Postgres Project To Go NoSQL 62
TheFuzzy writes "Apparently the PostgreSQL project is caving in to recent trends and going NoSQL next year. This will leave SQLite as the only open source database still supporting SQL."
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Postgres Project To Go NoSQL
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April Fools (Score:2, Informative)
Re:April Fools (Score:4, Funny)
Extreme Databasing (Score:3, Insightful)
> This is another 1st April joke.
Thanks. Due to Time Zones and all it nearly got me!
But yeah: I wonder if NoSQL's success isn't due to people who think SQL is too hard to learn, much like Extreme Programming's success is due to people who want to code but not do the boring test and documentation part.
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> Thanks. Due to Time Zones and all it nearly got me!
It's not just about time zones. Jokes have to be in the morning of the 1st of April, you have to make exactly 1, and they have to be funny. As a slashdot concession, you can just replace some value for funny, I guess, but the other rules stand!
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Phew... (Score:3, Funny)
About damn time!
Good (Score:5, Insightful)
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Uh oh (Score:2)
Maybe they just got their funding cut from their parent company of the week and decided to go all out with everything since they know there won't be a next time. :(
Trends (Score:2)
Granted I know this is an April Fools joke. But...
"PostgreSQL project is caving in to recent trends" How about the trend of Hand Made file IO that is on the rise too. Or other methods of storing data. The fact is that is a lot of programmers are idiots when programming in SQL and code it the wrong way where it ends up hindering their overall use.
Sure NoSQL has some advantages over SQL but it has its disadvantages too. It is a tool you can keep in you cap but I don't see why it needs to be replaced.
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What's really funny about the story is (Score:2)
1) QUEL is a relational query language (in some ways better than SQL and in some ways worse). Moving to QUEL would moving away from SQL without moving away from relational modelling.
2) Back in the day, Postgres didn't support SQL and only supported a dialect of QUEL called PostQUEL.
This is one of the best satires of the NoSQL movement I have read to date. If it doesn't give you an eerie retro feeling, you don't have enough background to get the jokes.
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(Offtopic, I know: I admit I enjoy the April Fool's stuff as a novelty once a year (esp the Chatroulette this year) but my brain is bored)
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From the point of view of us solidly pre-singularity humans, what would be the practical difference between a god, God, or some post-singularity entity? They're all capable of things that we can't imagine and could crush us like a bug if they so choose.
Citation needed.
Cat my tongue (Score:1)
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You mean like Novell To Buy MySQL From Oracle For $1.1B Cash And Stock [slushdot.com]
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Man I wish I had mod points so I could mod your awful site spam down.
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You laugh, but Mozilla Raindrop [mozillalabs.com], the latest project by the Thunderbird devs, uses CouchDB. No April fools here.
The minus button (Score:2)
I've finally started using the minus button on stories, and modded most posts of today as "stupid".
Re:The minus button (Score:4, Funny)
Little do you know that, on April 1, said button is rather connected to your own karma.
Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny)
Another PostgreSQL-related one:
http://andreas.scherbaum.la/blog/archives/657-PostgreSQL-9.0-Includes-the-new-MySQL-Emulation-Layer.html
Another one ... (Score:3, Informative)
Just one April Fools story should be enough.
We come here for content, you know ?
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content? No, this is abuse by trolls under sensationalized headlines and duped stories...for content, you want wired.com or geek.com just down the net. stupid git.
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content? No, this is abuse by trolls under sensationalized headlines and duped stories...for content, you want wired.com or geek.com just down the net. stupid git.
Whoops, I thought I was in room 12A!
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Nah, he was just expressing his dismay with his dcvs and wishing his project would move to bzr ;-) or even svn ;-)
"WHAT?!" (Score:3, Insightful)
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Did you know that at first, Postgres supported QUEL (a dialect they called PostQUEL) instead of SQL?
Honestly a move to QUEL support wouldn't be so bad. It would mostly be problematic because of the additional learning curve.
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learning curve?
That's when you mention QUEL and I don't have the faintest idea what it is.
But it is nevertheless interesting [wikipedia.org].
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please excuse my ignorance
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Yep. The NoSQL crowd seems to be unhappy with relational data management. The idea of PostgreSQL going NoSQL by moving back to QUEL is one of the funniest jokes I have seen in a long time. And most people didn't get it because they don't know what QUEL is......
I have never worked with QUEL but it seems that there are only a few things that need fixing with it to make it a very, very nice (near perfect) relational db interface lang
Here's an idea for next year: (Score:1)
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Let's see - it's April 1 all day. At least I think that's how it works. Some of us wait all year for this shit. Go get a life for the day if you have keyboard stuck up your ass. I remember a time when ALL /. stories would be bogus on April Fool's. Admit it - you're whining because you're afraid you won't be able to figure out which is which! Go suck on your thumb until you grow up enough to not cry bloody hell when people try to have a little fun. Or maybe you whine like that every day - and we just get to
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So how is that different from any other day?
April fools is getting old (Score:2, Offtopic)
MySQL emulation in PostgreSQL 9.0 (Score:1, Interesting)
Here is the REAL news:
http://andreas.scherbaum.la/blog/archives/657-PostgreSQL-9.0-Includes-the-new-MySQL-Emulation-Layer.html
Too bad... (Score:1)
that this is a joke. In 1987, I graduated Cooper Union, I worked at Citibank in Funds Transfer and I was programming in QUEL on a Commercial Ingres system. Having learned both relational algebra and calculus in school, I was pleased to be able to use the more expressive calculus. Alas, it was not meant to be. Citi started cutting over to Oracle. In then left. A few years (and jobs) later I started working with Sybase. In SQL. It took me weeks to understand how to use the algebra again. We'd go a long way if
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It wouldn't be that bad. The old versions of Postgres actually used QUEL so I would expect they would go back to Postgres95 then see what needed to be done to map the new syntax into the planning trees. Honestly a QUEL module would be pretty cool.
I would settle for a PL/PGQUEL module though.
Summary misses the whole joke (Score:5, Informative)
The summary here misses the whole joke.
Way back when, there was a relational database named Postgres that used a query language called QUEL. As SQL caught on, they had to support it, so they replaced the QUEL support with SQL support and renamed the database PostgreSQL. This is the database that we use today.
The whole joke is that they're going retro.
(Anyone who actually wants to try out an implementation of QUEL can use Ingres, which is also open source now.)
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Someone mod parent up as informative. It's a lot funnier once you understand the entire joke....
SQL sucks so good riddance! (Score:1)
SQL has always sucked.
It is so good to hear that all major SQL projects are dropping the SQL language.