Oracle Hasn't Killed Java -- But There's Still Time

snydeq (1272828) writes Java core has stagnated, Java EE is dead, and Spring is over, but the JVM marches on. C'mon Oracle, where are the big ideas? asks Andrew C. Oliver. 'I don't think Oracle knows how to create markets. It knows how to destroy them and create a product out of them, but it somehow failed to do that with Java. I think Java will have a long, long tail, but the days are numbered for it being anything more than a runtime and a language with a huge install base. I don't see Oracle stepping up to the plate to offer the kind of leadership that is needed. It just isn't who Oracle is. Instead, Oracle will sue some more people, do some more shortsighted and self-defeating things, then quietly fade into runtime maintainer before IBM, Red Hat, et al. pick up the slack independently. That's started to happen anyhow.'

JAVA EE is not dead.

[jaeztheangel]

With Lambda expressions in the last release, and the renewed focus on mobile - Java is awesome. For a language which forced Microsoft to up it's game with C#, and with Linux has stormed into taking over most of financial services - it's as least as alive as COBOL. Which - like Sarah Palin - cannot be killed and will not go away. Java has the Colbert of Languages. Wildly successful, despite being in a suit.

Re:"Anything more than a runtime and a language"

[Kenja]

Then what have I been drinking every morning?

Java = Mark Twain of programming languages

[Anonymous Coward]

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

Re:Java EE is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

Yep, NodeJS has pretty much taken over as the go-to language in enterprise development now.

Re:Oh noes!

[phantomfive]

Some random nobody proclaims death of Java.

He's not a random nobody. He's a strategic developer. The big ideas are the Cloud, NoSQL, and Big Data. You heard it from him first. Java needs to embrace them.

Re:Nobody kills Java

[ShanghaiBill]

That is dead to this crowd. 1/2 of them were probably in diapers in 2002!

Really? My impression is that Slashdot is mostly geezers.

Re:Oracle Forms

[Just Some Guy]

Ever heard of Mono?

Oh, that weird-ass thing that Miguel invented to try to drag the Linux crowd away from multi-vendor, vetted languages? Yeah, I've heard of it.

Re:Oracle Forms

[0123456]

That's the thing that runs a tiny subset of Windows C# programs, isn't it?

Re:Nobody kills Java

[osu-neko]

That is dead to this crowd. 1/2 of them were probably in diapers in 2002!

Really? My impression is that Slashdot is mostly geezers.

Being geezers and wearing diapers are not mutually exclusive.