Unsung Heroes of Open Source 164
Yosef writes "Jon Udell uses his experience from using and hacking the free software BitPim to say that developers of such less-known projects are the true heroes of open source: 'For solving a host of vexing problems with quiet competence, and for doing it in ways that invite others to stand on their shoulders, I salute them all.'"
So true... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:SEPY (Score:1, Funny)
Re:SEPY (Score:2)
Re:SEPY (Score:3, Funny)
Sure. Flash is only used to annoy the fuck out of you - and the exclusive purpose of VCRs is to flagrantly infringe on media producers' precious IP. Hypocrites.
Get off you VT100 and come join us in this century.
Re: this century (Score:2, Insightful)
I have yet to encounter a flash presentation with all the useless twirling geometrics, gradient colors (yeth, Doktor Frankenstein, yeth. We must add gradient colors. Hmpf, hmpf.) and a barrage of MTV-style image cuts that were shot from odd perspectives that could not have been improved upon by a simple black on white hyperlinked bullet list.
I don't want
Re:So true... (Score:1)
Re:So true... (Score:1)
Thanking the developers (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.bitpim.org/testhelp/contributing.htm
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course, you could always donate some time & effort (as others have pointed out).
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:2)
Yep, it's true. Do you need my account numbers?
I'm not sure that they work that well, though--the funds from Mrs. Obuku don't seem to have come through, though . .
hawk
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:2)
If everyone donates a buck or two to me I'll send them a nice card and maybe a fruit basket.
URLs for Donations (Score:2)
I'll definitely be adding more projects to the list of who I will donate to after reading this article. If anyone can help me figure out where to send money to, please post to the email listed on my page or post under this thread.
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:5, Insightful)
I wrote this [interia.pl] little piece of crap. Okay, it got obsoleted really fast, it does the job but isn't anything great and there's practically no audience. But then I found this [linuxfr.org] blog entry (fish link [altavista.com]) and felt really special
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:2)
Blue-eyed people with a spot on the right side of the nose, and advanced case of rabies aren't allowed inside (and so are all blacks and jews).
Most of people who write free software fall in the two classes you described, great most in the latter. There are few redu
Re:Thanking the developers (Score:2)
Seriously, considering that only very few people donate to small projects, if you want to m
Different Perspectives (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Different Perspectives (Score:1)
Re:Different Perspectives (Score:2)
Do you think he would be alive still if he couldn't be replaced without huge efforts?
Re:Different Perspectives (Score:2)
Do you think he would be alive still if he couldn't be replaced without huge efforts?
How's that tinfoil hat treating you?
Re:Different Perspectives (Score:1)
Re:Different Perspectives (Score:2)
YOU can also be a hero! (Score:5, Insightful)
If so, then you can be a hero too. I never paid for software in the form of money, I personally feel it is alright to spend some of the saved money in the form of personal time when I find bugs, missing features and so on. Sadly, I am not a very experienced programmer, but I have managed to get some small patches into Open Source projects.
This is how you can be a hero also, even if it is just a line of code - the sum of all small snippets like that does eventually help the evolution of Open Source.
So skilled or not, you can be a hero too! Some are great big heros, but even if you just translated a text string, fixed a few lines or code, or just made some graphics -- then you are a small hero (in my eyes) also!
The ONE thing I take away, having read your post.. (Score:4, Funny)
My code is like my handwriting, I know what it's about at the time, but no one, myself included, can decipher it if it comes up again.
Re:The ONE thing I take away, having read your pos (Score:1)
I can't write anything legible, because it just doesn't require any though.
Re:The ONE thing I take away, having read your pos (Score:1)
In addition, you don't need to write massive amounts of code to be helpful. Implimenting a new feature can be as simply as a line or 2 of new code to an existing project.
Re:The ONE thing I take away, having read your pos (Score:2)
What? Your primitive culture doesn't have graphical kernel interfaces? How quaint!
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:5, Insightful)
Do you use Linux? Know how to code? If so, then you can be a hero too.
A lot of people equate open source with Linux, but there's quite a lot of it for Windows and other operating systems as well. Firefox, Mozilla, Eclipse, Python, and Mono all run on Windows. SourceForge lists over 10,000 projects for Windows. In fact, I'm a Windows user who wouldn't be able to live without Python, Bitlbee, Subversion, and wget.
