Oracle Solaris 11 Express Released 160
comay writes "Today Oracle released Solaris 11 Express 2010.11. It includes a large number of new features (PDF) not found in either Oracle Solaris 10 or previous OpenSolaris releases, including ZFS encryption and deduplication, network-based packaging and provisioning systems, network virtualization, optimized I/O for NUMA platforms and optimized platform support including support for Intel's latest Nehalem and SPARC T3. In addition, Oracle Solaris 10 support is available from within a container/zone so migration of existing systems is greatly simplified."
Reader gtirloni adds, "Oracle also announced that this is not a beta or preview, but a full, supported release aimed at everybody developing, testing, prototyping or demonstrating applications running on the latest Solaris release (not allowed to be used in production)."
Do not want (Score:4, Informative)
Thanks, Larry. Unfortunately, we're up to our ears in new hardware running virtual instances of Solaris 8 and 9 still. Imagine all that wonderful new crap we could do with Solaris 11? Like hosting Solaris 8 and Solaris 9 forever... Please do something useful like not being a giant IT asshole. Thanks!
Oh, and great work on Java and OpenOffice! Way to drive off any good developers. Guess you'll need to raise your prices even more to pay for angry junior software engineers to replace freely available, superior talent. Weren't you going to ride a balloon to the sun, or was that Beardy Branson? I get you two confused.
Re:But ... (Score:4, Informative)
Yes [opensolaris.org]
Full, Supported Release -- That we can't use (Score:5, Informative)
Minor quibble... (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, you can't use the free download version for any production use. It's really annoying, and severely limits the usefulness of S11 Express.
However, note that if you have an Oracle Premium Support contract (all Oracle Support is Premium ;-), then you have an entitlement to use S11 Express in a production environment, and receive normal support for it, just like you have an RTU and Support for Oracle Linux and Oracle Solaris 10 via the same contract.
This is just an FYI - I'm not commenting on the utility or "goodness" of S11Express.
-Erik
Re:Full, Supported Release -- CORRECTION (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Do not want (Score:1, Informative)
The "freely available, superior talent" producing the Linux desktop is really innovating and producing superior software... Practically every open source software project that matters, including those you mentioned and the Linux kernel, is produced primarily by paid developers.
Re:But ... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Solaris 11 will be available in 2011 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:But ... (Score:4, Informative)
BrandZ never supported newer than CentOS 3.8 because it emulated Linux 2.4 kernel. It was killed and put in the attic before the Oracle takeover. Also the emulation was never good enough to run apache. I don't think it was ever used very much except internally to run 'acroread', but Sun sure did flog it to death at every users group marketing event. Half of the Solaris 10 Promises they actually did fully, usefully deliver, albeit a couple years late, but BrandZ wasn't one of them.
I would say Xen is a better way to run Linux than VirtualBox. There's a lot of work in OpenSolaris on polishing Xen, though unfortunately, (1) Xen isn't in OpenIndiana, and (2) you can't run VirtualBox and Xen at the same time. :)
There's stuff in Solaris that doesn't get nearly enough credit though, like Crossbow 10gig NIC acceleration similar to RPS & RFS in Linux, Infiniband support and NFS-RDMA transport, 'eventports' (an Nginx-friendly feature similar to epoll and kqueue), and the integration between the ipkg package system and ZFS, and mdb (everyone talks about dtrace, but no one about mdb). Then there's stuff that just shockingly sucks, like JDS and ipfilter and the permanent lack of a Chromium port.
Re:Wait, what? (Score:1, Informative)
You just proved the GP's point.
From the license (Score:5, Informative)
You may not:
- use the Programs for your own internal business purposes (other than developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your applications) or for any commercial or production purposes;
- remove or modify any program markings or any notice of our proprietary rights;
- make the Programs available in any manner to any third party;
- use the Programs to provide third-party training;
- assign this agreement or give or transfer the Programs or an interest in them to another individual or entity;
- cause or permit reverse engineering (unless required by law for interoperability), disassembly or decompilation of the Programs;
- disclose results of any benchmark test results related to the Programs without our prior consen
Re:But ... (Score:3, Informative)
[root@brandz ~]# uname -apm
Linux brandz 2.6.18 BrandZ fake linux i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[root@brandz ~]# cat
CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
[root@brandz ~]#
Re:VirtualBox? (Score:4, Informative)
I wonder if ZFS will continue to be released to be used in FreeBSD.
