Chrome 74 Arrives With Less Motion Sickness, New JavaScript Features (venturebeat.com) 60
An anonymous reader quotes a report from VentureBeat: Google today launched Chrome 74 for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, and iOS. The release includes support for a reduced motion media query, private class fields, feature policy improvements, and more developer features. You can update to the latest version now using Chrome's built-in updater or download it directly from google.com/chrome.
Motion sickness in the browser is a real thing. Android provides an accessibility option to reduce motion whenever possible, as shown above in the âoeremove animationsâ setting. Chrome is now taking that a step further so websites can limit motion sickness when viewing parallax scrolling, zooming, and other motion effects. Chrome 74 introduces prefers-reduced-motion (part of Media Queries Level 5) that allows websites to honor when an operating system is set to limit motion effects. This might not seem like a big deal today, but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects. Check out the full changelog for more information on this release.
Motion sickness in the browser is a real thing. Android provides an accessibility option to reduce motion whenever possible, as shown above in the âoeremove animationsâ setting. Chrome is now taking that a step further so websites can limit motion sickness when viewing parallax scrolling, zooming, and other motion effects. Chrome 74 introduces prefers-reduced-motion (part of Media Queries Level 5) that allows websites to honor when an operating system is set to limit motion effects. This might not seem like a big deal today, but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects. Check out the full changelog for more information on this release.
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> but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects.
s/if/when/
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And this will not help at all for the advertisement popups
wut? ad popup? if you see any kind of ads while browsing you're doing it wrong, and you're part of the problem.
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I watched the video and no examples of how a browser can induce motion sickness.
Is this something that actually affects more than 1-2 normal people in the world?
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That's very interesting indeed, I'd not seen anything like that before. I'm still not sure, however, how something like that would give the normal user any type of motion sickness to the point of needing to throw up and requiring a browser switch to remove it, other than the next or back button.
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Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:2)
All animation outside of videos should just go away
I disagree. A document consisting of text and vector images with mild animation can appear more attractive to the majority of readers than a completely static document. But because it's text, it's smaller in bytes and more accessible to users of screen readers or other assistive devices than an MPEG-4 or WebM video. I do concede that readers with attention disabilities might prefer a static document over either an animated one or a video, and the feature described in the article appears useful to accommodat
Re:Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:5, Insightful)
A document consisting of text and vector images with mild animation can appear more attractive to the majority of readers than a completely static document.
True, but the logical conclusion of that is the clickbait, pop-up hell that advertisers keep trying to turn the web into.
Appealing to the lowest common denominator in order to get more views is not the path to developing worthwhile content. Sometimes it's better if things don't appeal to the widest audience.
Re: Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:2)
Java. Write once, run everywhere. It even runs on your toaster and fridge.
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Say someone wants a platform on which to build interactive applications that run on all five major client operating systems (Windows, macOS, X11/Linux, iOS, and Android) and do not require permanent installation to a device.
Java. Write once, run everywhere.
1. Since when do applications made for Java run on iOS?
2. Web browsers no longer support Java applets, and Oracle has since removed Java Web Start from the platform. What means of deploying applications made for Java does "not require permanent installation to a device"?
Re: Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:2)
something like: java -jar $(wget -qO- http://examle.com/my.jar [examle.com]) should work for running without installation.
Re: Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:2)
Sorry, meant: (wget ...)
Re: Vector animation is smaller than video (Score:2)
Fuck slashdot, it's eating characters; you get the point, hopefully.
Budget constraint on porting a native application (Score:2)
As for developing for multiple platforms, maybe don't be lazy and just write native code targeting each platform?
It isn't necessarily "laziness" as much as budget. The developer of an application, whether a hobbyist, a startup, or an established company, has a finite amount of money and time (which is money) with which to deliver an application to its audience. I guess a developer could make an application available as a web application without charge or as a native application behind a paywall to recoup the cost of redundant development. In this case, I doubt many users would choose the paywalled native version.
In ad
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If you don't run the platform(s) I support, then you don't have to use my software. Especially if it's some niche platform that's not worth my time to support. I don't see where the problem is.
Which platforms do you consider mainstream, and which niche?
You missed that those are all simple websites where plain HTML with forms would suffice, no scripting necessary.
"Get n More Comments" in the footer of each Slashdot article's comment section requires scripting, as the new comments are inserted into the existing DOM. Reloading the page is not equivalent, as if there are already 100 or more comments, reloading the page causes your view to lose comments that are not among the highest scored.
