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Oracle and Microsoft To Announce Cloud Partnership Monday 82

Posted by Soulskill
from the they-go-together-like-peanut-butter-and-jellyfish dept.
symbolset writes "While some might liken the deal to the Empire joining up with the Trade Federation, there may be some interesting outcomes for this one. On Monday Microsoft and Oracle are expected to announce a 'cloud" partnership'. Although the two companies often seem to be at odds, two of their founders — Bill Gates and Larry Ellison — are partners in charity in the 'giving pledge.' Is this the beginning of a beautiful friendship? 'Oracle is battling an image not of growing up, but of growing old. On Thursday the company announced lower than expected earnings, which it ascribed to a tough economy overseas. Cloud-based software grew well, but remains a small part of its overall revenue. The company also said it would raise its dividend and announced a big stock buyback, behaviors usually undertaken by tech companies when they begin to grow more slowly.'"
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Oracle and Microsoft To Announce Cloud Partnership Monday

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  • Cloud schmoud (Score:4, Informative)

    by ViaNRG (892147) on Sunday June 23, 2013 @08:30AM (#44084247) Homepage
    I thought Larry Ellison hates cloud computing? [cnet.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Imagine what their children will look like?

    • Imagine what their children will look like?

      Like a RAC cluster of Surface tablets? Ugh...

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Partnership of two dead cows...
    Really, who cares?

  • While some might liken the deal to the Empire joining up with the Trade Federation

    [Weasel Words][Citation Needed][Reference Makes No Sense [youtube.com]]

  • by blarkon (1712194)
    Microsoft has built an impressive new entrant to the Infrastructure-as-a-Service market, and Ubuntu is there for customers who want to run workloads on Azure that are best suited to Linux. Windows Azure was built for the enterprise market, an audience which is increasingly comfortable with Ubuntu as a workhorse for scale-out workloads; in short, it's a good fit for both of us, and it's been interesting to do the work to bring Ubuntu to the platform.

    Given that it's normal for us to spin up 2,000-node Hado
    • by cusco (717999)
      Probably why MS is building data centers as fast as they can pour concrete.
  • hrm, that would be a choice the shareholders would accept.

  • by gl4ss (559668) on Sunday June 23, 2013 @08:47AM (#44084307) Homepage Journal

    isn't it obvious?

    they already offer linux ffs..

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 23, 2013 @08:50AM (#44084313)

    So we're supposed to put business data into US based clouds? Have you missed the news?? Never heard of PRISM?

    For example Cloudera, Cloud based Hadoop cluster for businesses:
    http://www.cloudera.com/content/cloudera/en/home.html
    Backed with venture capital from....NSA... because terrorists something something

    http://www.crunchbase.com/company/cloudant
    The there's Cloudant, the database in the cloud, which got backing from VC company run by NSA

    Oh but my favorites are the always on video recording Looxcie and their sister company vidcie, Looxcie is a life cam you wear all the time that uploads your life to the cloud, and vidcie is a business video system, have those important business meetings using vidcie... back with NSA VC money, because terrorists do conference calls!
    http://www.looxcie.com/
    http://www.vidcie.com

    Seriously, nobody in their right minds is going to move any critical business data into the US cloud, when the NSA can (and does) grab it with secret warrants and their laws say they can do anything that's in US interests.

    Their VC company I-Q-Tel, clearly backs business cloud startups and now we know they grab US databases, its easy to see the purpose for trying to get companies to put their secret business data into the US cloud.

    Other VC choices:
    http://www.platfora.com/
    Datamining unstructured data. Remember the claim that NSA don't datamine the data? And yet we got the GCHQ leak showing GCHQ using NSA data mining software! This is a typical datamining company they sunk capital into.

    Connectify
    http://www.connectify.me/
    Wifi sharing software that reports back a lot of linkage info:
    "By using Connectify location based services, you authorize us to locate your hardware and to record, compile and display your location. As part of Connectify, we may also collect and store certain information about our users, such as, users’ wireless mobile subscriber ISDN and/or IMEI numbers (as applicable) and users’ network access identifier information.""

    3vr
    http://www.3vr.com/
    "3VR, the video intelligence company, enables organizations to search, mine and leverage video to bolster security".. more data mining.

    Their VC company is called InQTel:
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/10/exclusive-us-spies-buy-stake-in-twitter-blog-monitoring-firm

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 23, 2013 @09:08AM (#44084363)

      Wait a minute. I'm a manager, and I've been reading a lot of case studies and watching a lot of webcasts about The Cloud. Based on all of this glorious marketing literature, I, as a manager, have absolutely no reason to doubt the safety of any data put in The Cloud.

