TIOBE Declares Python the Programming Language of 2007 166
The TIOBE Programming Community Index has declared Python as the Programming Language of 2007 due to a 58% surge in its popularity rating during the year, making it now the sixth most popular programming language and finally surpassing Perl. They also assert that Python has become the "defacto glue language," being "especially beloved by system administrators and build managers."
Re:Maybe we will see more Web (Score:5, Informative)
Re:TIOBE? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Informative)
I'm not a troll, just wondering why there's so much bashing of PHP on Slashdot. I am aware of many of the criticisms of PHP. One of them you mentioned:
You'll see that I partly addressed that criticism with my "Zend is working hard to increase the level of professionalism of the PHP community" statement. I'm not going to go into a full length defense of PHP but if you are looking for such a defense I would suggest 10 PHP Myths Dispelled [jaybill.com]. I am not a PHP zealot, I just have a lot of experience with it and would prefer to build web applications using PHP over the alternatives that I've tried (Java/JSP, ASP.NET). I can't compare it to RoR or Python since I have tried neither. I've read about both and have seen nothing compelling to make me consider switching. I'm quite productive developing in PHP and am quite aware of both it's advantages and criticisms.
Re:Maybe we will see more Web (Score:5, Informative)
That would definitely effect any re-implementation I had to do. I probably didn't make myself clear, but the efficiency was gained on 100% new code adding a new set of basically standalone features (A quizzing module added to a document control system). Of course, the efficiency gain was over my estimates, and they're subject to the accuracy of my initial estimates. I've been using the trac timing and estimation plugin to track my estimations over this project though, and they've been pretty dead-on (especially the last couple months).
When I go back and do re-implementation of features already present in PHP, I should only expect big gains coming from being able to just port code instead of design. I would really like to see more empirical evidence on the topic myself, but all I have to go on is my personal data.
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Hmmm (Score:1, Informative)
And if you can't see what's wrong with that (especially if you think it's comparable to anonymous functions in Lisp, Ruby, Haskell, etc etc), you need to go boil yourself in oil.
Re:Build management: Switching from gmake to Pytho (Score:1, Informative)
Re:TIOBE? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Reasons to love PYTHON! (Score:3, Informative)
It's worth mentioning that, at least in IRC, this [pastebin.com] is the preferred medium. It should work elsewhere, too, and there are scripts to assist in it.
Your point is valid, but I don't believe I should constrain the format of a language because it won't work in some mediums. Should I not include []-bracketed arrays because bbcode might hate them?
Ah, but if the whitespace gets screwed up in a python program, that's equivalent to the bracketing getting screwed up in a C-style program. So the difference is that broken whitespace is not the domain of a code beautifier in Python, anymore than brackets and parentheses are the domain of a code beautifier in just about any language.
Also, code beautifiers are still going to leave some things out of place, particularly comments which are spaced to match the code.