Two Takes on the Java Dilemma

Joe Barr writes "NewsForge is running a pair of excellent commentaries on the plight of Java and the Java development community following the recent "settlement" between longtime rivals Sun and Microsoft. One is by Rick Ross, the articulate leader of JavaLobby, entitled "Where is Java in the settlement?" The second is "Free but shackled: The Java trap" by Richard Stallman. Good reading. Both commentators put their finger on the heart of the problem, albeit from different perspectives." Yes, Newsforge and Slashdot are both owned by OSDN.

Algol invented the Internet

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't Algol the d00d who said he invented the Internet and then went and lost the 2000 election?

Re:Java is doomed, doomed I say!

[hyperstation]

So: Sun will slow down and finally stop development of Java. IBM will either try to roll-out its own compatible platform or propose a migration to something else. ...and other non-Sun implementations of Java will see more development to fill the gap.

java will not die.

whether it should or not is another discussion... :)

RMS is spot on this time

[Gothmolly]

And RMS will be muttering: "those fools, those fools, if only they understood what the GPL was about".

He mutters that constantly anyway, you insensitive clod!

I need a RMS to English translator...

[Random Guru 42]

Or some other way of disambiguating all those "free"s scattered throughout his article. That word's as overloaded as a ctor. Perhaps a complementary program to RMS-Lint [slashdot.org] would be good?

Re:Message To America's Students: The War, The Dra

[boudie]

So what are you trying to say? Is Ralph Nader for or against Java?

Re:"Freedom isn't free"

[tolan-b]

Yeah, it was terrible when Microsoft forked Linux, really knocked develpment on the head..

Super Karate Monkey Death Car

[beerits]

That work well for Mr James on NewsRadio:

Mr. James: "The original title of this book was 'Jimmy James, Capitalist Lion Tamer' but I see now that it's... 'Jimmy James, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler'... you know what it is... I had the book translated in to Japanese then back in again into English. Macho Business Donkey Wrestler... well there you go... it's got kind of a ring to it don't it? Anyway, I wanted to read from chapter three... which is the story of my first rise to financial prominence... I had a small house of brokerage on Wall Street... many days no business come to my hut... my hut... but Jimmy has fear? A thousand times no. I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey strong bowels were girded with strength like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo... dung. ...Glorious sunset of my heart was fading. Soon the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy has fancy plans... and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick would beat the donkey.

Re:Those jobs will vanish

[LibertineR]

Does anyone have enough sense to realize that my comments were related to the job market? I know damn well that obsolete stuff is still in use, but that does not mean that there is a thriving market for jobs in those areas. Consider the context of my statement, please.

Re:"Freedom isn't free"

[RTMFD]

and blow a hole in the "write once, run everywhere" theory.

Shouldn't it be the "write once, debug everywhere theory."???

Re:Sun will sell Java to the highest bidder

[bXTr]

Which begs the question: if they were all jumping off a bridge, would you do so, too?
Well, it's either jump or get pushed off by all the people behind you.