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Time's Up: 2^30 Seconds Since 1970 675

An anonymous reader writes: "In Software glitch brings Y2K deja vu, CNET points out a small wave of Y2K-like bugs may soon hit, though it gets the explanation wrong. It will soon be about 2^30 (1 billion, not 2 billion) seconds since 1970 (do the arithmetic). Systems that use only 29 bits of a word for unsigned/positive integers, or store time as seconds since 1970 in this format, may roll back to 1970. (Many systems that do not need full 32 bit integers may reserve some bits for other uses, such as boolean flags, or for type information to distinguish integers from booleans and pointers.)"
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Time's Up: 2^30 Seconds Since 1970

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  • Yay! (Score:5, Funny)

    by jargoone ( 166102 ) * on Sunday December 21, 2003 @07:59PM (#7782362)
    This is the biggest computer-related time event since Y2K, which begun on January 1, 19100!
  • OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by elite lamer ( 533654 ) <harveyswick@hotm ... inus threevowels> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:01PM (#7782371) Homepage Journal
    SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT WILL COLLAPSE!!!! I have to get bottled water and batteries ready! This will be a complete disaster--just like Y2K!
  • by digital bath ( 650895 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:01PM (#7782372) Homepage
    y2.003k?

    ...Run for the hills!
  • by twoslice ( 457793 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:02PM (#7782377)
    My two-bit computer ran out of time the moment it was turned on...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:03PM (#7782384)
    With some of the fashion's today (bell bottems, et al.)
  • yawn (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:03PM (#7782386)
    this has been a problem since 1970. is it news that c-net realizes it?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:05PM (#7782401)
    If 1K = 1024 then Y2K is 2048. We still have a ways to go on that one! :)
  • by Dreadlord ( 671979 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:05PM (#7782407) Journal
    ...is 2.6 affected by the bug??
  • Re:OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by HillBilly ( 120575 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:06PM (#7782414)
    You forgot the plastic sheets and duct tape. Don't forget to seal yourself in an airtight room.
  • OMG (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kludge ( 13653 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:08PM (#7782429)
    I was born just before 1970.
    I'm a billion seconds old.

    Holy shit.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:08PM (#7782430)
    How many of you programmers are storing your years using 4 digits? Yeah, that's what I thought, all of you. What happens when it's January 1, 10000? Hmmm? Yes, that's right, your software will fail. It will roll back to 0, which wasn't even a year!

    Now, I know what you're thinking. "There's no way someone will be using software I'm writing 8000 years from now." Yeah, and that's what programmers said 30 years ago about the year 2000. Be smart, and play it safe. Use a 5, or better yet, 10 digit year. What's a few bytes?
  • deja vu? (Score:5, Funny)

    by fatgraham ( 307614 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:09PM (#7782437) Homepage
    IIRC, bugger all went wrong. No nuclear weapons randomly fired off in any direction, no computers melted (well, none of mine)
  • Y2K (Score:5, Funny)

    by KrispyKringle ( 672903 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:09PM (#7782441)
    I remember this. Talk about hype. I stumbled across a preparedness website a year or two later (one like this [qouest.net]) and laughed my ass off. Talk about a throwback to 1999 (notice the animated gifs and scolling text in the status-bar that lend a real air of authority). I think I even e-mailed the writer and asked if he did't feel stupid now.

    There was no reply, though. His computer probably thought my letter was from a century ago.

  • Re:RTFA (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:11PM (#7782451)
    So if your still using UnixWare, you may be in trouble.

    So that means Linux is affected also, since its mostly copied from Unixware, right?
  • by scdeimos ( 632778 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:11PM (#7782454)
    Its epoch is midnight 01-Jan-1904 and it uses an unsigned 32-bit integer to count seconds since then. That means it will run out at 06:28:15 09-Feb-2040.

