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New GNAT IDE Released 23

McDoobie writes "Ada Core Technologies has released their new GPS Integrated Development Environment for download. It's intended to be a professional-grade development environment along the lines of Microsoft Visual C++ or Sun's Forte. You can grab it at http://libre.act-europe.fr/gps/. Check it out. You might like it."
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New GNAT IDE Released

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  • whoops (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 21, 2003 @01:44AM (#6488887)
    "C/C++ support is not complete"

    A natural Visual C++ competitor!
  • by RedDork ( 147298 ) on Monday July 21, 2003 @02:16AM (#6488965)
    If only we had this when I was an undergraduate learning to program on Ada. Instead we were thrown into the mysteries of vi and ADA at the same time, with no hint of the existence of such a thing as an IDE or even a text editor that behaved in some way related to what we were used to. Nothing like learning to program on a language that won't let you compile if you have a few spaces in the wrong place, and a text editor that is even more baffling at first glance. My lab TA thought I was a natural programmer since I was always done first. In actuality, I was the first person to figure out that we had ftp access and to download then damn files and edit it on windows . I'm sorry, but vi never made any sense to me. Maybe that's why I'm in law school now
    • the language of the law is no more readable than most languages of computer programming.
    • Re:wow, finally! (Score:2, Interesting)

      actually, it's not too poor of a programming language, at least as of Ada95 it wasn't. it's fairly tolerant of white space and is not case sensitive. it protects you from going outside arrays and similar programming glitches that are easy to miss and easily crash your program. it also handles multi-threaded programs very easily. finally, if there is something you want to do at a low level, or if you want to use C, it's fairly easy to turn off the protections or import a chunk of code.

      as far as editing
    • Ha, you think you had it bad? Back when I was in college, after trudging through 2 miles of snow (ok, sand - I went to UCSD) we had to "hand compile" our Ada code into Pascal because the Prof's super special Ada compiler used to crash the VAX (this was 1987, I think). We all gave up and just made the Pascal work and then "disassembled" it into Ada. What a waste of time.
    • Re:wow, finally! (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      You mean you had a class on ADA??? We never had any such thing...just assignments and concept classes. You taught yourself whatever language you felt like to do the project. But, of course, that made us all very good programmers because we had to learn how to learn as well as how to learn from each other.

      ADA had some good concepts, but didn't take away the main reason programmers made crashy programs with C and ADA: nobody wants to plan their data ahead of time. I don't want to worry about whether the
  • by ivi ( 126837 )
    I wonder if their acronym is there to increase
    the number of hits, for reasons beyond me, from
    the users/developers of GPS (Global Positioning
    Systems) with rather different semantics...?
    • I couldn't agree more, its not like GPS (the nav system) is some obscure thing that no ones ever heard of.
      What kind of retard would give their project a name that so easily confuses it something completely unrelated.
      • Ummm....It's an acronym for "GNAT Compilation System" .

        It's more than just an IDE.
        • I think you mean "GNAT Programming System."

          But why then did they choose those three words?
          Why not something that abbreviated to something less common?
          What about GPE (GNAT Programming Environment) a simple one word change, though there are still other GPE projects.
          If you go beyond three letters you could use GNATAPS "GNAT Advanced Programming System." which gives zero results from google.

          The big problem with using an acronym as common as GPS is when people start trying to search for help from other website
          • I think you mean "GNAT Programming System."

            Yes I do. Sorry. Was in a bit of a rush.

            As to why they picked "GPS", you'd have to ask them.

            They could have used GNU Ada Programming Environment too I suppose. I suppose theres a dozen other combinations they could have went with also. Maybe GPS is quicker to type. Heh.

            McDoobie
  • Wow... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Randolpho ( 628485 ) on Monday July 21, 2003 @09:45AM (#6490398) Homepage Journal
    Lots of nifty features.I especially like the version control options (not just CVS, but several others, apparently), the program entities graph, and the call graph. Very nifty tools; if only I could get them on eclipse! :)
  • Dev-C++ [sourceforge.net] is an open source IDE worth trying.
    • by leifm ( 641850 )
      I like Dev-C++ a lot. I am taking C++ in school this semester and have been using it because I have no access to VC++ at work, and it's great. Actually as far as I can tell if you aren't doing C++ dev that is Windows specific there would be no reason to choose VC++ over Dev-C++.
    • by __past__ ( 542467 ) on Monday July 21, 2003 @12:26PM (#6491775)
      For some reason, I doubt that Dev-C++, "a full-featured IDE for Win32" would be a good alternative when you are looking for a cross-platform Ada IDE.
  • I really hate non-standard GUIs -- I want everything to look and feel like the host platform and this IDE definitely does not. Also, as others have noted, C/C++ is not yet supported. Otherwise it seems pretty impressive.
  • by PaulBu ( 473180 ) on Monday July 21, 2003 @07:41PM (#6495476) Homepage
    ... after all, syntactically VHDL is an Ada derivative.

    It would be an interesting thing for them to
    expand into an open-source VHDL design tool.

    Remember, now for a $100-$200 one can buy an FPGA
    evaluation board from, say, Xilinx, they would
    give you a (closed-source, I guess) compiler to
    compile from VHDL to an FPGA bin file, you load
    that into the board through a parport and here it
    is, fully custom electronic gadget!

    Paul B.
    • I beleive Ada Core Technologies does provide tools for some aspects of VHDL design. I think thier commercial GPS offering has tools that support this. I'm not certain though. You'd have to e-mail them for specifics.

      GPS does offer extensive support for controlling the details of the compile/link process, which I assume is important for the VHDL arena.

      McDoobie

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