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OSI Announces Open Source Awards 162
JohnGrahamCumming writes "There's a story running on ZDNet about how OSI is going to be giving Open Source Awards with cash prizes of up to $10,000. The idea is to create the "Nobel Prizes" of Open Source. Announcement was made yesterday as OSCON with some big names backing the awards (e.g. Sun, OSAF and (interestingly) a major venture capital firm USVP)."
Flabbergasted! (Score:5, Funny)
*ducks*
Re:Flabbergasted! (Score:4, Funny)
$10,000! ... An Indian programming outfit could run off that kind of funding for years to come!
That's the Grand Master award, you've gotta be RMS or someone to get that. Most of the awards are $500--you're going to have to find Bangladeshi programmers...
Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:1, Interesting)
But really, if one was to write such a super OSS program, wouldn't he be hired by a big corporation and paid at least ten times that amount?
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:1)
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:3, Informative)
For many people on the earth that's a large sum.
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:1, Redundant)
Well, most people in the world live on $2 per day.
$2/day? That's not even enough to eat around here, let alone write software.
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:2)
Nice perspective... However, these people are not likely the ones to run to their keyboards, code something and then collect either.
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:3, Informative)
But really, if one was to write such a super OSS program, wouldn't he be hired by a big corporation and paid at least ten times that amount?
Transmeta isn't exactly a big corporation, and considering that the Sr. VP of Worldwide Sales only makes $262K a year I'm not even sure Linus is making $100K. And that's the big guy, the supreme God of open source software. I'm sure there are lesser mortals in the OSS world making less than $100K.
Re:Holy Whackamolly! We've Got Chips! (Score:1)
Hooray! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hooray! (Score:1)
This is remarkable for an alpha project! I'm sure it will win.
Obviously (Score:2)
Re:Hooray! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hooray! (Score:1)
I've been thinking of a cool project to do recently as i think it would be benifitial to so many people and there doesnt seem to be anything like it around (program and combined licence).
So this could be the incentive to pull my finger out. Also, this type of this could also attract contributer and customers to your particular Open source product!
Great Idea!!!
LinuxFund (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Hooray! (Score:2)
Re:Hooray! (Score:2)
Here's what it does... (Score:2)
Big factors keeping people from using it:
1. no GUI
2. requires a local PostgreSQL install
Both will be fixed soon by the addition of a Swing GUI and a publically available DB server.
Bet it still won't be very popular though...
Re:Here's what it does... (Score:2)
Isn't PostgreSQL publically available?
Re:Here's what it does... (Score:2)
Re:Hooray! (Score:1)
Maybe we should form a club. So we can swap tips on how not to get people interested.
Of course not (Score:2)
Contribute toe? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hooray! (Score:2)
And I'm barely able to tell what this can do for me but I'm interested.
So then (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So then (Score:1)
Re:So then (Score:2)
Sun (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Sun (Score:1)
you're expecting too much (Score:2)
I thought we decided that Sun was evil this week. Did I miss a memo?
Heh, you're expecting proper cronological order from this editorial staff? Oh, but don't worry- they'll get the order right next time they post the stories. Failing that, third time's the charm.
This week, you're it (Score:2)
Awards.... (Score:3, Funny)
This post, Winner, 2003
Best Slashdot Post
Best Use of Consonants in Slashdot Post
Louis K. Albright Award for Achievement in Punctuation
.
Re:Awards.... (Score:3, Funny)
Slashdot is the last Web site I'd expect to see take this one home...
an obvious omission! (Score:2)
What don't they give awards for nowadays?
Best Slashdot Post
Best Use of Consonants in Slashdot Post
You're forgetting the obvious award for our dear editors!
Most # of Dupes
Re:Awards.... (Score:2)
But you, my friend, only used one period, one question mark, and... two commas! Whereas I have exceeded that number and introduced an exclamation mark preceeded by an ellipsis (for suspense) in my first sentance, thus impacting the reader in a more substantial manner.
Haven't you heard that less is more?
-a
About time (Score:1)
Go OSI.
Re:About time (Score:1, Insightful)
It's nice that these awards are coming out, because maybe it
Re:About time (Score:2, Insightful)
Nobody deserves money for anything they produce unless they can and do sell it for money.
This view of production is quite naive. Alot of stuff is produced that is not sold, even though the producers get money for their work. An example is mathematicians that produce mathematical knowledge, and are paid for their work by grants and/or saleries. Most mathematics that are produced are certainly not gon
Re:About time (Score:1)
This view of production is quite naive. Alot of stuff is produced that is not sold, even though the producers get money for their work. An example is mathematicians that produce mathematical knowledge, and are paid for their work by grants and/or saleries. Most mathematics that are produced are certainly not gonna be "sold" in the near future, if ever.