    But, I'm sure Apple will have released a new Newton by then! :P

    (I don't suppose anyone's ported the Rosetta writing recognition system to other PDA's, just in case?)
  • by twoslice ( 457793 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:14PM (#7782469)
    I plenty left over from Y2K. For those who did not prepare for Y2K and laughed at all the suckers who stockpiled and hid in bunkers, Ha! I will finally have the last laugh! - going into my bunker now....
  • Re:OMG (Score:4, Funny)

    by Kludge ( 13653 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:14PM (#7782474)
    That's 1 quintillion nanoseconds!
  • Re:RTFA (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:28PM (#7782557)
    Thanks for you're advice, which I will follow from now on.
  • by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) * on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:30PM (#7782571)
    Can you roll over?
  • For Example (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:31PM (#7782579)
    Parametric Technologies has this problem [ptc.com]. Seems they were trying to insert the year 2038 bug into their code, but the messed up and got the year 2004 bug instead.
  • by Roofus ( 15591 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:38PM (#7782627) Homepage
    You bought a Packard Bell too then huh?
  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:40PM (#7782634)
    I don't know about you, but after 1/1/2000, I went back to using 2 digits.
  • Re:OMG (Score:3, Funny)

    by tomstdenis ( 446163 ) <tomstdenis@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:46PM (#7782663) Homepage
    That wasn't very polite. Take it back or we're not friends anymore.

    Tom
  • by Yaa 101 ( 664725 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:52PM (#7782698) Journal
    Nah, why take away the thrill and jobs of our childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens, childrens,childrens,childrens,childrens,children?
  • So.... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Coppit ( 2441 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:58PM (#7782731) Homepage
    So does this mean we can sue SCO if our systems crash?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @08:59PM (#7782740)
    maybe a midlife crisis is just our internal clocks rolling over.
  • by strange_harlequin ( 633866 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:04PM (#7782762) Homepage

    Nah... no way will any of these systems still be in use in 30 years time...

  • by civilizedINTENSITY ( 45686 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:10PM (#7782787)
    bash-2.05b$ perl -e 'print "seconds left: ", ((2**30) - time), "\n"' seconds left: 1686570 bash-2.05b$ octave GNU Octave, version 2.1.44 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu). Copyright (C) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 John W. Eaton. This is free software; see the source code for copying conditions. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; not even for MERCHANTIBILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. For details, type `warranty'. Please contribute if you find this software useful. For more information, visit http://www.octave.org/help-wanted.html Report bugs to . octave:1> 1686570/60/60/24 ans = 19.520
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:13PM (#7782805)
    There was once a COBOL programmer in the mid to late 1990s. He became a private consultant specializing in Year 2000 conversions. He was working 70 and 80 and even 90 hour weeks and travelled through 20 different countries, but it was worth it.

    Several years of this relentless, mind-numbing work had taken its toll on Jack. He had problems sleeping and began having anxiety dreams about the Year 2000. He must have suffered some sort of breakdown. Jack decided to contact a company that specialized in cryogenics. He made a deal to have himself frozen until March 15th, 2000. This was very expensive process and totally automated. The next thing he would know is he'd wake up in the year 2000; after the New Year celebrations and computer debacles; after the leap day. Nothing else to worry about except getting on with his life.

    He was put into his cryogenic receptacle, the technicians set the revive date, he was given injections to slow his heartbeat to a bare minimum, and that was that. The next thing that Jack saw was an enormous and very modern room filled with excited people. They were all shouting "I can't believe it!" and "It's a miracle" and "He's alive!". There were cameras (unlike any he'd ever seen) and equipment that looked like it came out of a science fiction movie. Someone who was obviously a spokesperson for the group stepped forward. Jack couldn't contain his enthusiasm. "It is over?" he asked. "Is 2000 already here? Are all the millennial parties and promotions and crises all over and done with?"

    The spokesman explained that there had been a problem with the programming of the timer on Jack's cryogenic receptacle, it hadn't been year 2000 compliant. It was actually eight thousand years later, not the year 2000. But the spokesman told Jack that he shouldn't get excited; someone important wanted to speak to him.

    Suddenly a wall-sized projection screen displayed the image of a man that remarcably looked very much like Bill Gates. This man was Prime Minister of Earth. He told Jack not to be upset. That this was a wonderful time to be alive. That there was world peace and no more starvation. That the space program had been reinstated and there were colonies on the moon and on Mars. That technology had advanced to such a degree that everyone had virtual reality interfaces which allowed them to contact anyone else on the planet, or to watch any entertainment, or to hear any music recorded anywhere.

    "That sounds terrific," said Jack. "But I'm curious. Why is everybody so interested in *me*?"

