted the long-unmaintained floppy tape subsystem.
    garnishing a 6% slice of "shovel and shuck duty" for that one, and then couple that metric with the one following showing Jeff atop the leaderboard with 12.4% for "most lines removed". That tells me this guy is blood and guts knee deep in the trenches. After porting a legacy system to linux for the Navy myself some time ago, I gotta give mad props to this guy. I feel your pain and salute you! Of course, I'm still standing at attention for all the other devs too.
  • by mark3748 ( 1002268 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:39PM (#18197006)
    Companies that provide new code and patches to the open source community are in no way obligated to provide them.... they can keep the changes to themselves and never release them to the community. The work that they do and give back to the community is therefore "volunteered".

    Most everyone working on the kernel has an agenda and that's okay -- open source isn't about communism or pure philanthropy, it's more of a libertarian or anarchocapitalist philosophy.
    This is quite possibly the best explanations of the open source community that I've read.
  • by erroneus ( 253617 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:42PM (#18197046) Homepage
    ...The darkest secret that Microsoft and other software companies don't want the rest of the world to know.

    Companies are shelling out billions of dollars each year just to run some software that needs to be renewed, updated and purchased again and again and again.

    Some companies are investing their workers or their donations into the community software projects because in some way, it will truly benefit them in a way that will not expire the way proprietary software does. So when people start noticing that businesses do more than just "use" F/OSS, but they contribute to it in a way that makes it more usable for themselves. And depending on the way they contribute, they can also write off some on their taxes as part of a tax strategy.

    So companies can spend their software budget in a way the keeps them locked in and paying ridiculous annual fees and subscriptions, or they can actually pay to get the software they actually want in the way they want it, benefit themselves, benefit the public and even build a lot of good will in various communities.

    I am hopeful to see the rest of the F/OSS revolution in my life time...
  • by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:47PM (#18197124)
    These are only the submitters, not necessarily the actual authors of the changes.

    Many patches are fed in through email lists etc where the maintainer (more likely to be a "named person") picks it up and pushes it upstream. I expect many volunteers will be in that group.

  • by Daishiman ( 698845 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:54PM (#18197230)
    There is no contradiction in critiquing the negative aspects of corporate power while praising its positive ones. The fact that most /.ers do not argue in favor of socialist revolutions imply that they see certain good in a market economy where corporations are bound to exist. That doesn't mean that we have to submissively accept everything that comes with that.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01, 2007 @02:59PM (#18197316)
    And, lest you presume to be an anarchocapitalist or libertarian who can talk for everyone involved (*cough* ESR *cough*) it might be important to remember that Linux is licenced under the GPL (v2), and that there are other kernels licenced under "open source" licences which linux has surpassed on the technical front. You'd think then that this means that Linux being free software, as opposed to your term "open source", has something to do with people contributing and this subsequent success. If your proposition that open source and anarchocapitalism and libertarianism are the driving forces is correct, why isn't the FreeBSD kernel or DragonFlyBSD kernel kicking its ass? Like it or not the GPL and LGPL, distinctively free software - not open source, are by far and away the most used licences out there beyond the kernel too. I recall it was something like 70% of projects on sourceforge are GPL or LGPL, but you'd have to look it up for the exact number.

    At least free software people admit open source people exist and that there are many reasons why people contribute. You, like ESR and his editing of the "hacker" entry in the jargon file, are not a hacker but a hack - pushing the open source agenda every chance you get and editing the definition to try and erase your opponents. Ironically Stalinistic, considering he's the favourite strawman of anarchocapitalists and libertarians.
  • Re:GPL vs. BSD (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jimicus ( 737525 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @03:12PM (#18197524)
    Why can't you merge changes back to BSD-licensed code?

    Nothing. But if I merge changes into a piece of BSD-licensed code, there's nothing to stop my competitor 20 miles down the road downloading this piece of code complete with my changes, making a few minor tweaks to it, keeping those tweaks private and selling it - even though I provided a lot of the code which his product is based on.

    With the GPL, he can still make tweaks to it but he's got to make those tweaks freely available to anyone he distributes code to. Many choose to simply submit these tweaks as patches upstream rather than maintain their own fork of the software - not really a lot of point in being that anal when the license explicity allows your customer to do that anyway.

