GitHub, Medium Remove Public ICE Employee Data Repository (obsceneworks.com) 707
owenferguson shares a report from Obscene Works: Medium.com and GitHub have today quashed the release of a set of data comprising of all the ICE employees who openly list themselves on LinkedIn.com. All the data released was gathered from publicly listed LinkedIn profiles. The data was assembled by Sam Lavigne of http://lav.io/ and was published as a repository on GitHub, and announced via an article on Medium.com.
ICE employees? (Score:5, Informative)
Okay, I'll bite. The "article" doesn't even answer the question. What the heck is an ICE employee? A gas-powered employee?
Answer via Google: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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ICE is Immigrations and Customs Enforcement
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ICE === in car entertainment
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Oh, it's the Alpine Girls from the car show. That explains why slashdot likes it.
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What the heck is an ICE employee?
I travel on ICEs regularly, and the service from their employees is excellent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Fast, comfortable . . . much more room than on a plane . . . no security lines, and power outlets in the first class, so I can get some work done.
. . . and, yes, my T-Online LTE connection remains stable at speeds of 200 km/h.
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Boo boo boo! They are following the fucking law! How terrible! Same law your hero Obama followed.
How much did you worry about brown kids the ? Zero. Disingenuous prat.
Hate the law? Change it.
But that is not your issue. You hate Trump.
Hillary lost. Move on.
The law's been on the book a long time, the current administration is interpreting it rather differrently than previous administrations.
They can change their interpretation/policy in a heartbeat.
Who currently control the llaw-making institutions and are thus capable of changing the law? (But prefer to use kids as a lever for their political purposes)
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The current administration lost access to the existing family detention center because lawsuits have made it impossible to have them certified.
http://www.theeagle.com/news/l... [theeagle.com]
They literally can not detain the kids with their mothers like it happened for most of Obama's terms.
Re:Manufactured outrage (Score:5, Informative)
1. He's enforcing the most draconian option. They claim the kids are unaccompanied but by prosecuting the adults criminally instead of civilly -- they obviously have that right -- they can isolate both the parents and the kids. This is even happening to people trying to claim asylum at ports of entry.
2. Many do. The vast majority arrive with an adult. The trafickers posing as a family account for
3. Many, if not all, of these children have been apart from their parents for more than 20 days. Even a cursory google shows this is heinously out of context.
4. This is just unmitigated bullshit. It's child abuse (per pediatricians AND psychiatrists) and nothing DHS says has been independently verified. Either way being separated from family and put in a detention center is certainly not GOOD treatment
5. People are generally not jailed for misdemeanors. Children certainly aren't seized and they get preference in their bail hearing if they are the sole caregiver.
6. This is just unmitigated bullshit. He kept families together.
7. Ignoring the fact that DHS has started turning people away from ports of entry, yes they are actively being turned away and sometimes seized. This is, once again, easily findable via basic google. Some actual sources WITH SOURCES!
https://www.texasmonthly.com/p... [texasmonthly.com]
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19... [npr.org]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0... [nytimes.com]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0... [nytimes.com]
Even if you don't like NYT or NPR, there are other outlets that report it as well, even websites like Snopes and politifact. Basically that was a shit post for covering an awful practice and an even bigger shit post because it was so laughably bad and fake,.
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No.. you are either mistaken or lying.
1) Trump is only enforcing the law : Nope, it's a new policy. And it's a decision by Miller, Sessions, and Trump to do so. Presidents Bush and Obama saw no need to enforce the law this way.
2) Many children arrive unaccompanied
We are talking about babies and toddlers being taken from their parents-- we have audio of them crying for their parents.
3) Children can only be separated for 20 days
No. per former ICE head on the news tonight at 9pm, there is no procedure in pl
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There are 3 "tender" facilities with babies taken from their mother's arms in south texas and they are preparing to open a 4th facility. Airline attendents are reporting on flights carrying the toddlers away from the area.
These are not teens. These are babies and todders. the parents will be "fast tracked" back home and the children will be "slow tracked" and *per* the former head of ICE, they may not be sent to their home countries for months or years and by then there may no way to identify their parents.