Every application we use has to be approved for security/licensing reasons, and it's typically only a few days to wait for it to be approved or a comparable alternative provided. Web apps could also be blocked by the corporate firewall.
How does your employer expect you to remain productive during said "few days" while you are waiting for approval?
You don't get to request a whole different machine just because you're a special snowflake who wants to run just Program A on macOS/Linux even though everybody else is already using comparable Program B on the IT-provided Windows machines.
Unless Pr
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A document consisting of text and vector images with mild animation can appear more attractive to the majority of readers than a completely static document.
I find women attractive. Not documents. I read the contents of documents. Such contents can be interesting. Documents are not 'attractive'.
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Allow me to rephrase my claim more rigorously:
Illustrations help to hold the interest of the able-bodied reader of a document. Mildly animated illustrations can hold the reader's interest even more efficiently.
Chrome 74! Now with less vomiting! (Score:4, Funny)
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prefers-reduced-motion sounds ok, I guess, maybe (Score:2, Interesting)
This might not seem like a big deal today, but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects.
Maybe I missed something, but wouldn't the same websites that are abusing motion be the ones who would have to implement a prefers-reduced-motion version? I would think that anyone who is aware of and takes the time to implement prefers-reduced-motion very likely isn't abusing it too much to begin with...the people who are abusing it are the ones who go out of their way to make sure you can't turn it off (for advertising and other reasons).
Notice and shakedown (Score:2)
the people who are abusing it are the ones who go out of their way to make sure you can't turn it off (for advertising and other reasons).
Accessibility in media queries could be the first step toward "We gave you a way to make your web application accessible to viewers with disabilities. Use it or we'll take action." It could start with naming and shaming. If that doesn't work, watch Google's DoubleClick division bankroll the next National Federation of the Blind v. Target Corp. [wikipedia.org] against websites using competing ad networks that don't respect accessibility features.
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'... but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects.' so you're saying any day now?
I'd guess that google sites may be the first to start abusing motion effects. It would annoy those with non-google browsers. It's a part of google's effort to lock up the web. Unlike Apple's Walled Garden, google looks to be moving towards a Walled Prison.
Just stop jumping around when loading (Score:1)
That gives me the most sickness. I click on a text field but as soon as I do it takes me somewhere else because they meant to put a banner there. Happens all the time on wikipedia. Most of the time I have to click on the search field 3 times to finally get the keyboard up and cursor at the right place.
Pretty much sums up accessability stupidity.. (Score:1)
Blah blah blah: "This might not seem like a big deal today, but it could be very useful if websites start abusing motion effects."
It's a ridiculous legacy system based on pushing the responsibility onto as many people as possible. The people who build browsers should build accessible browsers - not create hundreds of opt-in edge cases.
Your browser should read the web how you like it. If you ex
I use PaleMoon you Insensitive Clod (Score:2)
I never really liked Chrome's UI.. and when FireFox changed things to try and be more Chrome-Like I opted out with the PaleMoon fork.
I finally kind of made my peace with FireFox by implementing a bit of UserChrome.css and with a few extensions.. but Chrome is still too .. Chrome-y for me and I use it when my ad-blocked/noscript blocked/flash blocked PaleMoon and/or FireFox won't let me use a site I really need to use.. It's kind of my "ok, I need to use this site and I trust it enough to be willing to foreg
can it handle cuntyquotes? (Score:2)
Can it handle cuntyquotes (awithahatonandanumloutTMfuckknowsisitcyrillic)
Client-side fix (Score:2)
Is there a client-side fix for this BS? Not being able to handle extended chars was kinda funny back in 1998 but at this point it's ridiculous.
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It would be pretty easy to write a user script that did a search and replace on the body for the telltale signs of Slashdot being pathetic, and removed them.
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Back in 1998, the problem was slightly different.
The web defaulted to using ISO-8859-1 as character set, but MS Windows used an extended variant of that had the left-and-right quotation marks. Microsoft's web tools happily added those, which made web pages look bad everywhere but on Windows.
Nowadays, the web defaults to utf-8 ... But modern browsers and tools are very well aware of different character sets.
If Slashdot's admin would just put configure the servers to set the HTTP header field Content-Type: te
No problem (Score:2)
Motion sickness in the browser is a real thing.
I think there's a Dramamine [wikipedia.org] app for that. It'll fix your browser right up.
Click Tracking? (Score:1)
User preferences matter (Score:2)
...that allows websites to honor when an operating system is set to limit motion effects.
Allows to honor? Yeah, that worked out really well for Do Not Track.