So Windows users who are interested, join in on the fun. OSS isn't limited to Linux users.
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:2)
Because your program is using copyrighted, trademarked material from FFG, there's no way you'll be able to sell it without either getting a licence to do so FFG or just selling the rights to them (then you won't be able to sell it anyway). It doesn't matter if it is open sourced or not. If you make money from their property without them getting anything out of it, expect to get sued.
What I'm doing is being content to make no money from my port whatsoever (i.e. doing it
Do you use Linux? Know how to breath. (Score:4, Insightful)
Finding bugs, fix spelling mistakes, doing thorough reviews or usability studies, translating help into different languages or even setting you granny up with Linux all go to help OSS.
I think the translates do a Gem of a job, and make OSS accessible to a huge proportion of the world.
Re:Do you use Linux? Know how to breath. (Score:2)
So slashdot is OSS?
hawk
How to contribute to OSS without coding (Score:2)
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:1)
I'm just learning the ins-and-outs of programming right now and haven't always intended on becoming part of the muscle behind Linux or supporting OSS software. However, what convinced me to join the crusade someday was when I read about "trust chips" that would be put in
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:3, Insightful)
MSFT isn't, though, lying down. It will fight FLOSS on both the legal and technical fronts, and there will be (metaphoric) blood spilt.
Uh-hunh (Score:2)
hawk, apparently adovcating a real holy war,
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:2, Funny)
So I was in despair
In need of a good driver
Swimming 'round Google
like a clueless scuba diver
I'm a cheap bastard
and I ain't droppin' thirty
On an audigy tha
Re:YOU can also be a hero! (Score:1, Interesting)
Michael Elkins (Score:5, Insightful)
All mail clients suck, mutt just sucks the least.
Where are they all hiding? (Score:5, Funny)
For example, how many people were neccesary to put together libsdl-sound1.2 which is one of tens of thousands of packages hiding in the Debian repository, which is just a small piece of all open source projects.
Where are all these open source developers hiding? Is this what my bus driver does when they aren't at work?
Re:Where are they all hiding? (Score:1)
Somehow I doubt it [cbs2chicago.com]
Re:Where are they all hiding? (Score:5, Interesting)
For example, I'm considering making contributions to several projects myself. My contributions may be tiny but they may help to add up to a real finished product. It's all about the aggregate contributions of the many many tiny improvements people make adding up to make major differences... Open Source projects build up the same way civilisation does. Millions of small contributions over time.
I'm probably wrong but it sounds good to me...
So stop reading slashdot and go code something.
Re:Where are they all hiding? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Where are they all hiding? (Score:3, Insightful)
True story: I have this job. I write code. Much of this job ended up writing the same types of programs over and over again. So I got tired of writing the same thing over and over again and I wrote a tool to do my job better. The Objects I wrote allow me to make a program in a few minutes that used to take several days to create.
If I worked with the attitude that I don't get paid to make tools
Making technical information available (Score:5, Interesting)
Life is easier due to them (Score:4, Interesting)
I remember using gnuplot to make great EPS (encapsulated PostScript) graphs for papers in college. I'm not sure of a better way to put nice charts into LaTeX documents. Even the developers of LaTeX modules for things like rotated charts with regular headers and footers deserve a share of credit.
GNUplot. (Score:3, Informative)
Have you seen WikiTeX [wikisophia.org]? It allows for direct inclusion of graphviz, gnuplot, LaTeX and LilyPond directly into a wiki page. (It's a MediaWiki extension.) You lose the excellent typesetting, but man is it ever quick and easy.
--grendel drago
Re:GNUplot. (Score:1)
Ooh! (Score:2)
--grendel drago
Recognition helps (Score:2, Insightful)
Here are my unsung heroes (Score:4, Insightful)
I would say the gentleman behind HT Track [httrack.com] is an unsung hero. I sent him a bug report with pseudo-code as a guess to how to fix it. The very next day, he had sent me a thank-you email and had released a new version. I also found the Mozilla team to be very responsive to my suggestions here on Slashdot (one post turned into a new Mozilla feature -- pre-fetching). And the HTML-Kit [chami.com] team is very responsive to bug reports and patches too. I like all three teams at the geek level. Their products satisfy an important niche in Web development, they're responsive and accept code patches (even my poorly done offerings, with cleanup of course). I feel quite happy to call them unsung heroes of the OSS movement, and this is my second shot at singing their praises (see previous [slashdot.org] "unsung heroes of open source" article).