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I was on the road today. I've already signed up to help at the democratic website.
I also donated to the puerto rican crisis- where over 5,000 u.s. citizens have died so far and now a new hurricane season is starting.
And I've been doing volunteer work for the democratic party in Texas (first time in my life-- I was still voting for republicans in 2008.)
Republicans have left morality and are headed towards authoritarianism and evil behavior.
Any conservatives like me should leave the party and work to restore
Slashdot editors will be surprised (Score:2)
When they start being audited by the IRS.
And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? (Score:4, Interesting)
Lets create a database of all people on facebook who made a post supportive of the pro-violence wing of antifa. Would there be a different reaction to its deletion?
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Re: And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? (Score:2)
It would be a very small database. Antifa is 99% astroturf.
Even among impressionable young students, few indeed want to join a gang of brown shirt thugs that attacks anyone critical of bourgeois cultural imperialism.
Re:And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? (Score:4, Insightful)
It would be just as bad. As is the list of "SJWs" [sjwlist.com].
Lists of people you dislike are almost always a bad idea.
Antifa and neonazis are idiot cosplayers (Score:2)
I found a whole bunch of those violent anti-fascist assholes. They're under white marble crosses all over Europe.
No you did not. Because the allied soldier under white crosses did not believe in beating up people over words. When the Nazis marched in Illinois in the 1970s the WW2 vets opposed them with words not violence.
It is only the comic book caricature of WW2 soldiers that antifa likens themselves to as they indulge in their own little soldierly fantasies. The immature entitled kid in black north face clothing and balaclava is far far different than the real soldiers who destroyed real fascists. Similar story
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Someone legally compiled *publicly available* information. Started a small project to make said publicly available information accessible.
Someone did the same thing for doctors that provided abortions. How did that turn out?
What a creep (Score:5, Insightful)
What a creep.
I find it helpful to remember that as much as internet companies use data to spy on and exploit their users, we can at times reverse the story, and leverage those very same online platforms as a means to investigate or even undermine entrenched power structures.
This is some serious confusion, or just a severe "us against the world" mindset. Yes, internet companies sometimes spy on their customers. No, the people in his stalker notebook do not spy on ISP customers. No, the spying ISPs engage in is not the same as encouraging stalking.
I've seen a certain (few) progressives justify bad behavior as "sticking it to the man", "speaking truth to power", or "punching up". Invariably, this was an excuse to be rude or make accusations about a person who wasn't in a position to defend themselves. This data dump goes beyond rudeness.
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Re: What a creep (Score:5, Insightful)
Absolutely. Can't wait for some Christian fundie to publish a comprehensive list of abortion doctors. With a wink and a "now I'm not telling you what to do with your guns" preface.
Re: What a creep (Score:5, Informative)
“Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment,” Trump said to boos from the crowd.
“By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks,” he then added.
“Though the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know.”
Re: What a creep (Score:5, Informative)
I'm not going to speak to the efficacy or wisdom of doxxing ICE agents, but you seem to be behind the times on the willingness and capability of the radical right wing to resort to political violence. It's going to get extremely ugly very quickly if both sides start regularly using violence for political ends.
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By (few) you mean every Antifa supporter, all the trolls harassing prop 8 donors including Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich, and all the college students who threaten violence if a speaker they disagree with comes to their college. Yeah, just a "few" progressives.
Indeed there are a lot of bad apples. But aren't there even more people who stand for progressive ideals but don't make accusations, don't call for people to get fired, and don't encourage violence? These people don't make the news, and denouncing the whole group is nearly the same sin I'm criticizing. Some, not all.
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Punching nazis isn't something progressives do. It is something patriotic Americans do.
Time for some 1980's security (Score:2)
Stop putting information out online.
Got a resume? Print it and hand it in to the approved gov person for that promotion, side ways promotion. Nothing digital, online.
Be aware of strange new cctv, random people with a camera near any federal building.
Talking about 1st A, been a tourist. Doing a 1s A protests outside your building? That "first amendment audit" on gov workers, mil, contractors for h
Over a dozen republicans opposed now. (Score:2)
And multiple Republican governors have withdrawn their national guards.