    "Well," said the Prime Minister. "The year 10000 is just around the corner, and it says in your files that you know COBOL...."
  • Re:OMG (Score:3, Funny)

    by rampant mac ( 561036 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:14PM (#7782812)
    Don't feel bad.

    It goes both ways.

    If your a Christian, you're, like, 15 minutes old.

  • by mcpkaaos ( 449561 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:30PM (#7782880)
    How is this in any way better than a 64-bit integer???

    Maybe because XML is easier to deal with in Visual Basic than 64 bit ints? =P
  • by coleca ( 447414 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:31PM (#7782885) Homepage
    "It's such a simple flaw; we don't believe it requires extensive testing to deploy the patches," he [PTC spokesman Joe Gavaghan] said.

    That's an excellent plan! Nothing bad has ever come from that train of thought before.

    In future news, PTC spokesman Joe Gavaghan is now working for Microsoft's Security division.
  • by meowsqueak ( 599208 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:33PM (#7782894)
    Nooooooo!!
  • by balloonhead ( 589759 ) <doncuan.yahoo@com> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:34PM (#7782896)
    You mean they'll be going for a pint after work?

    That's not a bad thing, unless you mean they'll be using those crazy american pints (12 Oz?) rather than proper wholesome British pints (16 Oz I think).

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:35PM (#7782902)
    After consulting with marketing, the apocalypse has been moved up to 2K = 2000.
  • by chickenwing ( 28429 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:38PM (#7782911) Homepage
    Hmm, it seems that the date that a system's clock overflows is inversely proportional to the date that the system has outlived its usefulness
  • Re:OMG (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:38PM (#7782914)
    I'm a billion seconds old.

    Not any more...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:42PM (#7782928)
    People who use Excel on purpose need to be sterilized.
  • by mabu ( 178417 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:43PM (#7782934)
    In case you haven't figured out, we are now a reactive society as opposed to proactive. We fix things, or usually replace them, when they break, not before. Americans don't think much about the future beyond what's on television later that day.

    Yes, we could fix the bug now. Likewise, we could also address world hunger, the deficit, the exploding crime problem, terrorism and a host of other issues with such cautious, preventative measures, but doing so wouldn't give us the instant gratification we desire now, so we'll let your children deal with the deficit, crime, terrorism, poverty, hunger and the time bug. We have better things to do. I'd write more, but I think "Friends" is coming on.
  • by wackybrit ( 321117 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:49PM (#7782957) Homepage Journal
    You expect to have twenty generations of descendents by 2034? Ooh ooh I got it! You're from Alabama, right?
  • Re:RTFA (Score:4, Funny)

    by Blkdeath ( 530393 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:50PM (#7782963) Homepage
    And you managed to spell "grammar" incorrectly...

    It's a long-standing rule of Fight-O-Net / UselessNet / Slice'n'DiceDot that when one attempts to correct the grammer or speling of another, invariably they themselves will make a misteak.

    If for no other reason, of course, than the fact it doubles the fun of language police.

  • by grazzy ( 56382 ) <(ten.ews.ekauq) (ta) (yzzarg)> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:55PM (#7782987) Homepage Journal
    BTW, I built a 3/3/3333 into a program that I wrote for a company.

    That does NOT count as a sufficient documentation of the above feature!
  • Re:RTFA (Score:3, Funny)

    by cpeterso ( 19082 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @09:56PM (#7782995) Homepage

    thank you Unix for combining data and error conditions into one convenient return value!
  • Re:Damn... (Score:2, Funny)

    by kiwirob ( 588600 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:06PM (#7783028) Homepage
    I used to do a bit of COBOL, but also have cut my teath with a few years experience with S370 Assembler. I could probably earn good money with that too. But I'm not sure i WANT to!!!
  • Re:yup... (Score:2, Funny)

    by Lord of Ironhand ( 456015 ) <arjen@xyx.nl> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:11PM (#7783052) Homepage
    > http://maul.deepsky.com/%7Emerovech/2038.html

    That page is worth visiting for the disclaimer alone:

    "PUBLIC NOTICE AS REQUIRED BY LAW: Any use of this Web page, in any manner whatsoever, will increase the amount of disorder in the universe. Although no liability is implied herein, the consumer is warned that this process will ultimately lead to the heat death of the universe."
  • I have one! (Score:5, Funny)

    by soloport ( 312487 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:21PM (#7783092) Homepage
    I shorted A31 to ground with a screwdriver on my Motorola MC68060 board. It blew a pullup resistor on an open collector output driver. Now A31 is always low -- and I'm too lazy to replace the tiny little 100 ohm surface mount. It runs just fine as long as I don't address high memory.

