GitLab Director Resigns, Says It's Engaging In 'Retaliatory Behavior' (businessinsider.com) 44
Candice Ciresi, GitLab's director of risk and global compliance, has resigned after less than six months on the job, apparently saying that the $2.75 billion startup is "engaging in discriminatory and retaliatory behavior." Business Insider reports: Notably, Ciresi resigned in public: GitLab espouses a culture of transparency, whereby all major product and corporate policy decisions are announced and discussed where anybody can see. She posted her resignation in response to one such discussion -- an active debate over a proposed GitLab policy, in which it would ban the hiring of people who live in China or Russia for any role that would require access to customer data. At the time of writing, Ciresi's post announcing her resignation had been reviewed and then "redacted" by GitLab, citing concerns that it would "further inflame this situation." However, Ciresi's comment went out via email to GitLab users who had subscribed to this particular discussion.
Per a screenshot posted to Reddit, Ciresi wrote: "As I believe GitLab is engaging in discriminatory and retaliatory behavior, I have tendered my resignation." "We did decide to moderate this post for review, as there have already been credible personal and physical threats against GitLab employees in this issue thread," GitLab says, in part, in place of Ciresi's comment. "While this particular post did not contain a personal threat to anyone, we were concerned it would further inflame this situation." GitLab confirmed Ciresi's departure but didn't comment any further.
Per a screenshot posted to Reddit, Ciresi wrote: "As I believe GitLab is engaging in discriminatory and retaliatory behavior, I have tendered my resignation." "We did decide to moderate this post for review, as there have already been credible personal and physical threats against GitLab employees in this issue thread," GitLab says, in part, in place of Ciresi's comment. "While this particular post did not contain a personal threat to anyone, we were concerned it would further inflame this situation." GitLab confirmed Ciresi's departure but didn't comment any further.
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Even if someone threatened to kill me on the internet I’d probably just laugh it off. A lot of the tough guy keyboar
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I've been threatened dozens of times. I used to give out my address and invite people to come to my house and rumble, which obviously never happened. But now I'm concerned about SWATting.
Nobody who threatens people on the internet has the courage to fight in the real world. They do it to feel powerful, because they aren't.
Re:Nope (Score:4, Interesting)
And yet very similar threats are made and then the victim's property is vandalized. Maybe not by the original person who did the threat, but there are enough morons out there who see follow these discussions on the internet and then feel it is their duty to be the enforcer behind threats and conspiracy theorists and whatnot. Witness the moron involved in the pizzagate nonsense, and those stalking parents of Sandy Hook victims. All it takes is for one guy to get a bit too drunk, or a bit too angry, and decide to fix that problem with the snowflake. Flame wars don't always stay on the internet anymore.
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And yet very similar threats are made and then the victim's property is vandalized.
Happened to us when my wife filed to run for city council.
- Phone threats on the answering machine.
- One incident of eggs thrown at our front porch.
Nothing further though. Also, the eggs were the pricey "Eggland's Best" brand, so it pretty clearly was somebody upscale.
Other candidates' campaign signs kept disappearing from our, their, and their other supporters' lawans - until we gave them some "tanglefoot" a
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GitLab said "credible threats" which usually means they had the person's home address, or maybe threatened to come to their workplace which has a public address. Unfortunately that sort of thing does happen, e.g. that woman who went and shot some people at one of Google's offices over some issue with her YouTube channel a couple of years ago.
They have to take such things seriously because if they don't and someone gets shot they will be hit with a lawsuit.
Remember the pipe bomber nut? (Score:2)
The Trump supporter who sent bombs to a lot of high profile people and CNN? I don't think his mom had a basement but wasn't he living with her and in his van?
Most are full of shit; including the real life bar thugs whose size and fat are like keyboards to the online wimps. Nobody dies from whatever actions they make; maybe some people get hurt for a while. It's the 1 in a million that you hear about that makes people irrationally react to everything like they've won the bad luck lottery. Every rare nut mak
Start up (Score:3)
Can you really call a company worth $2.75 billion a "start up"?
