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KDE Releases Frameworks 5 87

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KDE Community (3396057) writes The KDE Community is proud to announce the release of KDE Frameworks 5.0. Frameworks 5 is the next generation of KDE libraries, modularized and optimized for easy integration in Qt applications. The Frameworks offer a wide variety of commonly needed functionality in mature, peer reviewed and well tested libraries with friendly licensing terms. There are over 50 different Frameworks as part of this release providing solutions including hardware integration, file format support, additional widgets, plotting functions, spell checking and more. Many of the Frameworks are cross platform and have minimal or no extra dependencies making them easy to build and add to any Qt application. Version five of the desktop shell, Plasma, will be released soon, and packages of Plasma-next and KDE Frameworks 5 will trickle into Ubuntu Utopic over the next few days. There's a Live CD of Frameworks 5 / Plasma-next, last updated July 4th.
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 07, 2014 @07:05PM (#47403719)

    Congratulations to all the contributors, and thank you for all your hard work on this project!

    • by Anonymous Coward

      KDE and Qt are synonymous with C++. They prove that C++ is the best language around, because the best apps and GUI frameworks around are built using C++. KDE 5 is fast, it's stable, and it just plain great software to use, all thanks to C++.

      Then there's Gnome. They're still pissing around with C, JavaScript, and their homegrown Vala poopfest. And Gnome is a total disaster these days! That's what happens when you use inferior languages instead of a professional language like C++. C++ means your code is good,

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Are you *gasp* suggesting that we should use a programming language which requires proper attention span to write programs? No, no, no. I love my JavaScript frameworks, so easy to glue together and I'm off to drinking in no time.
      • by Kjella (173770)

        KDE and Qt are synonymous with C++. They prove that C++ is the best language around

        LOL, the only reason C++ is tolerable is Qt and only if you avoid screwing with resources yourself and let QObjects handle the mess, it's still full of leftover ugly from the 70s that neither Java, C# nor Swift choose to handle the same way. The problem is that creating a good language, a good compiler and a comprehensive system library (practically a must today IMO) is a huge job and without a big company like Sun/Oracle (Java), Microsoft (C#) or Apple (Swift) backing it you'll never get off the ground.

      • KDE and Qt are synonymous with C++. They prove that C++ is the best language around, because the best apps and GUI frameworks around are built using C++. KDE 5 is fast, it's stable, and it just plain great software to use, all thanks to C++.

        Then there's Gnome. They're still pissing around with C, JavaScript, and their homegrown Vala poopfest. And Gnome is a total disaster these days! That's what happens when you use inferior languages instead of a professional language like C++. C++ means your code is good, which means that your libraries and apps are good. Other languages mean that your code is bad, which means that your libraries and apps are bad.

        There's one lesson here and that is to use C++ if you want to have the greatest software known to humankind. C++ is where it's at, baby!

        Just be aware that a Plasma takes advantage of a lot of QML usage - e.g JavaScript. But yes, C++ plus Qt is a phenominal experience.

  • http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KDE_repositories#KDE_Frameworks_5_.26_Plasma_5 has the links to install KDE 5

  • by Anonymous Coward

    KDE 4 is fucking sweet. It was the nicest desktop env I've ever used. But then I tried KDE 5 this morning, and it isn't just fucking sweet, but it's fucking A, too. It makes KDE 4 look like shitty shit shit. KDE 5 is fast, it looks fab, and the apps are amazing. I haven't tried GNOME 3 in a long time, so I installed that today, too. Jesus H. Christ, it's still fucking horrible! It's slow, it looks like shit, and some of the apps would crash on me each time I tried to use them. I haven't had a KDE 4 app cras

  • That's the question I ask every time I see a new release of software these days. We seem to be going backwards fast.

    Capture: screwed

    How appropriate.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 07, 2014 @08:20PM (#47404079)

      KDE is probably the least dumbed down desktop environment there is.

      It's really massively customizable in ways suitable for power users.

      • by Burz (138833)

        Hmmm...

