Tech Job Slump Hits Coding Bootcamp Graduates as AI Reshapes Industry (nytimes.com) 18
U.S. software developer job listings have plummeted 56% since 2019, according to CompTIA data, as coding bootcamp graduates face mounting challenges from AI tools and widespread tech industry layoffs.
For entry-level positions, postings have dropped even further at 67%. The downturn has forced several bootcamps to adapt or close. Boston's Launch Academy suspended operations in May after job placement rates fell from 90% to below 60%. Meanwhile, AI coding tools like ChatGPT and GitHub's Copilot are transforming the industry, with Google reporting that AI now generates over 25% of its new code.
"This is the worst environment for entry-level tech jobs I've seen in 25 years," said Menlo Ventures partner Venky Ganesan.
For entry-level positions, postings have dropped even further at 67%. The downturn has forced several bootcamps to adapt or close. Boston's Launch Academy suspended operations in May after job placement rates fell from 90% to below 60%. Meanwhile, AI coding tools like ChatGPT and GitHub's Copilot are transforming the industry, with Google reporting that AI now generates over 25% of its new code.
"This is the worst environment for entry-level tech jobs I've seen in 25 years," said Menlo Ventures partner Venky Ganesan.
Repeat article on the same page? (Score:2)
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https://news.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org]
Apparently one can neither overdose on AI hype nor doom-saying, especially in the same article.
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Unsure if msmash is a script or an AI (Score:3)
...at any rate, the amounts of dupes is outright laughable.
Why are we even here? To reply to articles thrown up by a bot or script?
Vete 'pal carajo con esta mierda.
artifical people learn artificial language (Score:2, Interesting)
I use ChatGPT to help write my website because I don't know JavaScript and it does. I generate the content, but the HTML, CSS, and scripts are all artificial BS that I am happy to leave to the machine to do for me. Computer languages are artificial and I don't WANT to learn them, the bots are better at it and that is BETTER
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"I don't WANT to learn," said the five-digit UID on Slashdot.
kind of funny (Score:2)
20-25 years ago, the same thing happened. Companies realized that hiring people just because they passed a boot camp and had a certificate in XYZ was a terrible idea.
Simultaneously, a new set of technologies (open source/Linux) were being widely adopted into the workplace, and they needed people who understood it. So they started hiring whoever could do the job because they had experience with these new tools.
We really need an apprenticeship and trade school for tech work. I get that it's supposed to be "a
tech needs to more trade school like with less the (Score:2)
tech needs to more trade school like with less theory and faster updates to course work in school.
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Companies realized that hiring people just because they passed a boot camp and had a certificate in XYZ was a terrible idea.
...We really need an apprenticeship and trade school for tech work. I get that it's supposed to be "a profession", but in practice it's not. No four year school will prepare you for the reality of working in the industry. You need to learn a lot more, and some of it is book knowledge, but a lot is also practical skills.
A certificate from one of these "boot camps" has no value on its own. They teach for a test that you take at the end of the camp. It doesn't show proficiency or knowledge learned. I agree 100% with your point about apprenticeships being the best way to find and develop talent. In my opinion, most jobs would be better served by hiring through apprenticeships. You learn what employers actually value by working with someone who is still actively employed in the profession.
The Software Guild (Score:4, Interesting)
Boot Camp!? forget it chumps. That's just about the people selling you "Boot Camp" for their own profit. You're still a novice after a boot camp.
All specialty knowledge domains are being slurped up by LLMs right now, the idea is to put all programmers out of work and keep the intellectual property private and owned. Software as a profession will be obsolete... Not that LLMs are going to do a GOOD job of it atm, but in the interim, the real brainy people will be bought up to write better algorithms, to tweak the LLMs. At some point those people will close ranks and form a Guild. Which is nearly the same idea as a monopoly on knowledge in an arbitrary domain.
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Ever
Re: The Software Guild (Score:2)
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Boston's Launch Academy suspended operations in May after job placement rates fell from 90% to below 60%
So it seems that they actually were useful in doing more that "boot camping" they were actually placing these new students in entry level jobs at a 90% rate.
Vanity! (Score:4, Insightful)
How long ago was it that we read, on this very site, about Silly Valley wonks braying yet again about how public education needed computer and coding classes? Oh yeah, here it is from about a month ago: https://developers.slashdot.or... [slashdot.org]
So which is it folks? Do we need universal coding courses to prepare young people for employment in our glorious tech-company-defined future? Or are those future skills already obsolete as a result of AI?
I'm tempted to say that this confuses me, but it really doesn't. The jerk-offs making these pronouncements are simultaneously greedy, power mad suckers to their own PR propaganda, and clueless fuckwits who are making it all up as they go. What DOES confuse me is our society's collective assumption that their success in a rigged system gives them the sense, knowledge, and wisdom to define educational policy. Why we continue to listen to them, when they've proven both their incompetence and their psychopathy so repeatedly, is totally beyond me.
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We need more advqance programmers ... (Score:2)
...but we don't need junior programmers anymore - just advanced programmers with 5 years experience
Just like every other job
Real-life example? (Score:2)
I'd love to see an actual real-life example of AI coding or AI Assisted coding starting from an idea to a finished program. It may be an 8 hour YouTube stream or have some one do an edited example (editing out all the time the programmer looks something up on Google!). I really want to see what AI actual does that works.
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I'd love to see an actual real-life example of AI coding
So would a lot of now disappointed people who discovered that AI can't code.