Want to know how little our police/intelligence agencies seem to have learned from their failures prior to 9/11?
I'm afraid we don't need Black Hat/Defcon to tell us this. Just yesterday we had major terrorism alerts about specific targets and today we find out the information was all years old. Does that mean the buildings weren't targets still? Well seeing as some of the info went back prior to 9/11 it would make it seem a fairly safe bet that the seriousness of the threat was vastly overstated.
Yellow, yellow, orange, yellow, yellow, orange, yellow, RED RED WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, yellow, yellow...
Are we supposed to continually crap our shorts because they arbitrarily raise and lower some spurious "threat status?" Yea, there may even BE threats, but, you know what, they are at about the same level they've been at for the last 10 years or longer.
Hell, even the rednecks aren't panicing anymore, and it doesn't take much to get them going about "Terrorist Threats." I moved down to Georgia in 2002, from being in New Jersey, and working in NYC, and I had to continually bite my tongue to keep from laughing in the faces of all these people who were forever telling me, "It could happen right here." Well sure it could, but crashing a cropduster into a Waffle House isn't going to have the same kind of effect.
And if people down HERE are sick of it, I can only imagine what its like in the rest of the country. There are only so many times you can cry wolf, and still be believed.
Well sure it could, but crashing a cropduster into a Waffle House isn't going to have the same kind of effect.
That's a debatable point, actually, and I think you're being a bit of a bigot (and this is from a guy who sometimes wishes much of the "South" would slip off into another dimension).
If I were a terrorist, I'd be looking for the *least* likely targets. I might even just throw a dart at a map. One of the aspects of terror is to, well, terrorize, and an implementation of random "can happen anywhere
Please mod parent poster down. He's a Republican pushing the "Terrorist's for John Kerry" meme. It's disgusting that GOP members and supporters can stoop so low.
Wow. What a dumbass. I'm as far from the GOP as one can get, but an idiotlogical dumbass like you can't be bothered with reality, right? Did I even say which swing they would be trying for? I can see them WANTING Bush in power so they continue to have an excuse for attacking, dumbass. Kerry is an unknown to them, dumbass.
but crashing a cropduster into a Waffle House isn't going to have the same kind of effect.
As if GA lives have less value than NYC lives? C'mon. And I live in DC, fwiw. btw: we were hit too. Why is that always forgotten by New Yorkers?
And if you think it'd have less impact, riddle me this: what would happen to the US Economy if a crop duster flew into the Mall of America a week before Black Friday (the Friday after Thanksgiving Day; the busiest retail shopping day of the year).
Hmmm, I see that you lack appreciation of scale (i.e. That you compare the number of people who can fit into a waffle house, 30, with the number of people who died in the twin towers, 3000+), and that you confuse the Waffle House with one of the largest malls in the world.
First of all, I agree with you vis a vis the mall of america. It's a good target. Which is my point: for terrorism to occur and be effective, there must be a GOOD TARGET.
These massive, irresponsible blanket threats thrown around with ZER
And I live in DC, fwiw. btw: we were hit too. Why is that always forgotten by New Yorkers?
And why do Washingtonians always forget their city stops at the south bank of the boundary channel, just past the GW parkway, and that the Pentagon is in the Commonwealth of Virginia?
What police/intelligence agencies have learned. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm afraid we don't need Black Hat/Defcon to tell us this. Just yesterday we had major terrorism alerts about specific targets and today we find out the information was all years old. Does that mean the buildings weren't targets still? Well seeing as some of the info went back prior to 9/11 it would make it seem a fairly safe bet that the seriousness of the threat was vastly overstated.
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Re:What police/intelligence agencies have learned. (Score:3, Insightful)
What do you mean start to ignore terror alerts? I haven't listened to one since the beginning!
Cue the Herman Goering quote about keeping people in fear. . .
How could you? (Score:1, Flamebait)
Are we supposed to continually crap our shorts because they arbitrarily raise and lower some spurious "threat status?" Yea, there may even BE threats, but, you know what, they are at about the same level they've been at for the last 10 years or longer.
Hell, even the rednecks aren't panicing anymore, and it doesn't take much to get them going about "Terrorist Threats." I moved down to Georgia in 2002, from being in New Jersey, and working in NYC, and I had to continually bite my tongue to keep from laughing in the faces of all these people who were forever telling me, "It could happen right here." Well sure it could, but crashing a cropduster into a Waffle House isn't going to have the same kind of effect.
And if people down HERE are sick of it, I can only imagine what its like in the rest of the country. There are only so many times you can cry wolf, and still be believed.
Re:How could you? (Score:3, Insightful)
That's a debatable point, actually, and I think you're being a bit of a bigot (and this is from a guy who sometimes wishes much of the "South" would slip off into another dimension).
If I were a terrorist, I'd be looking for the *least* likely targets. I might even just throw a dart at a map. One of the aspects of terror is to, well, terrorize, and an implementation of random "can happen anywhere
Re:How could you? (Score:2)
It really depends.
If what you do is immediate, very visual and could happen anywhere then you have a good case.
But if its radiation in certain foods, which would only show years later, then it wouldn't have its "terrorist" effect.
Re:How could you? (Score:2)
Wow. What a dumbass. I'm as far from the GOP as one can get, but an idiotlogical dumbass like you can't be bothered with reality, right? Did I even say which swing they would be trying for? I can see them WANTING Bush in power so they continue to have an excuse for attacking, dumbass. Kerry is an unknown to them, dumbass.
Turn on a radio or a tel
Re:How could you? (Score:2)
but crashing a cropduster into a Waffle House isn't going to have the same kind of effect.
As if GA lives have less value than NYC lives? C'mon. And I live in DC, fwiw. btw: we were hit too. Why is that always forgotten by New Yorkers?
And if you think it'd have less impact, riddle me this: what would happen to the US Economy if a crop duster flew into the Mall of America a week before Black Friday (the Friday after Thanksgiving Day; the busiest retail shopping day of the year).
There goes Christma
Re:How could you? (Score:2)
First of all, I agree with you vis a vis the mall of america. It's a good target. Which is my point: for terrorism to occur and be effective, there must be a GOOD TARGET.
These massive, irresponsible blanket threats thrown around with ZER
Re:How could you? (Score:2)
And why do Washingtonians always forget their city stops at the south bank of the boundary channel, just past the GW parkway, and that the Pentagon is in the Commonwealth of Virginia?