Microsoft to Give Away Developer Tools to Students 555
beuges writes "The Associated Press is reporting that Microsoft will make full versions of their development tools available to students.
"The Redmond-based software maker said late Monday it will let students download Visual Studio Professional Edition, a software development environment; Expression Studio, which includes graphic design and Web site and hybrid Web-desktop programming tools; and XNA Game Studio 2.0, a video game development program. Gates said students will want to try Microsoft's tools because they're more powerful than the open-source combination of Linux-based operating systems, the Apache Web server, the MySQL database and the PHP scripting language used to make complex Web sites.
But Gates said giving away Microsoft software isn't intended to turn students against open source software entirely. Rather, he hopes it will just add one more tool to their belt.""
Source Code? (Score:2, Funny)
Ha (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Professional Tools (Score:5, Funny)
This sounds familiar... (Score:2, Funny)
This is a "good" move on MS' part~ (Score:5, Funny)
But then I go home, and having thought of a great feature on the drive home, I FTP into my site, open with a text editor, (insert notepad/BBedit/eMacs/Vi here to taste), and write the code by hand. Even if that means copying an pasting, I... how shall I say this... ***still have to know what I'm doing***. Yeah, all you n00bs, you drag and drop those controls and use F4 to set the properties...Go 'head...
But the minute you have to do that with your ARMPIT, you are sunk. I took a written (the process of leaving graphite trails on paper) test for ASP.NET once... Unless you know what your are doing, you are screwed. Use whatever tools you want, whatever LAMP/.NET. But make sure you learn what you are doing, and not just doing.
Re:Professional Tools (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A billion students? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Professional Tools (Score:4, Funny)
The other fun wording I found on the page is:
Download your products
I thought the products were the property of Microsoft? If I download this, can I assume full legal ownership of my copy?
Re:Professional Tools (Score:4, Funny)
Yes. They were professional then.
Academic Genuine Authentication? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:even xml (Score:3, Funny)
What is this "correct use of xml" that you talk about?
Some possibilities?
<for>
<target_market>
Dummies
</target_market>
</for>
</xml>"
Maybe we should sprinkle the DTDs with some DDT.
Re:Come Again? (Score:5, Funny)
Your recommended specs for a glorified text editor made me snort milk out of my nose. I hadn't done that since the 1st grade. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Re:Come Again? (Score:3, Funny)
so yea.. first of make sure your computer works before you complain about the software not running on it.
Emacs? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Professional Tools (Score:5, Funny)
Emacs 2.2: 36Mb zipped. (http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/)
Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition: 2.2Gb required disk space (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2008/products/bb894726.aspx)
They got an entire operating system into 36Mb?
Probably because they left out the editor. That's the 2.2 Gb. ^.^
That's not how you do it. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Professional Tools (Score:2, Funny)
So, just like Visual Studio then?
Re:Professional Tools (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Come Again? (Score:3, Funny)
Simulating the targeting of Windows and Linux Platforms with missiles might be a bit overkill even for a MS Studio Developer.