Re:Here are my unsung heroes (Score:3, Interesting)
I have a similar story with a small dockapp called wmfuzzy [manicai.net] that displays a time string.
When I switched to OpenBSD on a laptop, it didn't work. I informed the author, and he rewrote some code so it would. I tested it, found a few bugs, and told them of it. Although I couldn't code C at the time, I could read the asset reports and change the system clock so that the bugs would trigger.
Its a great feeling to submit a bug report in the morning and by the next day have a patched version of the code to
Re:Here are my unsung heroes (Score:1)
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Just one example? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Just one example? (Score:2)
Roger Binns no longer unsung (Score:3, Interesting)
Roger Binns responds ... (Score:3, Informative)
As someone else quoted we do not accept money, kickbacks or other forms of financing for BitPim. This is simply because it creates issues. Firstly some initial amount of that will be squandered on dealing with the tax situation it creates. Secondly it creates certain expectations. For example if someone donates and mentions they primarily use a particular operating system, then they wouldn't expect us to drop support for that
Re:Roger Binns responds ... (Score:3, Interesting)
You're just a git
To those who don't know, Roger Binns is responsible for Samba having the fastest share-mode lock code possible, as he goaded me into doing it by claiming it required a lock daemon. I was determined to prove him wrong...
Roger is also responsible for VisionFS (the *old*, good SCO's decent SMB file/print server).
Plus he holds a mean barbequeue
Jeremy.
Ballmer! (Score:1)
Absolutely true (Score:4, Interesting)
Heroes (Score:2, Interesting)
There are many fringe benefits (Score:3, Funny)
[formula post: sing about the unsung] (Score:2)
[close with formula joke]
ob quote: the out-of-work ex-leper (Score:3, Interesting)
"well i guess there's no pleasing some people"
"that's just what he said, bloody do-gooder"
"I salute them all.'" (Score:2)
My Hero is... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:My Hero is... (Score:1)
after all, if microsft was gone, who would be there for the open source community to emulate?
Re:My Hero is... (Score:2)
You understand that the UNIX graphical desktop predates Windows and Mac, right? That the software being used to render a Linux desktop today is the direct descendant of this venerable software, and contains some of the same bits? That Keith Packard, one of the many high-profile heroes of open source, has continuously developed this open source desktop in innovative ways over the last 20 years? That, for example, he developed the secure login protocol (XDMCP) used by X thin clients on the now-open-source
Re:My Hero is... (Score:1)
That aside, I genuinely think MS has blown its load. It knows it and, like a cornered tiger, it'll fight to the bitter end.
Much blood will be spilled.
Such is the nature of the universe.
However, and mark my words, MS is nearing its end...and I ain't talking about Marks & fucking Sparks, either.
To be frank, I don't give a fuck whether you agree or not - it stands as a prediction as long as
another one (Score:2, Interesting)
very true, i also develop open source (Score:1)
DikuMUD and CircleMUD creators (Score:2, Informative)
Roland McGrath, Brian Fox (Score:2, Informative)
Duncan Booth (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm sure you can find such people everywhere. Whatever obscure activity you undertake, or whatever strange problem happens to you, you sooner or later meet your hero. I mean - this is how free software works, isn't it?
Plug for the NSLU team (Score:1)
Jim Buzbee was one of the first with his articles on Tom's hardware on Hacking the NSLU2 [tomsnetworking.com].
There are now a number of developers that have extended the abilities and have added over 50 applications packages. You can see their work at the NSLU2 Wiki. [nslu2-linux.org] They rock! Thanks guys!!!
It's like high school all over again. (Score:5, Insightful)
What I'm about to say is probably not going to be taken well, but here goes anyway: Slashdot is probably the "football team / cheerleading squad" of the open source high school -- the place where the coolest of the cool get the most concentrated doses of glory and attention. There are certain people (whose names I shall not defame in this post, lest I get moderated down to -99 or something) who could make a stupid remark about how they think it would be better if people didn't wear matching shoes, and Slashdot would run half a dozen stories about it.
The best example of unsung heroes might be Linas Vepstas [linas.org]. He wasn't one of the "cool kids" so the world pretty much ignored his project, which was to port Linux to IBM mainframes -- he actually got it working, for the most part. IBM ignored his work and went it alone, and nobody knows much about Linas Vepstas now.
