Job Postings For Python, NoSQL, Apache Hadoop Way Up This Year 52
Nerval's Lobster writes: "Dice [note: our corporate overlord] collects a ton of data from job postings. Its latest findings? The number of jobs posted for NoSQL experts has risen 54 percent year-over-year, ahead of postings for professionals skilled in so-called 'Big Data' (up 46 percent), Apache Hadoop (43 percent), and Python (16 percent). Employers are also seeking those with expertise in Software-as-a-Service platforms, to the tune of 20 percent more job postings over the past twelve months; in a similar vein, postings for tech professionals with some cloud experience have leapt 27 percent in the same period. Nothing earth-shattering here, but it's perhaps interesting to note that, for all the hype surrounding some of these things, there's actually significant demand behind them."
Is SQL really such a bad thing? (Score:5, Funny)
It seems strange to specifically ask for experts that know no SQL.
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It shows one can pass HR's buzz-word filters without lying and STILL be a dumbshit.
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right???
holy crap you guys...
seriously...
I used to do db admin w/ a 800K contact database for a magazine publishing and tradeshow company including a call center...it was actually a fun job! we did all kinds of data 'pulls' for all departments...we were 'data services'...we used all kinds of programs, Oracle, the M$ products, even some programs we patched together
That was many years ago...
I'm wondering how you guys take it? W
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I used to do db admin w/ a 800K contact database...it was actually a fun job!
You poor kid. Would the other kids not play with you as a child?
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yes! since age 5 I was kept in a burlap sack and only allowed out to code and poop...my only human contact until after college was a dog groomer my keepers paid to shave my head every 6 months
but for real...it was the people that made it actually fun...I had two great supervisors and...well the company was in downtown Boulder, CO on the main walking mall area...so lunch breaks were fantastic
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I'd suggest it...if you're the kind that likes good weather, beautiful scenery (of geological and human kind), being accepted as 'weird' w/o question by your neighbors, awesome restaurants, legal weed, and a big metro area just over the hill and across a federal wetland area 35 miles away...
The misconception some have is that since Boulder is in Colorado that its somehow very 'wintery'...nothing could be further from the truth...it has a wet warm winter...but snow will stay on the ground...300+ days of sun
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I'm sure there are a lot of DBA's that would be happy if less people in the company knew SQL...
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It seems strange to specifically ask for experts that know no SQL.
Maybe they want to employ happy programmers!
Re:Is SQL really such a bad thing? (Score:5, Funny)
It seems strange to specifically ask for experts that know no SQL.
It's a ploy to get more H1B's into the country. "We can't find any database experts in the U.S. who know no SQL!"
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SQL is a bad thing, but not because RDBMSs are a bad idea. Quite the opposite. but all those people leaving RDBMS databases do it because RDBMSs are screwed up both by forcing people to use SQL (which is atrocious in itself) and because most RDBMS vendors have the same attitude now that Lisp machine companies had in the 1980s - they want outrageous money for bloated crap. Then they wonder why people go somewhere else for stuff that should have been commonplace fifteen years ago.
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Is SQL really such a bad thing?
Off course not, but you must combine it with XML, and XSLT. What purpose does it serve to only write a program in SQL at run-time, and have it interpreted at run-time if you do not let the database server wrap the results in a human-hostile text format at run-time and parse it at run-time with the client? Especially if all the object-oriented techniques now make it possible to have enough separation to request the person details at index locations 3, 17 and 173?
If you program blind-panic-style, I can imagin
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And still they won't hire (Score:1)
Sure, they'll post the job. Like posting a job for folks who have four years experience driving Chevy pickups. As if you can't learn the skills they want in two weeks.
But it lets them pretend there's a "skills shortage" while leaving millions of qualified workers begging for hire.
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If a competent programmer who knows SQL and C/C++, and a few other languages, maybe Java and LISP, can't learn enough NoSQL and Python in two weeks to start being productive, then NoSQL and Python are bad platforms and languages. A newcomer will not learn all the quirks, tricks, and libraries in 2 weeks, but doesn't have to. Don't have to know half of the typical bloated language to do useful work in it. As for the cloud, someone experienced with system administration ought to be able to pick up enough
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If a competent programmer who knows SQL and C/C++, and a few other languages, maybe Java and LISP, can't learn enough NoSQL and Python in two weeks to start being productive, then NoSQL and Python are bad platforms and languages. A newcomer will not learn all the quirks, tricks, and libraries in 2 weeks, but doesn't have to. Don't have to know half of the typical bloated language to do useful work in it. As for the cloud, someone experienced with system administration ought to be able to pick up enough to make some good use of it in less than a week.
