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Google's Summer of Code Headed Down Under

Posted by Soulskill on Fri Feb 01, 2008 06:19 AM
from the now-is-the-summer-of-your-foss-content dept.
Stony Stevenson alerts us to news that Google is hinting at the possibility of an Australian version of the Summer of Code program. We've discussed the results of the Summer of Code program in the past. Quoting iTnews: "The global program had attracted students from 90 countries around the world, including Australia, said Hawthorn. But as the timing clashed with winter term time in the southern hemisphere, it's been tough for local students to participate. Stopping short of confirming the program, Hawthorn said Google is looking into finding the human resources - as opposed to the financial resources - to make it happen."
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2008, @06:25AM (#22259280)
    Seems like a win-win for Google; more people they can scout, the world gets more potentially useful/helpful software. What not to like?
  • This is great (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MichaelSmith (789609) on Friday February 01 2008, @06:31AM (#22259302) Homepage Journal
    Anything which broadens the horizons of our students beyond the windows IDE they get told to use is a good thing. I employ some interns in my team and I would not be averse to allowing them time to work on SOC projects during working hours, as long as there was some demonstrated benefit to us down the track. And with free software there usually is.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      In our first week in computer science in university we had classes in how to use emacs. I however prefer vi. So at least in Sweden they don't teach any windows stuff in computer science at the universities.
      • Same thing for me, and I went to an American school. There were emacs sessions for every CS student (not sure if they were mandatory but I always went) and we were encouraged to code in whatever environment we were comfortable in.
      • I learned vi as a freshman. It was an honors class though, so maybe the regular class learned emacs, I don't know.
  • I wonder if they will restrict this new version to just people from the Southern Hemisphere?
    Australians could take part in the original version, so everyone should be able to take part in this one.

    Maybe, it would be nice to simply open it up to a general google sponsorship program which did not have specific summer/winter timeslots.

    I think Corey whatsiface should apply and write a Party scheduling application.
    • I think Corey whatsiface should apply and write a Party scheduling application.

      You mean a static myspace page along the lines of My mum and dads place any night of the week? That won't take long to write.

      I think we should institute the Aboriginal custom of walkabout. Dump the little shit somewhere hot and dry and see if he makes it back.

      • I think we should institute the Aboriginal custom of walkabout. Dump the little shit somewhere hot and dry and see if he makes it back.
        If that's one of their customs I'm not sure Kevin07 should say sorry after all ;)
    • by knutkracker (1089397) on Friday February 01 2008, @06:37AM (#22259328)

      which did not have specific summer/winter timeslots
      Yes, but "Google ongoing non-specific timeframe of code" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Australians could take part in the original version, so everyone should be able to take part in this one.

      As a computer science (& physics) student in Australia I think you underestimate how difficult it is to participate in the SoC program here. The SoC program is supposed to be as long as a summer holiday, but during your summer holiday we have our winter holiday, which is as long as your winter holiday.
      I don't think you can do an SoC project in a winter holiday. I actually had a big coding job during my last winder holiday, and it's a pretty tight time frame. It ended up lasting half way through the ne

    • Maybe, it would be nice to simply open it up to a general google sponsorship program which did not have specific summer/winter timeslots.

      I'd advocate that. The Google SoC dates don't mesh well with UK students. We start the summer break later than US universities and end later. The first assessment deadline in the current SoC is about a week after UK universities finish exams, so the students haven't had a chance to do anything. The final deadline is about a month before they return to university, so the end of the summer is wasted. Giving a bit more leeway to the start and end times would make the program a lot more useful internation

