Jboss Release Open-Source EJB2 Server .

m1nat0r writes: "According to jboss home Jboss 3.0 with support for EJB2 and clustering is out of beta and available as a production quality J2EE app server. Mark Fleury and the team have ruffled many a feather to get the project this far but you have to hand it to them - Jboss is providing a very real alternative to the commercial server vendors. You would think that the recent changes in the JCP to accommodate open source J2EE implementations can only reinforce that position."

EJB2 Seems Good

[adamy]

Just wish I wasn't so far down the road with EJB1 Spec that I can't shift. JBoss has been great...although right now an O/R problem has me pulling my hair out.

the JMX stuff looks cool, and they've done great stuff with the hot deploy code, too. The development platform of choice for Java DB stuff.

Re:EJB2 Seems Good

[Anonymous Coward]

Just wish I wasn't so far down the road with EJB1 Spec that I can't shift. JBoss has been great...although right now an O/R problem has me pulling my hair out.

shift now, before wasting any more time. EJB2 CMP is so much better than EJB1 was, and JBossCMP so much easier than JAWS, that you'll make up for all the time you spent pulling hair out.

Re:EJB2 Seems Good

[melquiades]

although right now an O/R problem has me pulling my hair out

You should definitely look at CMP2, which doesn't suck nearly as much as CMP1.

Even more, you should look at JDO, which IMO is several miles beyond CMP in terms of flexibility, simplicity, and general usefulness. Instead of trying to solve all the EJB problems at once in the same object, as CMP does, it focuses on one problem -- object persistence -- and it's up to you to layer up your remote invocation, security, transaction boundaries, etc. Put your JDOs behind session beans, and you have a pretty comfortable alternative to messy ol' CMP.

Gee, been out a while

[David Frankenstein]

Uhh, JBoss 3.0.0 has been out since the end of May guys.... This news is a little stale.

JBoss is pretty nice and Jetty seems really tight compared to Tomcat. If only there were better docs...

Re:Gee, been out a while

[kurowski]

If only there were better docs...

there are [flashline.com].

Re:Gee, been out a while

[dthable]

Does anyone have these documents? I'm working on a project in JBoss and didn't know how good the paid documentation really is. Do they still leave a lot of information out or are they mostly complete?

Re:Gee, been out a while

[dthable]

I did a search at the local bookstores (Barnes and Noble and Borders included) but around here they don't carry that kind of stuff. I guess the one time charge is $10 (or at least is was). No great loss over $10. Still better that spending $1,000s on WebSphere only to be disapointed.

Re:Gee, been out a while

[jaaron]

I have all but the clustering documentation. They've been decent. Not perfect, but often better than nothing and worth the $10. However the SAMS book that you can get the preview for(at least the edition I got a little while ago) is for the 2.3 & 2.4 series, NOT 3.0. You can get 3.0 documentation at sourceforge [sourceforge.net] (look for the Quickstart pdf). Mostly I found the documentation was more for a serious programmer, not often good for someone new to J2EE. Also the 3.0 quickstart documentation is still in revision -- it's uncomplete. In general, when I need information, I check out the JBoss forums [jboss.org]. They're up and running again.

Re:Gee, been out a while

[galore]

it looks like those docs are for 2.4.5 only.

Re:Gee, been out a while

[kurowski]

i haven't read any of them but the JBossCMP docs, which are for 3.0.

Re:Gee, been out a while

[kurowski]

i bet if you emailed a jboss developer and said "i'll pay twice as much for an html version" they'd take you up on the offer.

J2EE Compatability Testing

[dthable]

Since the whole JCP issue, has anyone heard of Sun making efforts to J2EE certify the JBoss package? Not that I really care about the label. It would just be kinda fun to include that on a status report sometime....hey look, that free software I wanted to develop with is certified just like WebSphere.

sweet! Though we are still missing

[grimiore1]

a good EJB open-source or "free" development environment....Eclipse looks promising, but it seems it's still missing EJB support

with the risc of sounding like a freeloader

[cyborch]

I would like to actually have a chance to use this product and then be happy to donate some money to the people making it if i like it, but without the documentation I hardly stand a chance of getting it to work seamlessly in my environment or even configure it properly, so I cannot really test it... This may be an ugly side effect of open source projects, but I find myself wishing for shareware...

For non-free products try before you buy seemss very fair, but I cannot really try JBoss :(

Re:with the risc of sounding like a freeloader

[aussieaussieaussie]

I suggest you check out the Jboss site as I have subscribed to their documentation program and am very happy with the 400+ page manual that accompanies the product. This is how they are viable to the tune of more than $2Mill USD.