Republicans control the presidency, house, and senate. They could fix this tomorrow.
Meanwhile children are being put in cages and crying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Why is this newsworthy? (Score:2)
So, scraping is supposed to be OK (Score:4, Interesting)
They scraped content from LinkedIn (or used an API?) to compile a directory, almost certainly in violation of TOS.
How was that OK?
Microsoft owns LinkedIn. Microsoft owns Github. Put two and two together. They are enforcing their TOS, and happen to have the ability to do so in this case without having to convince another site to take down the illegally-obtained material.
One more time (Score:3)
For those who may have missed the memo:
There is not, and never has been, any such thing as "privacy" on the Internet.
If you make your profile public anywhere, someone unexpected WILL read it..and use the information that you post in a way that you probably won't like.
We now return to our regularly-scheduled flamethrowing, already in progress...
I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm grateful to Github for nipping this in the bud. Crap like this is exactly the sort of response that our countries current extreme immigration policies are meant to solicit. We're being trolled; probably as a point of distraction from economic issues that otherwise would dominate the mid-term elections (the economy's doing crap with poor wage growth despite full employment). Now is the time to calm the heck down and apply appropriate and legal pressure. Not dox a bunch of poorly paid gov't employees who most likely took the job out of desperation (and yes, I know folks who work in some of the less upstanding law enforcement jobs and believe me, it's not by choice).
Re:I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Insightful)
They may have taken the jobs out of desperation, but they didn't have to announce the fact on LinkedIn.
They made the information about themselves public.
They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
We can argue that they should quit their jobs if they're asked to do something immoral, but a lot of them _aren't_ doing anything immoral. I'm going to Godwin this thread right now, not every German helped kill jews. There's boarder patrol agents who help people they find in the desert.
I understand wanting to do something to help Mexican and South American immigrants. But if that's our goal then there's a _lot_ more to do than immigration. We can start by legalizing drugs. The drug war fuels their violence. We can also stop meddling in their politics. "Banana Republic" has a sinister meaning and our CIA has helped run death squads in South America. Start voting for the kinds of politicians who oppose torture and unnecessary military build up. Drop food instead of Bombs, it's cheaper and more humane.
There's a lot we can do to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. But that said, we don't necessarily _want_ to do that. We're addicted to their cheap, cheap labor. Always have been.
Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
I agree that we should end the drug war.
It has gone worse than Prohibition.
If we want to stop immigration, we simply need a national employment database and fine the hell out of any employer employing people not approved to work.
But many of the people losing their children are not coming here simply for work. They are facing being murdered in their home country.
And Sessions is quoting the bible while ignoring Jesus and all the tales relating to being a good samaritan, kind to strangers, etc. And he's using the same verse used to justify slavery and many other heinous crimes.
Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Interesting)
Prohibition was, at least nominally, a moral stance that alcohol was bad and should be totally banned. The War on Drugs (also called "The War on (Some) Drugs" if you are trying to smear the pharmaceutical industry) was a law enforcement and social control program, really. You can make the argument that it, like criminalization of maurijuana, was to allow the government to lock up black people easier. There's a great conspiracy theory that maurijuana is illegal because FBI Director Hoover wanted to lock up the Black Panthers, and they weren't otherwise actually breaking laws that he could pin on them (not to say they were innocent, just the drug dealing was a lot easier to prove and convict). There's also a great conspiracy theory that maurijuana is illegal because Dow Chemical's new miracle nylon ropes couldn't compete against hemp ropes, so they got maurijuana (and hemp) made illegal.
Look up the E-Verify system. Employers can already verify citizenship/immigration status, but it is not currently required, and businesses don't want to do it, because it loses them access to cheap labor. It will especially impact small farms, and lots of agricultural and meat processing facilities. Also lawn services, construction, and plenty of other businesses where people work hard physical labor, usually outside. You know, the kind of jobs that most Americans want their kids to get good educations so they won't have to do, but that still need to be done.
