Apple Angers Mac Users With Silent Shutdown of Java 7 451
An anonymous reader writes in with news of the continuing saga of Java patches and exploits. "If you're a Mac user who suddenly can't access websites or run applications that rely on Java, you're not alone. For the second time in a month, Apple has silently blocked the latest version of Java 7 from running on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or higher via its XProtect anti-malware tool. Apple hasn't issued any official statements advising users of the change or its reasons, but it's a safe bet that the company has deemed Oracle's most recent update to Java insecure. That's why the company stealthily disabled Java on Macs back on Jan. 10, the same day a Java vulnerability was being exploited in the wild."
Re:I sure the EULA will tell me I cant do anything (Score:1, Insightful)
But at least you didn't let the fact that you don't know shit about shit stop you from talking!
Wow... Apple can't catch a break... (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow... Apple can't catch a break... You know damn well people would be bitching if they hadn't done this... Apple Fails To Disable Java 7. Millions of Macs Vulnerable. News at 11.
Re:Wow... Apple can't catch a break... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Old News (Score:1, Insightful)
Update 13 is already out, and *not* blocked by Apple. All that's blocked are the old, insecure (well, more insecure) versions.
Except all the corporate java apps rely on Java 1.4,5, and 6. I use Java 6 for Android SDK. It wont run on anything else. Java 7 is terrible and not as good as the more stable and secure version 6 which is mature. Does Cisco WebEX use Java 7 yet? I use Java 6 for that as well.
If I owned a Mac I would BE PISSED OFF. I am not stupid and know how to disable it for web browsing, but many apps use older java versions.
Re:Larry Ellision (Score:2, Insightful)
Is worse than Hitler.
Goodwin was an optimist.
Re:Oh no, I can't run Java applets?! (Score:0, Insightful)
Re:Good for them. (Score:5, Insightful)
No, you are the IT equivalent of the cast of Glee.
Young, geeky, bullied by retards who hate them for liking something that the retards don't like? ;)
Re:Good for them. (Score:5, Insightful)
Its really easy for some nerd to say your a fool for using Java, but when you have a business line application line Sungard Banner (which uses Oracle Forms which is Java based) with 30 years of prior use its not so simple to just move on - yes we may be foolish, but what can one do at this point?
Apple shuts off Java and they essentially killed off our front line application.
Really all this does is make us move more towards Windows and Linux desktops for anyone who has a business need for a computer.
Re: Good for them. (Score:4, Insightful)
It sounds like his users require Java for some crucial work-related application. So, if the choice was expose users to possibility of an exploit, or not get any work done, enabling a vulnerable Java is probably the less costly measure to take.
Re:Good for them. (Score:5, Insightful)
I have no problem with Apple disabling Java. I would like them to provide some notice and I would like them to provide a way to whitelist trusted applications. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
Re:Good for them. (Score:5, Insightful)
Apple hasn't told me how to do it. Yes, some hackers figured it out.
Did you call Apple Enterprise support? Does your organization have the proper agreements in place with Apple, for them to support use of OS X by a business (instead of ordinary consumer use) ?
Did you voice the concerns with your Apple rep?
Re:Run Linux (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Old News (Score:2, Insightful)
Except all the corporate java apps rely on Java 1.4,5, and 6. I use Java 6 for Android SDK. It wont run on anything else. Java 7 is terrible and not as good as the more stable and secure version 6 which is mature. Does Cisco WebEX use Java 7 yet? I use Java 6 for that as well.
You can still run that shit on Windows. Macs are aimed towards non-technical home users, and to a lesser extent graphical artists. Legacy compatibility has never been Apple's strong point.