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OpenOffice.org: New Beta, and Ximianization 59

Posted by timothy from the moving-target dept.
sander writes "OpenOffice.org, everybody's favourite non-Microsoft office suite has just released a beta of its next version, OpenOffice.org 1.1. It's up for downloading , but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any cool screen shots anywhere???? The new release comes with a large variety of new features, from real goodies like Flash export for the slide shows , support for WYSIWYG DocBook/XML and mySQL databases to pretty boring ones like better footnotes (whatever that means)." And wahgnube writes "Here are the slides from Michael Meeks' presentation at the Open Office conference in Germany which give us details regarding the changes made by Ximian. Can't wait for the next major Ximian GNOME Desktop release."
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  • Whats in a title? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Froze ( 398171 ) on Wednesday March 26, 2003 @02:57PM (#5599075)
    Where is the info about ximinia... Ximimim... ximininia... Awww screw it!
  • It looks like Michael and his team have done great things with OO, and that the OO team has also made great improvements.

    Does anyone on either team want to comment on how many of the Ximian changes are in the OO 1.1 beta?
    • can I blame Michael for breaking the Windows installer?!?! ;)

    • Yeah, it really looks fantastic! I've gotten to the tire, boring stage in my life where I'm sick of headling with n number of apps on my desktop with n number of look and feels. I want consistency.

      I have Gnome2, I have Moz/GKT2, I'll soon have EMACS/GTK2, and perhaps now OO/GTK2.

      This might actually get me using it. If only they can improve the startup time as well..

      /mike
  • "support for WYSIWYG DocBook/XML and mySQL databases "

    I recently (over spring break) built a machine for my mother's workplace. She actually had a worker interested in Linux, and so she let me dual boot the machine with Red Hat 8 and Windows 2000.

    However, yesterday she sent me an email wondering where the Access-like program is in Red Hat. Honestly, I touched Access a little bit in some painful computer apps class I took a few years ago in high school, and never really had the need to do anything it's s
    • Look at gnome-db.org [gnome-db.org] they have information about Mergeant a Access like front end for database handling. With the integration from Ximian you won't know that it is not apart of openoffice.org, also you can then connect the database to oo.o

    • "However, yesterday she sent me an email wondering where the Access-like program is in Red Hat"

      The most Access-like linux offering that I've seen is Rekall [thekompany.com]. Not free, though. But there are Linux and Windows versions (the Windows one seems a bit unstable yet). It has tables, queries, reports, forms, very similar to Access.

      I never could get the OpenOffice/StarOffice database tools to work. They programs would just freeze when connecting to my Postgresql databases...

  • Ack, now I'm getting all confused.

    I thought Ximian had committed themselves to Gnome Office [gnome.org]. Now I'm very happy to see their work on OpenOffice.

    With all due respect to the Gnome Office people, I'd much rather that developers commit themselves to a more fully integrated, cross-platform, OSS office suite like OpenOffice.org then something that only runs a system with GTK & Linux.

    Sure, Abiword is cross-platform, but Gnumeric [gnome.org] isn't, and neither are many other components in the Gnome Office Suite.
  • Good news for open source zelots everywhere. I was beginning to wonder what was happening with OOo. Since the grapevine had been quite for some time I didn't think much development work was going on.

    Kudos for everyone involved. I look forward to the full release with bated breath. There are a number of niggles and annoyances that were really beginning to get to me, thankfully they appear to be addressed in the new version.

    One feature I would like to see would be some form of "talkback" a-la Mozilla.
    • One feature I would like to see would be some form of "talkback" a-la Mozilla.

      I think Ximian agrees with you, on Slide 15 [gnome.org], they talk about integration with Bug Buddy.

      But I'm guessing that won't extend to the non-Gnome versions...
  • I like OpenOffice. I use it on the primary Win box at home and the linux laptop. But dear God I must have offended some deity because not only will it only run as root for me (on Linux, obviously) but the thing takes several minutes to boot up, if I'm lucky! Sometimes it just complains about missing some printer related binaries (that I can't ever find to get installed) and crashes completely. Once up, though, it stays up, so that's a goodness.
    • I had that problem a while ago.