This is where I show I don't fit well into either Democrat or Republican columns. Coming to America for a better life, or a life where you can live the way you want with less government control, is a big part of how this country grew over the last 200 years. I'm a big believer in that. And that's what we have our normal legal immigration laws to cover. We also have the asylum immigration laws, and I don't know as much about that as I feel I should, but I've never agreed that "There is a high violent crime rate in my home country" is a good enough reason for an asylum claim. Government persecution, yes, organized crime, maybe, my spouse beats me, no, I don't think that should qualify. Bear in mind, I've always considered "asylum" to really be more about "political asylum" which is obvious in my thinking there, isn't it? Can you tell I don't acutally know the law there?
If you look at the history for Paul's letters to the Romans, he wrote several of them while IN JAIL. You know, being imprisoned for breaking the law. He was a big believer in obeying a government's laws that represented the will of God, but not so much a government that did not represent God's will.
There's a saying that goes with this... "The Devil quotes scripture too". Simply finding a line in the Bible that seems to support your position is not enough to claim the moral high ground. You still have to make the case that what you are doing is right, and I don't think they've done that successfully yet. Half the Trump administration isn't even trying to do that, because they don't think what they are doing *is* right. They *may* believe it is the least bad of several very bad options, but that is not at all the same statement as "is good and right".
Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
I was born within walking distance to a concentration camp in which people were raped and tortured to death, those people had received training from the US, and that dictatorship was supported by the US.
The US has had a hand in a lot of the world's problems, doing a little to make up for the millions that have suffered and died under US imperialism is not too much to ask.
I pay more taxes than most americans, too. But it's not about money, it's about being decent human beings.
Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
Cry me a fucking river over spending money helping immigrants. We back 3/4 of the world's dictactors, we're bombing 8 countries (I think, I've lost count at this point). We spend more money on a military than many of the world's other major powers combined.
If it's about the money, we've got a lot more high priorities to cut.
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
The first tries to make a life at the expense of others, the latter tries to find a paying job and a safe place to live.
Trump's administration can, awaiting their deportation, keep the families together, absolutely no need to separate them at this difficult time.
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The difference is that in the normal operation of the criminal justice system, the system isn't overwhelmed on a daily basis with a never ending flood and criminal cases process quicker, The arrestee is booked, sits a few hours (maybe a weekend) and then is arraigned and usually a bail amount is set
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They are following the legal process of claiming asylum from danger. Even if their case is not accepted, they are not breaking the law.
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Informative)
You can't apply for asylum in your country of origin. You first have to enter US territory, which may be an embassy in a third country or the US proper. Valid immigration status is not a prerequisite for applying for asylum. You may apply for asylum to an immigration judge during removal proceedings.
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:4, Interesting)
Do they have an asylum case? Do they know what the classifications and definitions of asylum are? Or were they told "just say asylum when you get there"? These asylum seekers not only don't have a case or evidence, they are often illiterate. They come across the border, not at a designated crossing, don't voluntarily seek legal officials, and have no prepared case for asylum. They just either know when they come in that asylum claims will allow them to stay longer or they get legal council that tells them asylum is their only option for legally staying.
Did they flee a country that sucks? Yes. Is their case special and meeting the three criteria for asylum (from Wikipedia)? First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country.[3] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group. Third, an applicant must establish that the government is either involved in the persecution, or unable to control the conduct of private actors.
If someone comes across the border illegally, doesn't immediately seek legal means of declaring asylum, and doesn't have a prepared case for the three criteria, then how are they asylum seekers? Sounds to me like they are using legal language to ride the legal bureaucracy as long as they can because the USA has a reputation for a broken immigration system that is overwhelmed with people. Throwing children into the mix adds to the complication and the difficulty in caring for the people caught.
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Informative)
They are breaking the law if they enter the US before obtaining asylum.
As far as I understand the situation, that statement is false thanks to certain international treaties the US is a signatory to.
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Also, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They are following the legal process of claiming asylum from danger. Even if their case is not accepted, they are not breaking the law.
But the asylum seekers are not the ones being arrested. There is a huge backlog of folks seeking asylum, so many are told they need to wait. But instead of doing that, they go try to cross the border between the ports of entry, illegally. That's when they get arrested.
Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Informative)
> They both have broken the Law.
Seeking asylum is not against the law. And yet, if you come to the US-Mexico boarder seeking asylum, you will be arrested and your children, if any, will be confiscated.
And I say "confiscated" because there is a nonzero chance that separation will be permanent [nbcnews.com].
> No it's not pleasant, no it's not ideal.
It's un-American, it's illegal, it's racist [fivethirtyeight.com], and it's completely unnecessary. It's throwing gasoline on what is already a dumpster fire of a humanitarian crisis.
=Smidge=
Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats (Score:5, Informative)
Funny you should mention Godwin...
He weighed in. [twitter.com]
They also WERE expecting threats (Score:2)
Re:I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:2, Insightful)
You are not right. Most doxxers defend their actions by saying the information they compiled was publicly accessible. While the data may be publicly available, it is not compiled into an easily searchable database for the purposes of hurting people.
If you like keeping lists of "undesirablea" so much, just remember... Hitler kept lists too. Yup... Godwin's Law!
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Doxing often involves just collecting publicly available information. Most people don't realize how various little bits here and there can be collated and cross-referenced to build up a profile of them, kinda like what Facebook does.
Just because something is public doesn't mean it can't be used for doxing. Merely collecting it for the purposes of harassment or shaming is enough.
Re:I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
collecting? Its on a god damn list on linked in and they all put themselves on that list.
https://www.linkedin.com/searc... [linkedin.com]
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They failed to nip it in the bud. It's in the wild now. There are already probably 10's of thousands of copies.
If I work or worked for ICE and was on the list, I'd move. Especially if I had a family.
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. Probably because there's a lot of emotions running high
It's actually amazing to me how much emotion there is. It's like the signature of the Trump era: emotion, sometimes irrational.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:3)
It's good that people are seeing Surveillance Valley's real attitude toward free speech. Doesn't matter if you are "right" or "left". If you say something that offends the oligarchy, VC-controlled companies will censor you.
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We're being trolled; probably as a point of distraction from economic issues that otherwise would dominate the mid-term elections .
Let's see. What could the Democrats possibly want to distract us from? Maybe a report that has uncovered their "deep state" actors and put their obstruction of justice on clear display?
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A reckoning is coming,
What sort of reckoning do you see coming?
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The kind we should have had after the first Civil War, if we'd only let General Sherman do what needed to be done.
The fact that the traitors received a general pardon was a travesty. Sherman was right.
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Euthanasia is a choice made by rational adults about their own end.
Abortion does not result of the loss of a thinking being that can feel distress.
What is going on now is involuntary confinement of children who can and who have committed no crime.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:4, Informative)
Nobody in the US loses their kids over a misdemeanor. If you run a red light, you don't have your kids put in a "Tender Age" prison.
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No? If you are arrested for something and cannot make bail, either because you cannot afford it, or perhaps because you are denied it because you are deemed a flight risk... then yes, you are not going to have physical custody of your kids for a while. In the case of someone who is unlawfully in a country and has residency (and presumably other ties elsewhere), the odds of being a flight risk are increased.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Insightful)
Why throw the parents in one cage and the children in a different cage? Why not keep them together?
Even if you ignore the humanitarian grounds, it surely costs more to provide free childcare that the parents would otherwise have given.
Let's drop the pretence. This is being done to put pressure on the Democrats and to discourage migrants. It's not a legal requirement or procedural issue, it's a deliberate decision to separate children from their parents for political reasons.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
Why throw the parents in one cage and the children in a different cage? Why not keep them together?
They tried that, but the courts have ruled they cannot house children in the same facilities with adult detainees.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
In Europe we have detention facilities for families. They are secure but also provide conditions suitable for families, at least in theory.
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Are we more likely to have actual immigration reform come through Congress?
A better question is if using the lives and mental health of children as a tool to force Democrats to agree to these reforms a reasonable thing to do? Is that how democracy is supposed to work?
Are migrants going to stop coming to the US illegally for fear of their family being split apart?