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I think "start up" has come to mean "we don't have a profitable business model, so we need constant rounds of financing to keep us out of bankruptcy."
Russia (Score:1)
Paywall.. (Score:1)
Main article is paywalled, and summary is a mishmash of random words. All I can gather is someone quit her job, and something about Gitlab blocking Chinese/Russians from sensitive data, and someone being retaliatory about..something.
Might as well say "Marmaduke pretty bells with occam sandals at 12:00pm last yellow.".
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Main article is paywalled, and summary is a mishmash of random words. All I can gather is someone quit her job, and something about Gitlab blocking Chinese/Russians from sensitive data, and someone being retaliatory about..something.
Near as I can tell it's: GibLab discussed whether to ban hiring from China or Russia where sensitive data was concerned, causing a snowflake to have a feel.
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It is racist and prejudiced. All they had to do was require a security clearance for all people and leave it to the government. In doing it, Gitlab were sending out the message that people should not hire Americans, none, because NSA, CIA and laws saying it is legal for them to break other countries law, no limitation.
There is no escaping the racism and prejudice implied nor the consequence of racism from the rest of the world. So who is more untrustworthy an American potential CIA spy or a Russian spy or a
National origin is part of hate crime law (Score:1)
It's racist to block all members from a threatening state to not work in your state?
The U.S. Department of Justice website states that U.S. law defines a "hate crime" [justice.gov] as a crime "committed on the basis of the victim’s perceived or actual race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability." So in the broad sense of "racism" as prejudice against an ethnicity, national origin prejudice is indeed "racist."
Incidentally, this definition implies that violations of title VII of the Civil Rights Act [aauw.org] and some Americans with Disabilities Act provi
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Marmaduke pretty bells with occam sandals at 12:00pm last yellow.
message received. purple tiger acknowledges. The rooster flies west.
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Good (Score:4)
While the whole thing seems a snowflake having a melt-down, at least she stood up for her principles. It really doesn't matter how much or little those principles make sense. Good for her.
As for Github, they probably can survive losing a director of "improving up the gender quota".
I wish her all the best in her future. May she reap what she sowed.
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Github actually hires all over the world and is completely remote. So this is sort of an issue for them. But I can't say i disagree with the steps they have to take to remain a profitable business, especially with an IPO looming.
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This story is actually about gitlab, not github.
Re: Good (Score:1)
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"Risk and Global Compliance" is an important role for a multinational company. Have you noticed how some US companies seem to think that the EU is basically the same and then end up getting massive fines for breaking laws there? That's what Global Compliance is.
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LOL apparently having a Risk and Global Compliance officer now puts you are risk of triggering a snowflake who doesn't like Risk and Global Compliance.
What a world we live in where people can't even handle Risk and Global Compliance.
This is what courts deal with constantly... (Score:2)
Your entire legal system is based on that! (Score:1)
'retaliatory behavior' is literally the definition of 'punishment' in legal systems.
Yes, the concept of reacting to something you defined as harm, with doing that very same harm to its source, is insanely retarded, self-contradictingly inconsistent and (obviously) harmful, even to oneself. Not that that did ever stop any homo retardis who still iive in the dark ages. Even though they have a common schizophrenic alter ego (Jesus, or other names) that teaches them the wrogness of that very concept since at le
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PULEASE! (Score:2)
EVERY company is discriminating in one way or another - get over it! hell my company openly discriminates against the male gender! Hell the VP of HR even verbally told me I couldn't get into leadership mentorship program because I was not a female and not a male looking to transition INTO a female. What can be done NOT A DAMN THING except quit. I have NO Loyalty to companies like this.If you don't like their policies - LEAVE! Because you can't do a DAMN thing about them - except violate them in protest.
Maybe self-hosting is best (Score:2)
Wow. Between this and that snafu with running proprietary telemetry harvesting on their site, GitLab is not having a good month.