Microsoft Joins OpenAjax Alliance 104
Kurtz writes "Microsoft has joined The OpenAjax Alliance, which is focused on accelerating the use of Asynchronous JavaScript and XML, or Ajax, technologies. Microsoft said it agreed to join the alliance to work with other vendors to evolve Ajax."
Only fitting... (Score:3, Insightful)
Well it seems only fitting, since they're the ones who invented Ajax in the first place...
Embrace, extend... evolve (Score:3, Insightful)
Hands up, everyone who thinks Ajax is now doomed...
How about a link? (Score:5, Insightful)
That said, I have no idea why this alliance is needed, even after reading most of their site. We already have Prototype [prototypejs.org], MooTools [mootools.net], jQuery [jquery.com] and other great libraries. I'd be perfectly happy if Microsoft could just make IE fully support CSS instead of joining this buzzword-masturbating alliance...
boon and bane (Score:3, Insightful)
Embrace, Extend, Exterminate (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:The hole is getting deep (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, this website serves absolutely no purpose, and has no weight in the industry. It's a place for geeks to verbally masturbate.
Nobody goes to their boss with a proposal or idea that begins with "I read on slashdot..."
*Raises Hand* (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, okay, mostly IE and everyone else. So count this AC in: I question Microsoft's involvement in anything that attempts to erode their hedgemony over any market space. From www.openajax.org:
MS is obviously joining to help ensure that IE isn't written out of the future of web applications - how they accomplish that here, especially when most ajax libs steamroll over all browser inconsistencies anyway, is beyond me.
Re:boon and bane (Score:4, Insightful)
Corporate rubbish? (Score:5, Insightful)
John Resig, lead developer of the jQuery [jquery.com] library, has already written about [ejohn.org] this alliance. Choice quote:
Re:Embrace, extend... evolve (Score:1, Insightful)
SOAP-ification (Score:3, Insightful)
Just like XML-RPC was. Then Microsoft made it all complicated and called it SOAP. Now you need a library to use SOAP because its so complicated.
I hope this doesn't happen to AJAX!!
Re:Not really (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Embrace, extend... evolve (Score:3, Insightful)
Look at the OpenAjax HUB:
http://ejohn.org/blog/thoughts-on-openajax/ [ejohn.org]
This is clearly an attempt to wrest control of Ajax from the spotty oiks out there who made Ajax a success whilst Ms dropped the ball.
"Open" my arse. Open in the sense of this dungeon door is open, walk right in. Bring your wallet with you!
Re:Embrace, extend... evolve (Score:3, Insightful)
Claiming that means Microsoft actually wants AJAX to be the first widespread technology that they don't hook with proprietary extensions is ridiculous. Just because they had a part in the technology existing doesn't mean they want it to be a uniform platform and play well with others. History has shown that there have been literally no instances where Microsoft has embraced an open technology and failed to extend.
Microsoft has never been interested in making anything truly open. Be it a standard, format, protocol, or anything else. There is fairly substantial historical basis for calling foul the moment they send representatives from the dark empire to join a commitee to develop an open anything.
The only role Microsoft will play on this committee is keeping the standard conservative and covering only core functions. That way there is plenty of room for them to extend the hell out of it.
Re:The hole is getting deep (Score:3, Insightful)