Doubtful, considering what the alternative for many is. But in any case, you are begging the question. Is the number of migrants really such a huge problem, and is stopping them coming the best way to deal with it as opposed to, say, managing immigration better?
People are always going to migrate. The US was built on m
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:4, Insightful)
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In the US as a citizen the court system should have you at least eligible for bail and back out on the street with a court date within a few hours to days tops. But for a time you are in jail and your children are not in the
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Re:I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
The monkey who managed to double our countries debt in 8 fu*king years!!
Sadly, you have no understanding of how the US government works. Spending is controlled by congress, not the president, and congress was controlled by Republicans for 6 out of those 8 years. In fact, despite all their ranting about "tax and spend Democrats", Republicans have controlled congress, and therefore controlled spending, for 20 out of the last 26 years.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure. This is why my kid had on their history final that Reagan ran up the national debt and turned the US from the #1 creditor to a debtor nation.
The difference from Obama was the political parties running congress and the executive were swapped. So - the blame got swapped too.
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The key vote, 238 to 195, gave Mr. Reagan a third upset victory over the Democratic House majority on fiscal issues. The President won by virtue of the same coalition of Republicans and Southern Democrats that brought him victory in May on the budget resolution and in June on the budget reconciliation bill.
You're right that the blame should not be placed solely on the president, but it doesn't seem as though the blame was swapped. This was a joint effort between the president and congress, with the president championing the cause.
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Insightful)
Compared to our return on the 8 Trillion in increased debt from the Obama years with no real benefit to be shown for it - yeah, totally a bargain.
Let's see - roughly 6T of that was directly related to saving our economy from the crash of 2008, and whose fault was that again? Oh yeah, the Republican led rollback of Democratic originated regulations on the banking industry allowed that to develop. Hmm. The remainder of the deficits were the result of Republican majority Congress, so what, exactly, did Obama do to the debt? What did we get? Obamacare. A half-assed form of universal coverage, but at least they tried, which the Republicans apparently find so abhorrent they're doing everything in their power to sabotage it so it "fails". Why? Because they're incapable of replacing it, as their concept of "healthcare", short version: pay or suffer and die (restated as it's god's will)
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(From wikipedia, because it was easiest)
Thus, the CRA wasn't in play for these investment banks, nor were they regulated. Yet they were the root cause of the recession.
You can read more about it - yes, there was a housing bubble, it wasn't caused by government pol
Re: I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
Seriously?
The game of nuclear brinksmanship pretty much ended. The iron curtain fell as Eastern Bloc puppet states broke away from Soviet control. Millions of people gained freedom. The Berlin Wall fell. The Solidarity Union in Poland. Relations between the US and Russia improved considerably - yeah, relations with Russia now are not all that good, but it is far better than it was in the 1950's - 1980's.
If people want to lay the blame on Reagan for the debt he rang up bankrupting the USSR, it was worth it.
Re:I'm as lefty as they get (Score:5, Informative)
Okay, we got *a* shutdown [wikipedia.org], not shutdowns, under Obama because Ted Cruz and the Tea Party wing pushed for one. The rationale was they wanted to tie the budget to the debt ceiling and they wanted, again, to muck with the ACA. They bragged about getting what they wanted afterwards because of the resulting unilateral cuts.
So, surprise, Obama didn't want to sign that. I'm not aware of a rational argument on why he would want to. You can argue about whether you like(d) the ACA, whether budget cuts were a good idea, the fallout of our loss on credit rating or furloughed jobs was worth it, or whatever all you like. Obama had no interest in gutting his own health care bill. Duh. I'd also like to think we agree that the concept of the debt ceiling isn't relevant right now how much Congress spends (regardless of where they spend).
I've been hre longer than you (Score:4, Insightful)
Slashdot, you are better than this.
No, we're not. This site is about weird racist memes, goatse and penis bird. There may nothing beneath us.
Re:I don't get it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would anyone want this information?
The only reason for a list like this is to encourage harassment of these individuals just for working somewhere that asshole doesn't agree with.
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Why would anyone want this information?