        1) No (working) color management

        2) Taskbar overinflates icons when its vertical (no more ability to control it since 4.x) and doesn't care what the panel's max icon size is set to.

        3) Taskbar switches between grouping and non-grouping, from minute to minute

        4) Very loose UI design leaves me less able to anticiapate how KDE will react to my input, and I can't tell it, for instance, to underline single-click widgets.

        5) Activities - A huge waste that detracted from bug fixes and design consistency, and ev

    • by KugelKurt (908765)

      What's been removed,dumbed down,made incompatible?

      You know this is a release of the Frameworks, right?
      Nothing has been dumbed down, kde3support is gone but other than that KF5 is mostly source-compatible with kdelibs4.

    • Capture. You mean Captcha? The thing that's as relevant as tea leaves and astrology?

      That there is no more meaning than the one you imbue?

      That random, unrelated, almost always irrelevant word jumble to which some posters ascribe meaning out of feelings very similar to religion and winning the lottery?

      Is that what you meant?

  • I remember the first time I compiled it at version 0.6.3 - It was a hopelessly pathetic win95 clone. I was sure it would go nowhere. Then the 1.0 [llu.is] release came along and it was clear it had a future. I don't much care for KDE myself, but I do note it's contribution.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      You've made an interesting observation. You see there's nothing wrong with the windows desktop. It was actually a good model so was the mac desktop. What did KDE allow you to do? Both. KDE can give you the same usability configuration as any desktop, whether it would be a windows, Mac or gnome desktop.

      I argue the threat to Microsoft has in never been specifically the Linux kernel. Its been the desktop. Its been KDE and to a lesser extent gnome.

      KDE is the desktop FRAMEWORK of the future and its here today.

      Th

  • It is a shame the KDE team don't make a bigger fan fair when announcing something like this, maybe some nice crisp screenshots of some of the graphical changes or a screencast (yes I have seen some of the youtube ones by others). Just a thought!
    • by blackpaw (240313)

      This isn't the new desktop shell (Plasma2? PlasmaNext?), its basically the libs behind it, so there are no screen shots per se.

      I must admit I find the new branding/naming conventions very confusing.

      • by Danious (202113)

        This isn't the new desktop shell (Plasma2? PlasmaNext?), its basically the libs behind it, so there are no screen shots per se.

        I must admit I find the new branding/naming conventions very confusing.

        Plasma Next is the internal codename for whatever is the next version of Plasma being worked on, you won't see it used in general publicity. After some discussion we decided to use 5 as the technical version number, but we will not emphasise it in the publicity.

        As someone already posted, this http://i.imgur.com/usfgJSF.png [imgur.com] sort-of explains it. It's simple really:

        * KDE = Entity that produces Free Software, like Mozilla or Microsoft or Google or Adobe
        * Frameworks / Plasma / Applications = Software 'products'

  • by Balinares (316703) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @04:46AM (#47405767)

    I've tried a lot of desktops over the years and always returned to KDE as the most able to be useful when I need it to and stay the fuck out of the way the rest of the time. (Unity, despite its reputation, is good at that too.) But the love was no longer really there. Like a favorite old workhorse that you just no longer really ride for the pleasure of it alone.

    So I've not kept track of KDE 5 developments, and honestly I expected to be way underwhelmed. It was, after all, supposed to be mainly a port of the same old thing to the new Qt 5.

    But I just tried the live CD linked in the article and, uh, whoa. It looks so *tidy*. Full of that orderly neatness that Gnome, for all its faults, has generally been better at than KDE. And I find myself excited for the first time in a long while, and that's a very nice feeling to rediscover.

  • I'm completely serious.

    I HATE KDE4. I still use Trinity wherever I can because that was the KDE that I liked.

    I don't care about what whiz bang technology went intro this. I don't care how many man years were invested. I don't care who else likes it. I will reserve judgement until I use it myself. If it's not as good as KDE3.5, I'll stick with Trinity.

    LK

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