    I just want to know: Does that count?
  • Re:RTFA (Score:4, Funny)

    by Theatetus ( 521747 ) * on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:24PM (#7783097) Journal
    misteak

    mmmm.... misteak....

  • Re:RTFA (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:32PM (#7783128)
    Daryl?
  • Re:Y2K (Score:2, Funny)

    by InnovativeCX ( 538638 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:34PM (#7783141)

    Just for kicks, I decided to run the tool linked on that site. Turns out I'm in for some trouble (?).
    Output from my Windows notebook:

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Scott>"C:\Documents and Settings\Scott\Desktop\y2k.exe "
    Y2K by Harlend Computer Services . Copyright (C) 1998-1999.

    This copy of Y2K has NOT been registered for installation.

    Checking your Windows configuration ...

    Testing the O/S clock ...
    Failed

    Testing the BIOS clock ...

    Good news! The BIOS in this PC will roll over properly into the
    New Millennium, and correctly recognises 2000 as a leap year.


    It seems that though this system, made in 2001 is just fine. Windows XP, with a service pack from just a few months ago, is still not Y2K compliant. Maybe this is the reason GoLive keeps crashing and my popcorn does not fully pop.
  • Re:OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by kurosawdust ( 654754 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @10:43PM (#7783178)
    I have to get bottled water and batteries ready!

    Calm down, man! Look, society might collapse or it might not - either way, that's no reason to down some kind of odd suicide cocktail.

  • by shadowcabbit ( 466253 ) * <cx AT thefurryone DOT net> on Sunday December 21, 2003 @11:06PM (#7783264) Journal
    A girl once told me she wouldn't go out with me until the end of time.

    Sally Roberts, pucker up.
  • Re:OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by operagost ( 62405 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @11:23PM (#7783354) Homepage Journal
    Duct tape and WD-40... sounds like a redneck toolbox. Duct tape makes things stick, WD-40 makes them come apart. What else do you need?
  • Re:RTFA (Score:3, Funny)

    by unitron ( 5733 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @11:34PM (#7783415) Homepage Journal
    Uh, no. 'Effect' means the result of some 'affection'.

    I thought it was pregnancy that was the result of some 'affection'.

  • by siskbc ( 598067 ) on Sunday December 21, 2003 @11:44PM (#7783469) Homepage
    This is the biggest computer-related time event since Y2K, which begun on January 1, 19100!

    In standard /. fashion, I will overlook factual inaccuracies in the interest of pursuing my goal of correcting everyone's grammar. As such, I must tell you that Y2K *began* on January 1, 19100.

  • by multipartmixed ( 163409 ) * on Monday December 22, 2003 @12:14AM (#7783605) Homepage
    > I think it'd be much nicer if the language could handle Perl-style returning of arrays.

    The guy who posted above you 8 minutes earlier already understood the solution: return a damned pointer!

    Why, oh why, is this so hard to understand? Here, I will provide a contrived, stupid example.

    #define MIN_CHEST 25 /* waif, indeed! */
    #define MAX_CHEST 55 /* no jogging allowed */
    #define MIN_WAIST 19 /* guiness record */
    #define MAX_WAIST 65 /* doorway limitation */

    typedef enum { brown, blue, red, blonde, blue, cmax } colour_t;

    typedef struct
    {
    char *name; /* name of girl */
    size_t waist; /* diameter of waist */
    size_t chest; /* diameter of chest at most interesting offset */
    size_t hips; /* measure are the hips, don't get distracted, you naughty tailor */
    colour_t hair; /* it's good to hold on to! */
    colour_t eyes; /* if they can't see it, they can't suck it */
    } girl_t;

    typedef struct
    {
    size_t count;
    girl_t *girls;
    } girl_array_t;

    void mempanic()
    {
    write(STDOUT_FILENO, "oh oh\n", 6);
    _exit(1);
    }

    girl_t *createAllGirls()
    {
    girl_array_t *girlArr = calloc(sizeof(*girlArr), 1);
    char name[64];
    size_t waist, chest, hips;
    colour_t hair, eyes;

