The only company that's ever made me actually happy to use Microsoft's competing product instead. Now if only this self imposed isolation will convince everyone else to ditch Oracle SQL so i can stop supporting it =P
Except there are still a lot of shared web hosts that don't offer PostgreSQL; they offer only Oracle MySQL. Good luck getting shared hosts to ditch MySQL.
Except there are still a lot of shared web hosts that don't offer PostgreSQL; they offer only Oracle MySQL.
While its true that there are lots of shared hosting providers that don't offer PostgreSQL, there are also lots that do offer PostgreSQL. So if you want PostgreSQL you have options.
While its true that there are lots of shared hosting providers that don't offer PostgreSQL, there are also lots that do offer PostgreSQL.
That's fine if you know you'll be installing a particular web application on your hosting plan from day one. But if you're adding an application to an existing hosting plan, you have to use what you have unless the contract with your hosting provider is due for renewal very soon.
You only have yourself* to blame, for choosing a plan that won't give you options, when you should know you'd want them. Next time you switch providers get somebody that will help you instead of getting on your way.
* That "yourself", of course is corporationwise. That could mean your boss, or his boss, but it probably means you, because big corporations hardly use non-flexible hosting providers.
When I signed up for hosting, I had no idea in advance that I'd want to run a specific app that does not support PostgreSQL, only MySQL or MariaDB.
Not to mention that, while the margin is shrinking, there's quite a few generic FOSS web apps out there that either 1) continue to lack support for PostgreSQL or 2) have exceedingly shoddy support for it.
While he didn't say it, you could argue that tepples was alluding to the fact that crummy PHP apps are pretty much responsible for the reason why so many provide
Well, I'd say that when your current contract expires, you should look at somebody that offers both. Also, make sure you are not stuck at PHP... (Just a guess that you are using PHP here, but even if wrong, it applier to any language.)
There are plenty of providers that will offer you the most common options.
That's fine if you know you'll be installing a particular web application on your hosting plan from day one. But if you're adding an application to an existing hosting plan, you have to use what you have unless the contract with your hosting provider is due for renewal very soon.
No, if you are adding an application to an existing hosting plan, you have to use what you have by definition, regardless of contract terms (because if you switch plans, then you aren't adding the application to the existing hosting
My "unless the contract with your hosting provider is due for renewal very soon" referred to migration, your #3: transition costs become more bearable near the end of the contract. Your #2 is impossible due to the same origin policy if the services have to interact in certain ways. So this leaves application developers targeting site owners who are stuck in #1: "Use something that works with the existing plan". And in this market, where so many "existing plan[s]" lack PostgreSQL, that means adding support f
My "unless the contract with your hosting provider is due for renewal very soon" referred to migration, your #3: transition costs become more bearable near the end of the contract.
Right, but its not impossible, as you presented it originally, its an option with costs (just like choosing a less-suitable backed database is an option with costs), which have to be weighed against its benefits.
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Shared hosts will switch to MariaDB [mariadb.org] when it is necessary to do so.
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Oh I dunno. As I understand it, switching to MariaDB is dirt simple.
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While its true that there are lots of shared hosting providers that don't offer PostgreSQL, there are also lots that do offer PostgreSQL. So if you want PostgreSQL you have options.
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While its true that there are lots of shared hosting providers that don't offer PostgreSQL, there are also lots that do offer PostgreSQL.
That's fine if you know you'll be installing a particular web application on your hosting plan from day one. But if you're adding an application to an existing hosting plan, you have to use what you have unless the contract with your hosting provider is due for renewal very soon.
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You only have yourself* to blame, for choosing a plan that won't give you options, when you should know you'd want them. Next time you switch providers get somebody that will help you instead of getting on your way.
* That "yourself", of course is corporationwise. That could mean your boss, or his boss, but it probably means you, because big corporations hardly use non-flexible hosting providers.
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You only have yourself* to blame, for choosing a plan that won't give you options, when you should know you'd want them.
When I signed up for hosting, I had no idea in advance that I'd want to run a specific app that does not support PostgreSQL, only MySQL or MariaDB.
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Not to mention that, while the margin is shrinking, there's quite a few generic FOSS web apps out there that either 1) continue to lack support for PostgreSQL or 2) have exceedingly shoddy support for it.
While he didn't say it, you could argue that tepples was alluding to the fact that crummy PHP apps are pretty much responsible for the reason why so many provide
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Well, I'd say that when your current contract expires, you should look at somebody that offers both. Also, make sure you are not stuck at PHP... (Just a guess that you are using PHP here, but even if wrong, it applier to any language.)
There are plenty of providers that will offer you the most common options.
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No, if you are adding an application to an existing hosting plan, you have to use what you have by definition, regardless of contract terms (because if you switch plans, then you aren't adding the application to the existing hosting
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Right, but its not impossible, as you presented it originally, its an option with costs (just like choosing a less-suitable backed database is an option with costs), which have to be weighed against its benefits.