Microsoft Unveils Virtualization Strategy 141
billstewart writes "The Wall Street Journal reports that Microsoft will be announcing a virtualization strategy on Tuesday. Of course there's plenty of focus on the competition with VMware, including the obligatory reference to Microsoft's entry into the browser wars prior to cutting off Netscape's air supply. The pieces of the picture will include: an alliance with Citrix Systems, owners of XenSource; acquisition of privately held Calista Technologies of San Jose, which has software that speeds up the performance of applications running in a virtualized environment; and lower price for Windows Vista used on virtualized computers. Microsoft also reversed its earlier position and will now allow the Home Basic and Home Premium versions of Vista to run under virtualization. The company confirmed its plans to deliver its Hyper-V hypervisor within six months of the launch of Windows Server 2008 (betas available now), which is expected this quarter."
What worries me. (Score:5, Insightful)
I would also think about the way IE turned into an awfully modularized insecure POS after winning.
Let's just hope Xen makers don't play the part of NCSA Mosaic.
Re:Scary? (Score:1, Insightful)
Somehow their first attempts always seem so much worse than anyone elses first attempt. I imagine this endeavour will be no more successful than vista
Re:Scary?-The future. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Scary? (Score:5, Insightful)
Who did they buy to get Virtual PC in the first place? I'd be very surprised to hear that they developed it entirely in-house.
This endeavour will be somewhat successful - VPC is out there at the moment, and its free since roughly the same time VMWare offered VMWare server for free (go figure
If they do give their hypervisor away for free, then VMware will release ESX too and nothing will really change! I think this can only be a good thing for us
Vista now virtualisable (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm on OS X and run a VMware image of XP for a couple of apps. I have no need for Vista, but should a need arise I can now upgrade to the lower versions and carry on running. MS gets some money from me it previously wouldn't have had and I can still use my platform of choice.
That's good news for people.
Cheers,
Ian
Re:Hyper-V hypervisor (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What worries me. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Scary? (Score:2, Insightful)
Agreed.
One of the benefits of virtualised Linux is that you can run minimal VMs for different purposes. Right now I have a desktop running about 8 Xen instances of Debian, in a mixture of Stable, Testing, and Unstable.
If you imagine running Microsoft Windows for testing you'd be interested in running XP, Vista, and Server. That is most likely going to become a licensing nightmare.
Running virtual Windows should be OK itself, if your host hardware is sufficient (since Windows has GUI and is generally "busier" than Linux installs. But the licensing cost(s) will be something that don't tend to apply to the Linux virtualization.
Re:Scary? (Score:1, Insightful)
I think this is a good thing (Score:3, Insightful)
Microsoft wanting a piece of the market could easily result in great products being created. Look at the recent versions of IIS that have been a vast improvement thanks to the old versions being crappy compared to Apache. Even MS realise that people who are interested in this sort of thing aren't after any old shit.
Now for sale: (Score:1, Insightful)
cant we fork it !?!?! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Microsoft and Xen will kill VMWare (Score:2, Insightful)
I think VMWare will be fine so long as they keep the linux side spanking whatever MS can do there.
Re:Microsoft and Xen will kill VMWare (Score:3, Insightful)
Unless VMware gets its act together it's going to lose market share pretty quickly. The documentation is awful. Just. Fucking. Awful. There's tons of it to be sure, but it's contradictory, badly written, confusing and downright wrong in places.
Maybe so, but it's streets ahead of the documentation of the Linux-based offerings (to say nothing of the UI and management tools). VMWare have a long, long way to fall before any of the current alternatives knock them off (through either fair means _or_ foul).
Re:Microsoft and Xen will kill VMWare (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Scary? Well, I for one welcomed Innotek's (Score:3, Insightful)