    if (!girlArr)
    mempanic();

    for (waist = MIN_WAIST; waist girls = realloc(girlArr->girls, sizeof(*(girlArr->girls)) * (girlArr->count + 1));
    if (!girlArr->girls)
    mempanic();
    sprintf(name, "chick #%i", girlArr->count + 1);
    girlArr->girls[girlArr->count].waist = waist;
    girlArr->girls[girlArr->count].chest = chest;
    girlArr->girls[girlArr->count].hips = hips;
    girlArr->girls[girlArr->count].eyes = eyes;
    girlArr->girls[girlArr->count].hair = hair;
    girlArray->count++
    }
    return girlArray;
    }

    There. Everything you need. A single return value, a dynamic sized array of structs. And girls.

    Of course, I didn't test it. But if you really need girls that bad, let me know and I'll make sure it builds.

    Now, this is just some text to avoid the lameness filter. Doo dah. Tobacco use during pregnancy increases the risk of preterm birth. abies born preterm are at an increased risk of infant death, illness and disability. Health Canada.

    L'usage du tabac pendant la grossesse accroit le risque d'un accouchement premature. Les bebes prematures font face a des risques plus grands de mort infantile, de maladies et d'incapacites. Sante Canada.

    Okay. Maybe I'll de-indent my code. Stupid piece of shit.Meta-control-Q should fix that.. Oh great! Now I need more characters per line. Comments, here I come...
  • by haxorest ( 724387 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @12:15AM (#7783609)
    Though a 2 bit computer would be rather limited.

    So just what kind of a two-bit operation are you running here?

  • by JamesOfTheDesert ( 188356 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @12:22AM (#7783631) Journal
    Now, if you can explain why Excel users, and not Word or outLook users need to be sterlized, then go right ahead.

    Um, not to be quarrelsome or anything, but I'm not sure sure you'll find anyone here willing to make that distinction.

    Present company execpted, of course. :)

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 22, 2003 @12:41AM (#7783705)
    I love you. Seriously, and not the "I won't get it in your eye" type of love, this is the real thing.
  • by soulsteal ( 104635 ) <soulsteal@@@3l337...org> on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:19AM (#7783858) Homepage
    How fitting that the time of a crash would be L337.

    I mean 13:37.
  • by stephens_domain ( 679473 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:45AM (#7783946)
    You want to correct everyone's grammar on slashdot?

    I've heard some lofty goals, but this goes to a whole new level.
  • by LouisvilleDebugger ( 414168 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:46AM (#7783949) Journal
    The Y2K preparedness team at my company went crazy over the hype. They set up a big "Y2K Command Center" (commandeered a big teleconferencing room) with PCs full of nothing but Excel spreadsheets with all the functionality metrics for our whole enterprise painstakingly listed. Every ten minutes, all of us in the trenches were supposed to telephone this "command center" so they could update their spreadsheets (yes, web site "foobar" is still responding, yes, this database still works.)

    About 30 minutes before Y2K hit our time zone, I noticed the maintenance guys firing up the big diesel backup generators in our rear parking lot. I asked my boss about it. "Oh yeah," he said, "They're going to take us off the power grid just in case." No big deal to us: we have UPS's on all our PCs, and the power fails over all the time in the always-spectacular Kentucky summer thunderstorm season. (Half of the building's lighting turns off to conserve power, everyone slightly gasps, but keeps working...we're used to it.)

    But not so for the "Y2K Command Center." The "suits" had plugged all their spreadsheet-running PCs straight into the wall, and when we changed over to the generators (on their command) the momentary power drop caused *every single one* of their machines to go down....

    We laughed in their faces openly. If that's not being hoist by one's own petard I don't know what is. It almost made it worth it not to be kissing my sweetie on New Year's Eve.

