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Microsoft's Silverlight Strategy 'Has Shifted' 212

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An anonymous reader writes "It looks like Microsoft might finally be realizing that Silverlight can't cover every platform, according to this conversation with Bob Muglia: '... when it comes to touting Silverlight as Microsoft’s vehicle for delivering a cross-platform runtime, "our strategy has shifted," Muglia told [ZDNet]. Silverlight will continue to be a cross-platform solution, working on a variety of operating system/browser platforms, going forward, he said. "But HTML is the only true cross platform solution for everything, including (Apple's) iOS platform," Muglia said.'"
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Microsoft's Silverlight Strategy 'Has Shifted'

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  • by by (1706743) (1706744) on Friday October 29, 2010 @06:37PM (#34069022)
    I want Silverlight for Linux; essentially the only reason I ever boot into Windows is for Netflix's "Watch Instantly" feature.

    Of course, my desire for this despite the DRM probably means I'm going to open-source fundamentalist hell...I mean, I even use the proprietary nVidia drivers...
  • Thanks Apple! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nine-times (778537) <nine.times@gmail.com> on Friday October 29, 2010 @06:46PM (#34069130) Homepage

    Yet again, we all benefit from the fact that Steve Jobs is an asshole. His refusal to adopt WMA or license FairPlay killed DRM in the music industry, and now his refusal to allow Flash/Silverlight is pushing Internet standards forward.

    What's next? Video? Can we get a real TVoIP system to kill cable? DRM-free movie/TV purchases?

  • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Friday October 29, 2010 @06:52PM (#34069182)

    the only reason I ever boot into Windows is for Netflix's "Watch Instantly" feature.

    Of course, my desire for this despite the DRM probably means I'm going to open-source fundamentalist hell..

    If that Hell is a world where the middle-men have even greater control over distribution than they do now, where the first sale doctrine is an anachronism, where cultural history can be rewritten or censored as easily as deleting a file, then yeah, you are merrily skipping down that path.

  • HTML wins (Score:3, Interesting)

    by rsborg (111459) on Friday October 29, 2010 @06:59PM (#34069228) Homepage

    Nice. For those of you complaining about how HTML doesn't or can't do everything that Flash/Silverlight/Java can do, realize that most of that stuff is not really necessary for basic information display purposes.

    Now I'm waiting to see how Silverlight+WP7 and AdobeAir+Playbook will pan out. If the responsiveness and capabilities can't parallel native, these interpreted OS layers will be at a significant disadvantage. However, Palm did deliver something quite great with WebOS which was based on HTML/CSS/JS, so maybe this is the next step and most natural fit for technologies like Silverlight and Air...

  • Re:HTML5 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bennomatic (691188) on Friday October 29, 2010 @07:16PM (#34069360) Homepage
    WRT the floppies, you must either be joking or a kid. Long before Apple was the first to abandon 3.5" floppies, they were among the first mass market computer makers to adopt their use. When the original Mac came out, nearly every other system came by default with 5.25" floppy drives. 3.5" drives were available as options for those other systems, but the Mac was, if not the first, one of the first to have 3.5" as the built-in standard.

    WRT FireWire vs. USB, I'm pretty certain (although I could stand corrected) that Apple's stance has always been that there are some things for which FW is better, and other things for which USB is better. I'm pretty sure that every Mac that has shipped with a FW port has also shipped with at least one USB port. Apple never, ever, ever tried to push anyone towards FW keyboards and mice, for example.

    What's interesting is that with USB2.0--while it's still not as fast as FW400 due to its half-duplex connection--Apple has accepted that FW's benefits aren't really all that tangible outside of the professional realm. Running a music studio and need to do 32-track digital audio? Get a Mac Pro with FW800. Recording your neighborhood jam sessions with Garage Band? The USB interface on your MacBook is good enough.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, once USB3.0 ships, Apple even moves away from FW800 on pro devices and just puts USB3 on everything. My understanding is that USB3 goes full duplex *and* increases to 800Mbps (though I could be wrong). If that is indeed the case, then unless there's something I'm not aware of, the benefits of FW400/800 are essentially nil.
  • Netflix (Score:3, Interesting)

    by guyminuslife (1349809) on Friday October 29, 2010 @07:46PM (#34069616)

    They use Silverlight. They use it on the Mac. I am assuming that Microsoft is basically shouting at them to drop it and switch to Flash.

    Which really doesn't mean anything for Windows or Mac users, but does mean that Linux users may be able to use Netflix streaming sometime soon.

  • Re:HTML5 (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 29, 2010 @10:42PM (#34070534)

    I wouldn't be surprised if, once USB3.0 ships, Apple even moves away from FW800 on pro devices and just puts USB3 on everything. My understanding is that USB3 goes full duplex *and* increases to 800Mbps (though I could be wrong). If that is indeed the case, then unless there's something I'm not aware of, the benefits of FW400/800 are essentially nil.

    How's CPU utilization on USB3?

    With 1 and 2, you need the CPU involved since the USB controllers are fairly dumb and need babysitting. FireWire on the other hand has smarter (and thus slightly more expensive) controllers, so the 'hub' and the device can transfer data via DMA without getting the CPU involved as often. Two FW devices can even transfer between each other without involving the host to a certain extent.

    I've seen USB hard disk transfer soak up an entire core in 2.0. I'm curious to know how much USB3 will use since it transfers even more data.

  • I warned management (Score:2, Interesting)

    by marcel (6435) on Saturday October 30, 2010 @04:26AM (#34071488)
    We got a talk about Silverlight in 2007 from some MS-exec telling us that this would be the next best thing since sliced bread. When I asked some akward questions asking about continued multiplatform support, both the MS and internal management told me to shut up and told me that the 'community should step in' in the Linux case (moonlight). In 2008 they launched their Silverlight app and not all customers could access it (basically, none could due to bugs in the app, but after these were fixed, at least a small ammount of customers who went through the hassle of installing Silverlight could access it). Some customers were never able to access the application (due to Silverlight issues on their platform or the absence of Silverlight). And now finally MS finds out that they cannot deliver anyway in their usual 180 degrees turn. Oh how I'd love to do that meeting again...
  • by jimicus (737525) on Saturday October 30, 2010 @05:25AM (#34071662)

    Thing is, I believe that some quarters (particularly those who deal with desktop software) within Microsoft honestly think that "cross platform" means "works with more than one version of Windows". Were you to walk into one of their meetings and suggest supporting a non-Windows based platform, you'd get everything from funny looks to comments along the lines of "But nobody's used DOS for years!". As far as they're concerned, you might just as well propose video streaming to a paper pad, it'd be equally absurd.

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