Red Hat Takes Over Maintenance of OpenJDK 8 and OpenJDK 11 From Oracle (infoworld.com) 55
"Red Hat is taking over maintenance responsibilities for OpenJDK 8 and OpenJDK 11 from Oracle," reports InfoWorld:
Red Hat will now oversee bug fixes and security patches for the two older releases, which serve as the basis for two long-term support releases of Java. Red Hat's updates will feed into releases of Java from Oracle, Red Hat, and other providers... Previously, Red Hat led the OpenJDK 6 and OpenJDK 7 projects. Red Hat is not taking over OpenJDK 9 or OpenJDK 10, which were short-term releases with a six-month support window.
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There's as much SystemD Derangement Syndrome around here as Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I suppose it's easier than reading the manpages. We should start racing them for pink slips on startup time.
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You don't suck at being trolled.
You're flipping around in the bottom of the boat, in fact.
Too bad. He doesn't have a livewell or a stringer.
Suck air, dude.
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person who does not administer a lot of systems detected
systemd is badly designed
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Do you wear a t-shirt that says 'troll me about systemd'?
Or are you Lennart himself?
"The system you designed" is the telling point. The traditional unix init system wasn't designed by some dude. It has a long historical lineage. It was designed by everybody.
That's kinda the point, and it's called the Unix Philosophy.
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While I don't disagree, the question becomes, "If not SystemD, then what?" The old init system is crap. People "like" it because they're used to it. This is the same reason people stick to Windows.
So why arn't there viable alternatives? Ubuntu used to have upstart. I'm sure there are others. Why is nobody pushing an alternative to init that doesn't have Facebook-level tendrils into the rest of the OS?
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some distributions do have alternative init systems, and note the BSD don't have systemd . funny a person competent at writing an init script won't have problem with any of those simpler systems
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I didn't like systemd too much either so I started looking around.
Here's the easy way to get rid of it...
https://freebsd.org/
After seeing Linux people make so much jokes about BSD, that plus Linux systemd mess... well I decided I had to try it.
I was amazed how simple, coherent, and well thought out the system was.
The install seemed a bit old school 80x25, but it's effective.
The kernel and base utilities are all done in house... such that the linux kernel + a
bunch of other base tools off the net that the lin
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AFAIK, all of the BSD's seem to have active projects to streamline remaining copyright variations in their theme. However FreeBSD and OpenBSD in particular only accept code that is copyright compatible with the current copyright policy of their respective projects. GPL is expressly not compatible due to its added restrictions. And any incompatible code and tools are being slowly rewritten and or removed from the kernel and base and being replaced. That's pretty cool :) The remaining things will take a while
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While i cant stand or trust Oracle at all.. Im not overly trusting of Redhat either.
I assume Pottering will get involved and tie it to sysD now?
That will make bug fix/integration easier as he'll just mark everything, "Won't fix." :-)
IBM own's Redhat. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Better than Oracle. Not by much mind you, but it's still an improvement.
God had risen (Score:1)
Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia!
Crap (Score:2, Informative)
Hope my boss doesn't read this.
I just convinced him to spend $10k on Java licenses with Oracle.
Which, by the way, was one of the most frustrating experiences of my professional career.
Oracle is *so terrible*:
* Buying the licenses was a pain.
* Associating the purchases licenses with a support account was a pain.
* Using the support account to find or download anything was a pain.
I will be happy to just deal with RedHat's RPM releases instead.
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This is Red Hat taking over maintenance control of several of the older versions of the JDK.
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Given the comical difficulties in deploying and integrating Oracle JDK with a working environment, the unpredictable download locations, the confused packaging and the misnaming of the RPM packages published by Sun and later by Oracle, it would take genuine effort for Red Hat to do worse. Many projects have switched from Oracle Java to OpenJDK in the last 5 years due to just such unreliability and instability.
Please Open the Java Bug Database (Score:5, Insightful)
Unlike Oracle, Red Hat Bugzilla needs no Company (Score:2)
Red Hat has a public Bugzilla server. See its list of new issues in the past 24 hours [redhat.com]. And there appears to be nothing blocking a concerned individual from creating a Fedora account [fedoraproject.org].
Using Oracle's bug reporting (such as its MySQL issue database [mysql.com]) requires an Oracle account, and the sign-up form [oracle.com] for such an account lists Job Title and Company as required fields. If someone is signing up as an individual (not on behalf of a company), I haven't figured out what to put in these fields. Is this supposed to serve