The only reason for a list like this is to encourage harassment of these individuals just for working somewhere that asshole doesn't agree with.
That's been the way of the left for quite some time. Examples include Antifa goons beating up people they disagree about and trolls harassing people who simply donated money to a side they disagree with. All the things the left accuses others of are what they do day in and day out.
Citation:
https://www.catholicnewsagency... [catholicnewsagency.com]
Re: I don't get it. (Score:3)
Calling this "heinous action" is the most recent version of calling anyone to the right of Stalin a Nazi.
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Re: I don't get it. (Score:2)
Of course not. Jesus is pissed that he's being prosecuted and that his kids are off with a foster family. Too fucking bad, Jesus. Should have thought of that before jumping the fence.
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I'm not a religious person... and I'm guessing you aren't either. The difference, is I'm not trying to use my out of date and incomplete understanding of other peoples religions to try to guilt trip them into things which I want.
Your facts are wrong though, you may want to look up, remember:
I do, I did pay some attention in CCD. Unlike say... Islam, most of the original teachings of Christianity are not based around politi
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Re: I don't get it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Generally, if government officials are using that passage to defend themselves or justify their actions they tend to be in a bad way. It was used as one of the scriptural bases for the Divine Right of Kings, opposition to the American Revolution, and by pro-slavery forces to justify adherence to the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. More recently it has been used as a support by the apartheid government of South Africa.
When Romans 13:1-7 is cited while ignoring the next couple of passages (Romans 13:8-10) it's pretty obvious that it is being used for dubious ends, as that goes:
I'm not a biblical scholar, nor am I a well-versed adherent to the Pauline epistles, but I do have a hard time seeing any love in this.
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Does Mexico Not Let the Kids In? (Score:2)
Re: I don't get it. (Score:2, Funny)
Totally; they should be sending the kids and parents to prison together. Serves those little bastards right for being born to a family of criminals!
Glad to find another enlightened individuals such as yourself on Slashdot.
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Yeah, cunts like you always play the "empathy" card when they run out of arguments to make. No, you don't have any more empathy than I do; you are, however, significantly bereft of intelligence and honesty.
When you've had the time to do some more mental gymnastics and figure out an argument for why someone who commits the crime of theft can be imprisoned without their kids, but someone who breaks immigration law cannot, you let me know. I'm sure it will be quite entertaining.
Re: I don't get it. (Score:2)
Did you even start, junior?
Re: Do not take your children overseas right now (Score:2)
You're being ridiculous. Please cut it out.
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The parents could always, you know, not violate US immigration law. I know, crazy idea!
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I will endeavor not to smuggle my child across another nation's border illegally. Thanks for the tip.
Re: Didn't take MS to start fucking up github (Score:5, Informative)
GitHub's decline started long before the Microsoft acquisition. When they forced out the founder and declared meritocracy, and by extension merit, unwelcome.
Venture capital turns everything it touches into evil shit. Not just evil, not just shitty - evil & shitty.
Re:Didn't take MS to start fucking up github (Score:5, Interesting)
The far left lunatics they've let run the company have removed projects and banned people on purely political grounds, made it very easy to add extremely broad codes of conduct with a focus on "If someone claims they've felt slighted the guilty one must be punished reality and plain sense be damned" types and implemented loads of asinine "diversity" policies like restricting certain positions based on race and putting an end to mentoring new hires because of how their diversity drive has lead to to many cases of minorities and women being mentored by white men.
Re:Github? Really? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, to me its deletion from GitHub is pretty obvious--it's not a program or data for a program, of course it ought to go--and I'm a bit disgusted by the double-standards of a lot of the people here. Would the people here be as offended if the list deleted was, say, "LGBT employees of Google"? How about "Non-White Health Care Workers in Random City"? These kinds of lists are a problem because they invite harassment of the people on the list--and it's disturbing to see people thinking it's somehow okay to do this when it's the 'right' people getting harassed, because that basically means that you will have to be careful about expressing any ideas which might risk you at some point (now or in the future) finding yourself on one of those lists...and that won't protect you against being included by accident or because somebody wanting revenge or a petty power play.