Yes -- http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2010-August/009197.html [freebsd.org]
Re:Minor quibble... (Score:5, Informative)
A mere $1000,- per Socket.
https://shop.oracle.com/pls/ostore/f?p=ostore:product:2847258479365119::NO:RP,3:P3_LPI,P3_PROD_HIER_ID:27242443094470222098916,14755487300180585563861 [oracle.com]
Re:Yesterday's News (Score:4, Informative)
Actually, it's 17 times less relevant than AIX, at least in the Top 500 [top500.org].
no, they really didn't have 2.6 support. (Score:2, Informative)
This post is extremely dishonest. If you've actually installed enough to get that output, that necessarily means you already realize (1) you installed from some experimental .tar.gz file with all kinds of undocumented tampering, meant for development, not from the actual release .iso the way the 2.4 'lx' brand installs, so 'cat /etc/redhat-release' doesn't actually mean the installer ran up to that point which is something it would imply to any reasonable individual. In fact the GNU tar that extracted that .tar.gz was probably the solaris one, not even Linux tar.
And (2) it's so broken that basic programs like 'rm' don't run! [jbit.net] That page says, b131 was the first one with enough basic syscalls for 'rm' to work. and lx brand was moved to the attic in b143 (search for EOF lx brand) [sun.com].
This field is full of overwhelming arcania, and without the good faith effort of people like yourself we'll make bad decisions and garble our own history. Please don't spew out deliberately misleading teasers just for the contrary LULZ of it.
Re:no, they really didn't have 2.6 support. (Score:3, Informative)
False.
I used a simple image file from openvz I believe. There was NO tampering needed to get this working. Simply pointing the zoneadm installer to use the tar.gz file. Sure it's not a "REAL" install, but it's by no means "undocumented tampering"
I've actually been running a full rtorrent with web interface (XML-RPC) without ANY hiccup for over the last year.
This was first running on snv118, but now I'm running snv134. My friend was running his similar setup on snv118 as well. Not sure why that was a report for rm not working, because I'm quite sure if it was as foobar'd as you claim, NOTHING would work. I have had barely any issues except what I list below.
I have ANOTHER 2.6 brandZ running a full mysql database, while another runs X-forwarding and shell access.
I actually had WINE running one at one point for utorrent, but there were some issues with some libraries, so dns wouldn't work only for utorrent.
Re:Sparc T3? Interesting... (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Wait, what? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Minor quibble... (Score:1, Informative)
A mere $1000,- per Socket.
Re:no, they really didn't have 2.6 support. (Score:3, Informative)
lx2.6 (Linux kernel 2.6 support) is considered experimental. It runs fine for me and a couple others that I know, but cannot say if it will work for you. There are certain things that WILL NOT work. Your best bet is to just try it.
Mind you these zones I run aren't heavily utilized, but I do know hash checking torrents doesn't give the CPU a break. It's nice seeing each process in a zone show up in my main OpenSolaris "top" process tree.
Check out this forum: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=466361&tstart=0 [opensolaris.org] read "jwhitby3"'s post on using the openvz image.
The posts are from early October, and b131 wasn't even out then. jwhitby3 is reportedly using 2009.06.. So build 111b or so.
First login, you'll need to use zlogin -S to change the root pass. After that, it should run beautifully... Just probably not a good idea to run it in a true production environment.
Re:no, they really didn't have 2.6 support. (Score:3, Informative)
Almost forgot..
Here's the info page on OpenSolaris
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+brandz/linux_2_6 [opensolaris.org]
You can follow pretty closely - ignoring the guide about creating your own image since you'll be using an openvz image. The rest is relevant. .. Just remember they're removing lx support in the newest versions =(
Also I think the /etc/resolv.conf file doesn't exist after setting up the zone.. So you'll need to create one to do anything practical online.