What the original poster is kind of true. Under PURE capitalism, what you are saying will likely not be true. Once capitalists are done implementing their
Re:About time (Score:1)
There no such thing as pure capitalism. There are quite variations, where the current US neo-liberal type is very dominant. Communism may be concidered a form of state capitalism. Scandinavian countries have a mixture of state and private capitalism.
For example, once schools are privatized (I mean ALL schools; not one here and there), chances of people producing knowledge or work for the public good will almost become extinct
History s
Re:About time (Score:1)
There no such thing as pure capitalism.
You are right: there isn't a place that practices pure capitalism anywhere. However, the end goal of capitalists is pure capitalism. It may take 150 years, but they are striving to get there. USA may not be be pure capitalist but it is moving in that direction by the day. Consider the fact that USA has actually privatized prisons (only a few but still). What's next? The small police forces? Many "influential" people in USA want schools to be privatized (because pu
Re:About time (Score:1)
Greenspan said something to the effect that the big tax cuts is a redistribution of wealth, and would not help the economy on the short term. The strong drive in US to privatize might be seen in this light. Similar things are happening in Europe as we
This is great! (Score:1)
coolio (Score:4, Funny)
Is it split? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Is it split? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Is it split? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Is it split? (Score:2)
> who make the most contribution
If PMD [sf.net] gets one of these, I'll use some of the money to buy a nice compiler theory [amazon.com] book for anyone who's willing to write a better symbol table implementation.
Re:Is it split? (Score:2)
A lot of the larger open source projects have non-profit corporations behind them, so any rewards could go there. Apache, Mozilla, Free Standards Group, GNU, SPI (Debian's corporation), and quite a few more.
I'd prefer if such a large reward could go somewhere with financial oversight rather than a founder. If it's
Re:CommentTrack1 (Score:2)
LETS LAY OFF MORE PEOPLE (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:LETS LAY OFF MORE PEOPLE (Score:1)
Re:LETS LAY OFF MORE PEOPLE (Score:2, Interesting)
You say that OSS guys get into it, then companies go bankrupt when some vendors pick up the OSS version. That's not the case though - when there's a proprietary and OSS version of something, then there's options and competition - one doesn't preclude the other. IE, Apache is recognized and kicks much ass, but you don't see websphere or IIS etc going away.
You also say people work on it for free, only the
Re:LETS LAY OFF MORE PEOPLE (Score:2)
All I know is there's a million unemployed programmers out there, companies are going out of business left and right, and when I post a job req on monster.com, it gets 200 responses in the first week. Guys with 20 years experience are applying for testing jobs, and new grads don't stand a chance.
Of course, you may say that this is due to the economy in general, but it would be wrong to discount the effect of OSS. Linux may not have overtak
open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:1)
Open-source + Free Software = Software Revolution ...at least I think so :)
You know... The same thoughts entered my mind when I first encountered the whole notion of open-source and free software years ago. For the sake of simplicity, I am going to replace open-source and free software as OSFSF and am going to assume that they are identical in the context of this article (I think it is a valid position to take, especially since most open-source software is free).
I am still not sure what to make of it.
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:2)
The majority of OSFSF advocates claim to be capitalists (at least the ones that argue with me). They don't care whether or not OSFSF puts programmers out of work. All they care about is some libertarian ideal. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that Richard Stallman is pretty far to the left.
One thing I'm sure of is that OSFSF will drive down salaries. Sure, some pr
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:1)
If there are lower margins, clearly salaries must fall...When margins are high, companies don't need to export their workforce to Bangladore.
Your view seems to be that margins dictate salaries. I strongly disagree with this. Margins have little to do with salaries. Companies may be TEMPTED to provide higher salaries if margins are high but that is not a rule. Just look at some examples.
A lot of the manufacturers in Canada (and USA too) had fairly decent margins yet they decided to move to other count
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:2)
Incidentally, lowering costs results in lower prices for consumers. However, it also results in lower wages. A classic example is Wal-Mart, which has killed many retailers, yet provides very low prices to consumers. People who work in Wal-Mart get lower wages than the old retailers.
Yes, I completely agree. That is why I think the
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:1)
My feeling is that OS|FS will not have much of an impact on wages. The thing people fail to realize is that the programmers of these projects have to make a living. If the programmers are out of
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:2)
I can't say I speak for all leftists. However, a key underlying philosophy of the left-wing is egalitarianism. You are closer to the right-wing than the left it seems.
I think there's a lot more to right wing vs. left wing than elitism vs. pragmatism. Your classification of people into two groups seems rather extremist. Personally, I try to stay away from most *isms. (except, perhaps, pragmatism)
The egalitarian view basically implies that humans are equal, both in terms of their desires, as well as thei
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:1)
lol I'm the type that uses a lot of ISMs
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:2)
It may seem extremist but that's how things are. Since you are close to the middle, you may not be aware of the core issues that seperate people.
