Oracle Outlines Plans for Sun Products, Casts Doubt on NetBeans 151
An anonymous reader writes to tell us that a recent FAQ released by Oracle outlines the plans for many of Sun's popular products like GlassFish, MySQL, and NetBeans. Many are worried at some of the possible avenues the decisions outlined could lead to, especially with respect to NetBeans. "What should have happened, Oracle should not have missed a beat and should have announced work on Oracle plugins for NetBeans and active Oracle support of NetBeans. This type of announcement would have brought a large and some-what skeptical NetBeans community much closer to Oracle. It would have been a big win for Oracle. NetBeans will continue to grow either way - but Oracle has missed a big chance to really change perceptions and at the same time move their tools to another level. What JDeveloper lacks is buzz, a wealth of community developed plugins, a wealth of support for other languages and a very, very large community. And of course it does not offer a platform in the NetBeans and Eclipse sense of the word. This is a huge missed opportunity for Oracle."
That's the power of open source (Score:4, Informative)
If Oracle is not interested, other people/companies will carry on the development. In general Sun customers should be applauding the foresight of the company to make pretty much every peace of their hardware and software Open Source and compare their situation to that of Peoplesoft or Siebel customers. Even if everything Sun is killed off tomorrow, it would still be possible to manufacture Sparc-based servers running Solaris and with applications developed using Java and Netbeans.
Re:Netbeans just isn't there (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Netbeans has tons of platform apps (Score:1, Informative)
It looks like someone didn't bother to check the NetBeans platform application showcase where there are so many platform apps that they had to categorize them:
http://platform.netbeans.org/screenshots.html
Re:NetBeans? Really? (Score:5, Informative)
I use both. I like Netbeans since 6.x, and I still use eclipse on some legacy projects.
Eclipse is snappier at times, but it reeks of being created by a committee of competitors and a pain in the ass at times to setup for anything more substantial than editing (Subclipse or Subversive as a case in point). However, once you get it working, it works fairly well.
The latest incarnation of Netbeans has more features out of the box and a whole lot easier to install and get to work with your SCM and etc.
Both work sufficiently well as an IDE.
What are you talking about? (Score:3, Informative)
Do you know what the high end Sparc machines can do?
I am sure that the terminology does not even exist in Intel-AMD processors, because they simply can't scale in the same way. You would have to look perhaps at IBM or HP.
Certainly an SPARC desktop will be soon a thing of the past, but in the high end arena SPARC can't be touched.
Re:Netbeans just isn't there (Score:4, Informative)
Unfortunately for Netbeans zealots, it has never caught up with Eclipse.
that's an opinion that i'm guessing has either to do with how you use your IDE, or the fact that you haven't used netbeans in a while. i use both. i use netbeans for java / java EE development, and eclipse for android development (since netbeans doesn't have officially blessed android plugin).
leaving out the lack of an official android plugin, netbeans beats eclipse in every way. ease of use, plugins, stability, ease of install, flexibility, standards. the only thing i can say bad about netbeans is that it uses more resources that eclipse ...