  • Winter Of Code (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Sulix (1154971) on Friday February 01 2008, @06:40AM (#22259344)
    Personally I think that this is a step in the right direction. Those of us in the southern hemisphere have had to put up with problems that the difference in school term times cause. Things like NaNoWriMo usually end up in the middle of exams, Summer of Code is in winter, we lack White Christmases yet still sing Jingle Bells, and Google could (if this actually materializes) really boost participation from us southern hemisphere students. Anything that helps the development of open source projects (and reduces the boredom of southern hemisphere students) can only be positive.
    • Re:Winter Of Code (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Mantaar (1139339) on Friday February 01 2008, @07:08AM (#22259464) Homepage
      It's not that deeply connected to the southern/northern hemisphere thing. Really, even over here in Germany, participation in SoC is made quite hard by the fact that you'll just end up having less time because the program starts in May and ends in August. Well, my vacations start in the end of July and end in October. That means that it's almost impossible for me to take part in SoC because it has to happen during the summer semester - which, here in Germany, is shorter and therefore packed with a lot of work so the teachers can get through their material.
      • Really, even over here in Germany, participation in SoC is made quite hard by the fact that you'll just end up having less time because the program starts in May and ends in August. Well, my vacations start in the end of July and end in October.

        I just posted almost exactly the same thing. I mentored a student in the UK last year with exactly the same problem. The first assessment comes almost immediately after they've started, so you can only really assess them on how good they are at background reading. The final one comes a month or so before they finish their summer, and so you have to guess how much work they will do in the next month - except that once you've said they will get paid there is no incentive for them to actually do the work.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      ...and people toasting anything over an open fire will be getting a visit from the cops. Sorry, the arsonists are pissing me off this summer.

      What I see Google doing is making a more flexible schedule and allowing year round participation. Still call it 'Summer of Code' because that's how it started, but allow more flexibility. I can see similar problems for the Africans, the South Americans and we can't forget the Kiwis, especially if we get a WETA / Google cross-over.
  • Missing earnings and Microsoft buying Yahoo.. So far they are down to $514.00 in before market trading. I think the Google juggernaught just realized how vunerable they are. The first thing that goes in a down economy is the excess advertising budget.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      ...and Microsoft buying Yahoo.

      Microsoft expanding their monopoly into new areas? I can't see it getting past the regulators myself.

      • There is enough competition from Google in almost all areas, except the Yahoo-Flicker part.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        Microsoft expanding their monopoly into new areas?

        What monopoly?
        Except for Windows which is the only one in which they have an upper hand, and in which Linux and Mac are fast reducing the gap, I cannot see any other area where they are a threat.

        1. Browser - Usage of Firefox is rocketing up.
        2. Game console - Pleeease, its Wiiiiii all the way!
        3. Mail - Hotmail, what is that? gimme Gmail!
        4. Search Engine - Live ?? jfgi!
        5. Hardware ( keyboard, mouse etc etc) -- Logitech roXXs !
        • Yahoo are a significant competitor to Google, coming a close second in almost everything they do, and leading them on others. MSN is third in most of those areas, and combined with Yahoo will jump into first place for almost everything except search, where Google maintains a very slim lead and advertising where Google has ensured its dominance by buying up competitors before Microsoft can.

          Given Microsoft's past abuse of its dominant market position, and its failure to satisfactorily remedy that, I can't

    • I see Microsoft buying yahoo now as a big blunder, all the success they could get would be an strong second place. And if they don't accomplish that, it will just make google's power grow even more, since "if that didn't work, nothing would" .
    • I'm a computer science student in Australia with a big empty summer break (unless I find work)

      There are lots of graduate programs in Australia. Contact some larger IT organizations and offer your services. If you're lucky you'll find work that'll look great on your resume and you'll make contacts you can use when you graduate. You don't sound like you care if you're paid or not, so that should make things easier. Google ain't the only employer in town. In fact in Aus it's not even a major player.
    • and keep the same timeframe. Wouldnt it be the winter of coding?

      That is the whole point. Currently it is the winter of coding to the Australians. Having SoC that really corresponds to the Australian summer (around December) is what is being proposed. Also, as another poster mentions this could be opened up to all countries in the Southern hemisphere who share the same school schedule.