I doubt that. It's not like I'm sheltered from extremist opinions. I watch CNN.
We, on the left, strive to create a society where everyone is treated as equal, given the same opportunity, penalized equally, etc.
Right wingers might say the same thing, except that everyone has an equal opportunity to be a self-made man.
If anything, men look different from
Re:open-source+free software = software revolution (Score:2)
I guess you are a conservative eh? You can tell where someone is on the econopolitcal spectrum by their opinion of media. Conservatives bash CNN; liberals bash FOX; and people left of left (ie. left to far left; like me) bash all media cuz they are elitist and controlled by a few groups.
I already said I was centrist. I don't bash CNN for "being too liberal". I don't have the opportunity to bash Fox News since I don't get that station. My bashing of CNN is based on the fact that in order to get "balanced"
OSI? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:OSI? (Score:2)
And tasty, too! [216.239.51.104]
troll leveling. (Score:1, Funny)
DM Taco: The trolls appeared in a previous
Elfwind: Fine. I cast a spell. Stinking cloud!
DM Taco: Your spell has no adverse effect. In fact, the trolls seem to kind of like it.
Elfwind: Blast these foul beasts! Where is my warrior-friend Ironfist of the mountain?
Ironfist: *yawn* What's all the racket? You need somethin' boss?
Venture firm (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Venture firm (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Venture firm (Score:2, Insightful)
Vulture Capitalist’s (Score:1)
It is an interesting coincidence that the story " Sun expands Unix deal with SCO [com.com]" appeared on slashdot yesterday and Sun is a sponsor of the OSI award.
CNET Reported:
A previously secret licensee of SCO Group's Unix intellectual property has revealed its identity: Unix leader Sun Microsystems.
Sun hasn't been ashamed to try to profit from the effects of that suit. It jumped
The Award Categories (Score:3, Informative)
The Grand Master Award: This award will be given to persons with an outstanding record of contributions to the open-source and Internet cultures. Ideal candidates will have a record not only of technical excellence but of community leadership and service. Along with the recognition as Grand Master, the recipient will receive $10,000 and an invitation to serve as an elector on the collegium that issues the awards.
Merit Awards: These awards will be given four times per year for work on specific open-source or network-service projects. Recipients will be recognized at the annual event and will receive a cash award of $500.
The Special Award - These awards may occasionally be conferred at the Awards Committee's discretion as a way of recognizing praiseworthy projects or conduct not covered by the existing regular categories and experimenting with new categories. Recipients will be recognized at the annual event and will receive a cash award of $1500.
The Judges (Score:3, Informative)
Larry Augustin, a venture partner at Azure Capital Partners where he specializes in software, systems, and related IT infrastructure technologies. He currently serves on the boards of directors of VA Software Corporation (as chairman), the Open Source Development Lab, Linux International, and the Free Standards Group. Previously he was conference chairman for LinuxWorld Conference and Expo, and served on the conference advisory board. Augustin has appeared as a regular columnist in Linux Magazine, has written numerous articles, and is the author of "Hardware Design and Simulation in VAL/VHDL," published by Kluwer Academic Publishers.
Jim Gettys, a member of HP Labs' Cambridge Research Lab, currently working on making open source systems safe on handheld computers. He helped found the handhelds.org community. In 1984, Gettys started the X Window System that forms the base technology of the Linux and UNIX desktops, on which Gnome and KDE are based. Gettys worked at W3C on loan from Compaq Computer Corporation's Industry Standards and Consortia group from 1995-1999. He is the editor of the HTTP/1.1 specification (now an IETF Draft Standard).
Dr. Marshall Kirk McKusick, author, consultant, and professor on UNIX- and BSD-related subjects. While at the University of California at Berkeley, he implemented the 4.2BSD fast file system and was the research computer scientist at the Berkeley Computer Systems Research Group (CSRG), overseeing the development and release of 4.3BSD and 4.4BSD. He has been a strong advocate for the open-source movement since its inception in the mid 1980s.
Keith Packard, developer of open source software since 1986. Packard has focused on the X Window System since 1987, designing and executing large parts of the current implementation. He is currently employed by HP as a member of the Cambridge Research Laboratory working on pervasive and mobile computing. In 1999, he received a Usenix Lifetime Achievement award for his work on the X Window System.
Eric S. Raymond, observer-participant anthropologist in the Internet hacker culture. His research has helped explain the decentralized open-source model of software development that has proven so effective in the evolution of the Internet. His own software projects include one of the Internet's most widely-used email transport programs. Raymond is the co-founder of the Open Source Awards.