      What I found is that there is a switch you have to pass the installer. I forget what it is exactly, something like ./setup \net. I remember it being a kinda weird one, but I'm not at my linux box right now, so I can't check.

      Try ./setup --help, maybe that will give you the proper switch.

      I think that after you run the installer with that switch, you need to do a ./setup with each user that will be running OOo.

      Either way, once I got that figured out, OOo worked nicely for a
      • I forget what it is exactly, something like ./setup \net.

        setup -net

        It allows NFS and OpenOffice to be very good friends.
      • I use the one packaged in Mandrake 9.0. It can be run by ordinary user without worrying about that kind of stuff.
        The funny thing is: I have to execute it twice in order to begin working with it. The first try will show the splash screen then died without error messages. The second try usually load successfully and I have not experience any trouble / data loss once its up and running.
  • Can anyone tell me what is meant on page 14 of the slideshow by:
    "MS the default format"
    • I took this to mean that the file formats are saved in MS office format by default, rather than OO format. Just a guess though.

      Slide shows without presentation text are always cryptic -- especially when they end with quotes from Job.
  • just downloaded the beta and dispite the lack of any visual improvements they did get the load time from over 5 secconds to around 2. ;)
  • I've tried to install the last two OS X releases with no luck. Last time it installed some required libraries and then hung on the main part; this time it hung upon opening and had to be kill -9'd from a terminal. (Go Unix underpinnings!)p.Not quite sure what to put in a bug report since I'm not sure what the expecte installer behavior is.
    • If you go to the OOO OS X page, download the program, and make sure you read the whole page and have the right things in the right places, it works fine. I'm running 10.2.4 on a PBG4 800 btw.
  • A reason why 1.0 got kicked off my PC within days after the install was the total lack of support for crossreferences. I was nearly converted to Open Office until I tried to insert a reference to some numbered section in my document. There was just no way to do it. I checked the documentation, helpfiles, web forums, newsgroups and eventually I discovered that this feature was simply not implemented.

    In Latex, word, wordperfect, framemaker etc. you can insert a reference to e.g. section numbers, figure numb
  • from real goodies like Flash export for the slide shows..... to pretty boring ones like better footnotes (whatever that means).

    Uh, yeah. Like what do footnotes mean, when we can have pretty Flash Animation .

    Sometimes it's embarassing to admit associating with some of the people who frequent this site.
    • Uh, yeah. Like what do footnotes mean, when we can have pretty Flash Animation .

      Actually, this isn't such a bad feature. For small new tech/software companies looking for investors, this makes lives that much easier. Most of the time, investors want to see HyperCard-like presentations (a la OO Impress and MS PowerPoint) for high-level concepts, spreadsheets/text documents (OO Calc, OO Writer) for financials and business plans, and Flash stuff for demos. I know this doesn't make a lot of sense (i.e., why

  • Flash (Score:2)

    by hey! ( 33014 )
    OK, so where does it actually say that Flash export exists? So far as I can see it's only at the stage of being talked about as a future feature.
    • You must have been looking at something that's about a year old. A year ago, we were just talking about it. Now it exists :) It mentions it on the "Features" page. To use it, open a presentation and select File->Export. We do not currently export animations, but that is something that we want to add for 1.1 final.
  • Unlike all the other office software that looks beautiful and sexy, Openoffice looks like a trashy prostitute. ;)
  • The promise of Mr. Project is cool, but it seems that everytime I try to install a gnome application (SuSE 8.1) I get caught up in dependency hell... Will MrProject be ported to OpenOffice? Are there any other MS Project alternatives in the open source world that are fairly feature complete?
  • I can't wait. Have you seen the OO bonobo demo? It's wickedly sweet.

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