  • Re:RTFA (Score:3, Funny)

    by quantum bit ( 225091 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:47AM (#7783953) Journal
    The first rule of Fight-O-Net is: You do not talk about Fight-O-Net.
    The second rule of Fight-O-Net is: You do not talk about Fight-O-Net.
  • by Cl1mh4224rd ( 265427 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:52AM (#7783970)
    Planck-Time
    Plank-Time
    placktime
    Apparently there are some flaws with this method... Data degradation being the most obvious.
  • by Reziac ( 43301 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @02:15AM (#7784067) Homepage Journal
    At noon on December 31st, 2001, the Y2K fix for BlueWave (my offline BBS mail reader) stopped working. But only for one version. The Y2K fix still works with a slightly later version. Someone speculated that it was due to the older version being exactly n-many seconds old (from compile date) and at that point, some poorly coded function ran out of date space.

    Back in 1999, some BBS door functions stopped working, apparently due to running out of single-digit dates. *sigh*

    In the Closet I have a P90 that ever since Y2K, firmly believes the year is 2094. Oddly enough, NWDOS7 thinks this is a perfectly acceptable date!

  • by Entropy_ajb ( 227170 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @02:17AM (#7784081)
    Maybe this is what the Orange Alert is about.....
  • by Dahan ( 130247 ) <khym@azeotrope.org> on Monday December 22, 2003 @03:47AM (#7784428)
    You don't find it unusual that no matter when you run your version that uses localtime, the answer is always 1073741824, which just happens to be 2**30?

    perl -we 'print "seconds left: ", ((2**30) - localtime), "\n"'
    Argument "Mon Dec 22 01:44:41 2003" isn't numeric in subtraction (-) at -e line 1.
    seconds left: 1073741824

    Not too Informative, if you ask me...

  • Re:OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by JanusFury ( 452699 ) <kevin.gadd@gmail.COBOLcom minus language> on Monday December 22, 2003 @03:48AM (#7784432) Homepage Journal
    What else do you need?
    A girlfriend?
  • Re:OH NO! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Feztaa ( 633745 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @04:07AM (#7784477) Homepage
    Duct tape makes things stick, WD-40 makes them come apart. What else do you need?

    Ok, you asked for it :)

    The only two tools a handyman will ever need are duct tape and WD40. If it moves but it shouldn't, use the duct tape; if it doesn't move but it should, use the WD40.
  • by AvantLegion ( 595806 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @04:49AM (#7784590) Journal
    What a crock. I'm on an old UNIX machine and nothi.......

  • by fucksl4shd0t ( 630000 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @05:06AM (#7784633) Homepage Journal

    It was flame bait and I just wanted to post an educated rebuttal.

    Translation:

    It was flame bait, and I got baited.
  • Re:OMG (Score:5, Funny)

    by fucksl4shd0t ( 630000 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @05:32AM (#7784705) Homepage Journal

    I was born just before 1970. I'm a billion seconds old.

    Worse yet, you're in your 30s. Sorry, dude.

  • by Handyman ( 97520 ) * on Monday December 22, 2003 @07:32AM (#7784956) Homepage Journal
    I remember talking to a friend who tried to convince me that the earth was going to end somewhere in 2001. Why? Well, it's very simple. The number of the beast is 666, multiply that by three (there was a reason for that too -- not sure what it was, but it was biblical as well). That gives you 1998, and that's the number of years after the birth of Christ that the world is going to end. However, he told me, Jesus Christ wasn't born exactly on the first day of year one, he was actually born somewhere around 3 B.C., so that meant that the end of the world was going to take place in 2001.

    This conversation took place somewhere in the year 2000. He was not very pleased to hear that if he were right, the world would already have ended 5 years ago. :)
  • by MonkeyBoy ( 4760 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @10:07AM (#7785629)
    NWDOS7 thinks it's a perfectly acceptable date, but is secretly wondering why you're still using it on a P90 in 2094.
  • Re:OH NO! (Score:3, Funny)

    by LordKronos ( 470910 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @10:28AM (#7785747)
    >Duct tape and WD-40...What else do you need?
    A girlfriend?


    What for? He's already got lubricant.
  • by PacoCheezdom ( 615361 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:23PM (#7787167)
    13:37 in the afternoon, huh?

    Saturday, January 10, some big iron datacenter in Silicon Valley
    Tech: What's this? ERROR 2393: HAXX0rS HAEV STOELN YUOR MEGAHURTZ!


    I love you Jeff K.
  • by HTH NE1 ( 675604 ) on Monday December 22, 2003 @01:35PM (#7787279)
    y1.957k.
    It's still 1024 for me no matter what SI says.


    Then go take a 1 km walk off a 1000 m pier.

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