Guido van Rossum, creator of Python, one of the major free scripting languages. He created Python in the early 1990s at the National Research Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science in the Netherlands, and is still actively involved in the development of the language. van Rossum recently accepted a position at Elemental Security, a start-up founded by Dan Farmer.
Err, Samba is not free! (Score:2)
(see point 1.8 for details)
Thanks JohnGrahamCumming ! (Score:2)
Re:Thanks JohnGrahamCumming ! (Score:1)
I cut the press release up into pieces so that (a) you didn't read all the press release BS and (b) so that it was digestable by the Slashdot masses who rarely read articles.
John.
From the awards ceremony ... (Score:5, Funny)
The nominees in the category of Longest Lived Project to Never Release 1.0 are -
And the winner is ... the HURD! (Cue music as
RMS goes up to the stage).
</flamebait>
Re:You forgot about mplayer. (Score:2)
Is there a FUD award? (Score:2)
Except that ... (Score:1)
Re:Except that ... (Score:2)
Mind the decimal place, as well. 10M SEK = 1.25M USD.
ideology (Score:2)
USVP is a smart outfit (Score:1)
They know that companies can make great produucts and a lot of money using open source tools. Plus, if they get the companies they invest in to use said tools, they can use their capital on more important things, like Aeron chairs... oops wrong decade!
Dammit we can do this... (Score:2)
For groups you'll have to figure out how to divide the money, just give me a place to send the dough.
I donate all the time, it's small sure but I do.
In the past few months I've donated about 110 dollars. I donate to ANYTHING that gives me value and that has a way for me to do so.
I like doing it.
Re:Dammit we can do this... (Score:1)
$50
From ONE user.
People are basically dishonest, and there's no point playing on conscience as I have found most people don't have one. My user base is famed for not having money (why I do it), but it's not like I haven'
Re:Dammit we can do this... (Score:2)
They have absolutely no extra money, a lot of this couples income goes into the shelter and every contribution helps a great deal.
Your niche software really is helping shelters out, otherwise they either run on pieced together software or try and get something commercial that's specific at way too much money.
So be of good cheer the money that was not spent on the software goes to a good cause.
It would do som
Re:Dammit we can do this... (Score:1)
Thank you!
Trust the committee to be impartial? (Score:2, Interesting)
Wonder how that would affect projects that rival those people's projects to get awards? Say, Hans Reiser (reiserfs), or anything related to Perl?
Re:Trust the committee to be impartial? (Score:2, Informative)
Nominations for the awards are going to be from the public and come through me via the OSI web site. I don't have any specific tie to an OSS project (other than my own... POPFile) nor do I favor strongly any OS or language.
The idea behind the committee was to have people who've been around a long time in OSS. T
ActiveState Awards (Score:2)
Re:ActiveState Awards (Score:1)
John.
Re:This could be what we need to be ready for desk (Score:1)
Windows 3.1. Yeah. It was teh suxor there too.
KDE though ripped off Win98...
Gotta stop cloning Big Evil, guys!!
-uso.
Horrible (Score:1)
Re:/. is a significant contribution to open source (Score:1)
John.
Re:Just hold on a minute (Score:1)
John.
Re:My VOTE is for the ReactOS Project (Score:1)
Thanks,
John.
Re:and the winner is!!!! (Score:2)
Re:Open Source: serious problem here (Score:1)
I'm not sure why copying files would take that long--especially hard drive to hard drive. I know that Linux isn't so good when it comes to accessing mounted drives like CD-ROMs and floppy (floppy support is horrible in Linux right now). But hard drive should be ok. Maybe there is something wrong with your hard drive, or something is misconfigured.
As far as stability is concerned, Linux (the operating system) is very stable. You rarely ever have to reboot if something crashes or if you change your setting
Re:Open Source: serious problem here (Score:1)
Re:Open Source: serious problem here (Score:1)
Firstly your copying problem:
Check that your hdd has all the necessary DMA etc. flags on for performance. Use hdparm if necessary. What filesystems are you using? How full is the disk? I know that windows will start choking with fragmentation on FAT32 and NTFS volumes with anything less than 500MB free (with or without a pagefile).
Yes, these are problems that are usually transparent in Windows, but if you're going to run linux (for whatever perceived benefit this
Re:Open Source? More like Openly Racist (Score:1)
Only read the first bit... completely useless post but hey, I'm unemployed and have no life :(
Alan Cox; Richard Stallman; Bruce Perens; Wichert Akkerman; Miguel DeIcaza. What do you see in this list of names? Are there any African-Americans on it? Absolutely not, none of those names sound like one a self-respecting black person would have!
How can you really guess whether a person is black based on their names? If you are talking about Africa or something, I can see what you mean. But nearly all Afri