      The case studies all use words like "secure", "MD5", "RSS feeds" and "encryption" to describe the security of The Cloud. I don't know about you, but that sounds damn secure to me! Some Clouds even use SSL and HTTP. That's rock solid in my book.

      And don't forget that you have to use Web Services to access The Cloud. Nothing is more secure than SOA and Web Services, with the exception of perhaps SaaS. But I think that Cloud Services 2.0 will combine the tiers into an MVC-compliant stack that uses SaaS to increase the security and partitioning of the data.

      My main concern isn't with the security of The Cloud, but rather with getting my Indian team to learn all about it so we can deploy some first-generation The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.

      • Well, I'm a manager at Oracle and if our customers insist on putting their business data in "the cloud" I'm not going to miss the opportunity to take their money. Don't worry. We'll wrap it in so many layers of hard-to-use and slow-to-access that it won't be worth anybody's time to crack our state-of-the-art encryption.

        And in case our users lose access to their keys, don't worry. We'll have a key repository service. It will only cost $4595/user-year.

        Hope this helps.

      • Apparently humor and sarcasm are lost on the mods today, because right now, the parent is modded "3, Interesting." Wow...
        • Thanks for that, my head was starting to spin, and no matter how many times I checked the score was never marked "funny".
          • by Maow (620678)

            Thanks for that, my head was starting to spin, and no matter how many times I checked the score was never marked "funny".

            Odd, here's what I see for the score:


            Starting Score: 0 points
            Moderation +4
            30% Funny
            30% Underrated
            20% Insightful
            Extra 'Interesting' Modifier 0 (Edit)
            Total Score: 4

            NO Interesting votes cast, at all. Yet it sits at +4 Interesting.

            That, in itself, is interesting.

    • by Shavano (2541114)

      So we're supposed to put business data into US based clouds? Have you missed the news?? Never heard of PRISM?

      If you're a US-based business, that would seem to be best. According to the press, they don't snoop as much on internal traffic as they do on international traffic. It also means only one government can interfere with what you're doing and you only deal with one set of laws and there are no import-export issues regarding information. You won't inadvertently transfer technology out of the country, thereby violating US export restrictions, for instance. And latencies can be better.

      Regardless, the idea of

      • According to the press, they don't snoop as much on internal traffic as they do on international traffic.

        Ah yes, damning with faint praise.

    • My big question is of course - how do you know the CIA isn't already tapping the data in your network?

      I mean where I work we have infrastructure security people (3 of them!) but only one I've met seems to actually know anything about vulnerability vectors and actually knows how to parse access logs.

  • >"While some might liken the deal to the Empire joining up with the Trade Federation"

    They deserve each other. Might be a match made in heaven. Think of all the markets they can ruin together!

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Where finally all your ideas belong to Corporate America and the NSA has an all access card.

  • Desperation ... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Rambo Tribble (1273454) on Sunday June 23, 2013 @09:16AM (#44084399)
    ... doth make strange bedfellows, eh wot?
    • by roman_mir (125474)

      Oh yeah, an unholy alliance of two of my most favourite companies.... for when I want to have a nightmare.

  • Anything, anything which brings javascript closer to fluidity. Maybe Google should join too.
  • by Mister Liberty (769145) on Sunday June 23, 2013 @09:33AM (#44084463)

    Miracle

  • by Anonymous Coward

    reaches out to mediocrity.

  • It looks like it will be the rest of the industry versus Microsoft and Oracle. IBM, HP, Cisco, Red Hat and hundreds of smaller companies are getting behind OpenStack and Linux based infrastructure. At recent talks I've attended, Oracle and Microsoft were barely mentioned. The OS is Linux and the databases are mongodb, nosql.. No one is talking about MS/Oracle solutions except in a VMWare talk I attended a month ago, and even then it was mainly about licensing models. Oracle and Microsoft are in big danger o

  • Can't help but thinking on the "old farts" joke of George Carlin. Oracle and Microsoft while still successful in many areas, are getting far behind on many other areas and it's only because of this old man's way of thinking. They will become irrelevant on the cloud... if they are not already so
  • Microsoft + Oracle: the bad meets the ugly. But who is the bad and who is the ugly?
  • by fazey (2806709) on Monday June 24, 2013 @08:06AM (#44090943)
    It is definitely about time. Azure is terrible. Anyone who has ever tried to create an Image in Azure knows it is pure garbage. Microsoft blatantly disregarded the Open Virtualization Format standards, and created a VHD. Then even if you use HyperV to save your image, it doesn't necessarily mean its going to work. You still need the Windows Azure Agent. Then... if it still doesn't work. Good luck! Because there is no console to trouble shoot it.

    I have no idea what Oracles "cloud" looks like. But it can't be much worse than Azure.

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