Unsung heroes indeed. Let's all try to avoid making open source a fashion show. Most of our best technology was built by nerds, and nerds aren't known for their social skills.
Re:It's like high school all over again. (Score:2)
No. Writing open source software isn't about popularity. There may be people that do it for the glory, people that need the application for themselfs, people that get paid f
So why don't we do something about it? (Score:5, Interesting)
The Slashdot audience is probably better positioned to recognize the true "unsung heroes of OSS" than anyone else.
So -- hey editors, you listening? -- why don't we have a monthly nomination for Unsung Hero of the Month? Let readers send in their candidates, along with a pitch for why they should be featured as an Unsung Hero; then have the editors pick the best pitch, and give that developer a front-page interview on Slashdot.
Heck, maybe even throw in some ad space for his/her project (we're all in this OSS thing together right?). You could probably even have a corporate sponsor pick up the tab for the ad space (the cost would be pretty low, and you could offer them naming rights -- make it, say, the "IBM Open Source Unsung Hero of the Month").
Then archive the interviews in a section of their own (just like "Developers", "Your Rights Online", etc.) so that once there's a bunch of these in the archives they can serve as a kind of Hall of Fame.
This would help introduce people to a whole range of great OSS projects they might otherwise never discover, and give the developers the "ego payment" that for so many folks is the only real reimbursement they get for their hard work...
Maybe of the day (Score:2)
That is a bad idea, though your heart is in the right place. There are just too many of them.
It is trivial to keep hero of the month busy for years, just taking the major contributors to kde [kde.org] who aren't recognized outside of the kde developer comunity. Now toss in the GNOME developers, the x.org developers, various Linux developers, netBSD, freeBSD, battle for Wesnoth, nethack and you have filled a lifetime of months touching many deserving hackers, but missing the large majority of both hackers and wor
Re:Maybe of the day (Score:3, Interesting)
The idea isn't to recognize every single worthy hacker out there. It's to recognize many worthy hackers who would otherwise never get recognition.
Even if you do this for years and only cover less than 1% of the total number of deserving hackers, you're still helping promote a huge number of great projects, which is a net win no matter how you slice it. Of course you're not going to be able to cover everybody. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
And I would argue that if something like this
Re:Maybe of the day (Score:2)
if something like this ends up focusing primarily on people contributing to projects like KDE, GNOME, etc. it'd be missing the point.
That was a large part of my point: it is too easy to miss many good projects because things like KDE and GNOME are great and have plenty that deserve recognition that you could cover only those two projects and not get into the hard work of finding other worthy projects. (There are plenty of unworthy projects, though most have little source code)
I add: Donald Becker (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I add: Donald Becker (Score:2)
I nominate the ndiswrapper team... (Score:2)
(who you can see here [sourceforge.net]).
This allowed me to get my machine connected back onto WiFi after switching to Linux. Thanks, guys.
Thank you to (Score:2)
Thank you, sir.
I don't know about you guys but (Score:2)
My unsung hero (Score:4, Interesting)
It has the perfect balance of simplicity and power. Thank you, Joe!
Gerard Beekmans (Score:2)
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Re:You would be wrong , Open Source is bad. (Score:2)
I don't care if my code gets used by a closed-source company, I just want the credit for it. That is why I license my code under BSD or LGPL.
Re:Option , choice and knowledge (Score:2)
And it seems like
Re:What about... (Score:1)
Re:So (Score:1)
Re:So (Score:1, Offtopic)
Casualties? (Score:2)
OK, it wasn't always painless, but Windows has its panes as well.
Re:Wrong. OT (Score:1)
It's somebodies opinion on the subject of discussion.
THIS however, is offtopic. As it is marked in the subject. Please don't waste your points modding this down, go do something usefull with it like modding up good discussion items.
Praise (Score:2, Funny)
HAND.
Re:Heroes??!! (Score:2)
Re:Linux is dead (Score:1)
Also I've heard Microsoft is hiring - but firing Martin Taylor
- Ya know, he is just not quite aggressive enough with all these (hand-picked) "factoids".
Keep practising
Hey look you follow a template!! (Score:1)
Interesting.
Can you do one for Solaris as well.
Also do one for Mac OS - just for completion sakes.
Interesting Template Coward.
Master of FUDware.