    What we're seeing happening now - particularly in the embedded space - is that manufacturers are taking the free stuff in Linux, tweaking the kernel and submitting changes where necessary but keeping the majority of their proprietary code logically separate in userland so they don't have to GPL it. Hence why you can have a router based on Linux which is technically open source, but the clever stuff (eg. removing the complication from configuring iptables with a web app, a means of holding firewall rules and some glue to turn these into iptables commands) remains private.
  • Re:BDFL (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Fordiman ( 689627 ) <fordiman @ g m a i l . com> on Thursday March 01, 2007 @03:17PM (#18197592) Homepage Journal
    "This shows that opensores does just not work. It has been a great vision, but now it's time to move on except for some braindead hippies who just refuse to accept the realities."

    How do you figure exactly? It looks to me like a number of companies find it to be a profitable endeavor to pay their developers to work on a free and open project. The benefits to, say, IBM, are an increasingly stable server platform they can sell on their hardware. RedHat, for example, runs their business off of supporting Linux - and as a result also has a vested interest in its development.

    Honestly, I don't know how you came to the conclusion that 'opensores does just not work' (great English, by the by). I'd say that it's evidence that Open Source not only works, but if your project is useful to a company, they may just hire you to develop it for them.
  • by xappax ( 876447 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @03:41PM (#18197978)
    Most everyone working on the kernel has an agenda and that's okay -- open source isn't about communism or pure philanthropy, it's more of a libertarian or anarchocapitalist philosophy.

    Lots of geeks are anarchocapitalists, so it makes sense that they'd want to claim the successful and popular open source movement as their own, but I don't think they're as similar as you assert.

    Anarcho-capitalism is about profit and individual property as the central pillars of society. Open source is not about profit, and it's definitely not about private property.

    Open source is a tradition that was established to fight back against those who sought to profit from proprietary computer code. It was introduced as a way to foster cooperation and support between those programmers who didn't seek to profit from their code, but did want to share it with other like-minded people. Open source has become so successful that entire profit-making industries have come to depend on it, but at its core Open Source is designed as a sort of "non-profit cooperative" for people who code for free. Open source is a gift economy - sure everyone gives gifts for different reasons, but they're still gifts.

    The open source philosophy is also clearly against private property. Of course, the only form of property that open source involves is intellectual property, which many anarcho-capitalists claim is a special case, but I think the point should still be made that nobody owns open source code, and nobody can own it. Since private ownership of everything is a central tenet of anarcho-capitalism I can't see where the similarity is.

    I know socialism is a bad word on Slashdot, because it means red commie soviets who are going to take away all our civil rights and make us live like in 1984, but personally, I see the open source movement as an example of voluntary socialism, or anarcho-socialism - programmers have decided that the existing market forces are abusing their property rights to producing crap software for ridiculous prices. So, they have voluntarily formed a network which allows them to share their resources in a non-market environment.

    The reason open source software is so good is precisely because it's not driven by profit-oriented market forces, but by the diverse motivations and interests of many people and organizations. Obviously they're not doing it out of pure generosity, but in general when people develop open source code they're considering how to make good code primarily, not how to make lots of profit primarily.
  • Re:uni (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 01, 2007 @06:47PM (#18200306)
    What retard modded this as flamebait?

    Some university courses actually require their students to submit code to a development project like Linux.

    If you really thought this was embarassing, modding down the facts isn't going to change it.
  • by stephanruby ( 542433 ) on Thursday March 01, 2007 @07:15PM (#18200694)
    "[Open source] was introduced as a way to foster cooperation and support between those programmers who didn't seek to profit from their code, but did want to share it with other like-minded people."

    I'm sure open source was introduced for many different reasons, sometimes even conflicting reasons, but for me open source means that I can profit from my labor, my reputation, my tacit understanding of the code, etc. That is what I get when I invest my time and my money into open source.

    And to me at least, the actual code is only an artifact, it may be valuable, but it is not the only valuable part of my work, nor is it necessarily the *most* valuable part of my work. So open source (for me) is/was a pricing decision -- it is/was a pricing decision that holds/held the most promise in terms of profit (considering my situation and the type of market I was in at the time). Also, open source was the easiest way for me to profit from my work since I didn't have the resources, nor the knowledge, to seriously productize my code any other way.

    Just thought I'd add my 0.2
  • by jsiren ( 886858 ) on Friday March 02, 2007 @02:23AM (#18204032) Homepage
    It's up to the women to get involved. I'm not stopping them. Others can speak for themselves.

    Linux is what you make of it. If you want a "less geeky" distribution, however you define that, either contribute to a distribution or start your own.

    I would think contributions would be evaluated on their own merit, regardless of the contributor's gender. Besides, when all you know about the other person is their name and email address, you can never be completely sure about their gender, either.

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