In his example the issue is not necessary NoSQL or Python, it's how they are used by the other stuff (e.g OpenStack). Learning Python is the easy part; figuring out how everything inter-relates in OpenStack is the hard part.
Percentages? (Score:5, Insightful)
Percentages can be very misleading, do they have raw numbers?
If there was only one python posting last year but 10 this year, that's 1000%!!!
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Re:Percentages? (Score:5, Informative)
TFA is kind of dumb for not giving the numbers, but a quick search on Dice turns up 4800 python listings.
Compare to 1770 Hadoop listings, 1490 NoSQL, and 3250 for 'Big Data' and you can see that it's kind of the opposite of what you were suggesting. The reason Python is only up 16% is because it had so many listings last year already.
2700 Ruby listings for comparison, regarding another post.
Re:Percentages? (Score:4, Informative)
16599 for Java
15924 for C,
3359 for PHP
4327 for Perl
0 for fortran (heh)
0 for COBOL (heh)
2657 for iOS
2522 for Android
27 for Lisp
11055 for Linux
36 for Haskell
373 for Scala
425 for Groovy
etc. etc..
These numbers mean hardly anything at all. Dice has serious selection bias too.
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Anecdotal, but I've basically got all the skills listed in this article. I started job hunting a few weeks ago (mid April). The last time I went job hunting, about 6 years ago, my rule of thumb was that roughly 1 out of every 5 recruiters I spoke to would translate to an interview. This time around, every one of them seems to land multiple opportunities. I've done at least 3 phone interviews each week. This week alone I've had one face-to-face on Monday, and 4 more phone screens. I've never seen anyth
LAMP (Score:2)
The mind of a PHB (Score:2)
It could be the typical PHB gets sucked into the hype and tosses those buzzwords into the job ad to make sure he's getting the "freshest talent". The ad is already stuffed with gazillion buzzwords, so why not gazillion + 1
"Python" - no they want specific CMS niche skills (Score:5, Interesting)
Sure, the job may say "Python" or "PHP" in the title, but .... they usually want niche skills with some CMS you've never heard of written in these languages, and if you read the whole job writeup, it's not a "Python" job other than you need to know Python to write extensions for the CMS. So if you know Python programming, you still won't get the job.
The reason why there's a "shortage" of skills at the same time there's a glut of developers available is the insanely narrow specialization that companies want. There aren't many people who have even heard of the CMS-of-the-week the company uses, let alone knows its internals well enough to do what the company wants done. Companies seem very good at picking losers in the technology race, and get stuck with things that are evolutionary dead ends, further limiting their talent pool.
Big data is probably the same thing, but I don't know anything about it.
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Coincidentally. . . (Score:2)
work performed by people relying on these folks to do their jobs falls dramatically. IT support staff frazzled at having to constantly find solutions to problems created by people who are supposedly wizards at what they do.
IT management oblivious to problems so long as products get shoved at door and they can make their bonuses.
Small market, big percentage changes (Score:3)
Those were all niche markets a couple of years ago so big percentage increases don't mean all that much.
IMHO...most companies won't ever have a use for Hadoop. "Big Data" is a buzz word that doesn't mean anything. "Cloud" doesn't require a specially trained expert. NoSQL is another word for caching, which most enterprisy applications don't do well, so that's worth knowing (especially if the app is trying to use Java/Hibernate for persistence, yuck). Python will continue increasing in popularity because there isn't a better alternative for quick scripting and small applications, Java is too cumbersome for small tasks.
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How is NoSQL another word for caching? You can use NoSQL databases to implement cache systems, but that in no way is the extent of it (the term itself is very, very vague and means a multitude of different approaches to handle data).
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(the term itself is very, very vague and means a multitude of different approaches to handle data)
Yes, that's a big part of the problem. But when you listen to the reasons to use NoSql they all come down to having the data stored in a manner the application can get to it quickly, with less consideration given to the usual RDB concerns like data integrity and normalization. To me, that's a cache (although "cache" is also a vague term).
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Actually to me NoSQL means firstly schema-less data and not ACID operations. But then there are NoSQL DBs that allow defining schames and have ACID operations.
But try to explain that to your average recruiter.
"Big" data projects? (Score:2)
I wonder how many of those jobs for "big data" involve data sets that will sit on a USB drive?
PHB: "But it's a TERABYTE, at least!"