Questions were asked about what "going over the line" meant. Assclowns like Crimethinc are exactly what you'd want to point at and say "that's what I'm talking about." Disagreeing with the government (or even just Republicans) is one thing, but going around encouraging people to vandalize websites/etc is something else.
Jesus. No wonder he looked like he was expecting to be arrested.
So the guy who spoke at Defconf and argued for giving those attending the Republicats convention a hard time. So what?
What surprised me is that the journalist did not have any problems with having the guy thrown out simply because the guy's speech was controversial. They justified censorship by stating that they had to stop him for his protection. Since when does a person in America have to abdicate his own personal responsibility and be protected in his person for his own speech?
He didn't just advocate "giving them a hard time". He advocated illegal activities. This is not, and never has been, protected speech. He advocates the restricing of their rights, specifically, destroying their property, and interfering with their ability to travel.
You do not have the right to interfere with the rights of others.
by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday August 03, 2004 @02:36PM (#9870508)
Do you care to explain why the KKK or the god-damned white supremacy groups remain legal?
It is not what you say (except as in the case of a crying fire in a crowded theater), it is what you do.
Unless you are foreigner, in which case,they can lock you away without access to counsel by declaring you an "enemy combatant". Ain't it lovely to live in the land of the free?
The KKK, and many white-supremacy groups, remain legal because they, unlike Crimethinc, are very careful not to openly advocate illegal activities. If any individual KKK member came out and gave a speech to the general public, in which he advocated stringing minorities up by their toes, they'd be prosecuted, too. The KKK has been around a long time, and unfortunately, they know how to toe the legal line.
Crimethinc (Score:5, Insightful)
Jesus. No wonder he looked like he was expecting to be arrested.
Who's the assclown? (Score:0)
What surprised me is that the journalist did not have any problems with having the guy thrown out simply because the guy's speech was controversial. They justified censorship by stating that they had to stop him for his protection. Since when does a person in America have to abdicate his own personal responsibility and be protected in his person for his own speech?
As far as I can tell from
Re:Who's the assclown? (Score:1)
You do not have the right to interfere with the rights of others.
Re:Who's the assclown? (Score:0)
It is not what you say (except as in the case of a crying fire in a crowded theater), it is what you do.
Unless you are foreigner, in which case,they can lock you away without access to counsel by declaring you an "enemy combatant". Ain't it lovely to live in the land of the free?
Re:Who's the assclown? (Score:1)
The KKK, and many white-supremacy groups, remain legal because they, unlike Crimethinc, are very careful not to openly advocate illegal activities. If any individual KKK member came out and gave a speech to the general public, in which he advocated stringing minorities up by their toes, they'd be prosecuted, too. The KKK has been around a long time, and unfortunately, they know how to toe the legal line.