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Best Trek Captain?

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Kirk
  7490 votes / 19%
Picard
  19960 votes / 51%
Sisko
  2164 votes / 5%
Janeway
  1526 votes / 3%
Archer
  1042 votes / 2%
Pike? Why not
  1129 votes / 2%
Log (the one they're always talking to)
  1833 votes / 4%
I have no soul and don't like Trek
  3666 votes / 9%
38810 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
  • Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
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Best Trek Captain?

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  • by CubicleZombie (2590497) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:14AM (#41750607)
    I've always thought Kirk was the best captain. Daring, brave, unconventional, dangerous. Cool. But I'm older now, and looking at the poll options, I was surprised that Picard was easily my first choice. He's wise, thoughtful, ethical, methodical, cultured. Picard has the characteristics that I'd rather be myself, plus he's the one I would rather serve under if I was in Starfleet (I'd be a red-shirt anyways, and that wouldn't end well under Kirk).

    That said, I would have voted for Captain Sulu.
  • by ThorGod (456163) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:27AM (#41751119) Journal

    I voted for Picard. He ordered his ship back to Earth to save the Federation at one point - clearly breaking protocol and orders. Picard just defended what the Federation stood for more often than Sisko/Kirk, at the cost of his own life. (On the other hand, Picard has *no life*. He clearly can't manage being a captain and an adult. That's the downside to his awesomeness.)

    Sisko convinced "The Prophets" to kill an entire fleet of Jem H'Daar (sp?) ships enroute to the alpha quadrant. That's pretty cool, if you ask me. You have to wonder if Picard would have considered consulting "wormhole aliens" to kill that same fleet. Sisko also had his own "save Earth" mission and stopped a coup against the Federation (beyond orders). But he did that after being ordered back to earth and given command over earth's safety. He also took his son into battle with him multiple times.

    Picard spends much of his time avoiding the Q. Sisko actually was half "Prophet", and the Prophets are something like the Q. Picard tends to avoid things that Sisko doesn't. Picard refused a number of women on the grounds that his command was too important. Sisko's got his son living with him, even after his command saw his wife killed in battle.

    Sisko actually had a life, whereas Picard doesn't. (Kirk's manslut ways are far below both Sisko and Picard.) He's a more balanced character than Picard because of that.

    But, that all is also why I voted for Picard. Picard clearly refused his personal interests for the sake of his command. He's more conflicted, almost because he's a captain.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:28AM (#41751145)

    I agree 100%.
    Picard could never make a decision without a committee meeting, and seeking consensus among his subordinates – in a real life emergency, everyone would be dead while he was still polling the committee for suggestions.
    Kirk might ask Spock or McCoy for specific information, but HE made the decisions. That’s why you have a Captain, you know – to be in charge.
    As for the others, too much political correctness, to the point of nausea.

  • by poity (465672) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @09:51AM (#41751379)

    Picard seemed overqualified for his role. He was more of a peer to the admirals and hardly ever seemed a subordinate. I could imagine him at Starfleet HQ or high up in the diplomatic corps, getting things done left and right instead of going on one mission at a time. He was probably secretly pulling a Riker as well and evaded advancement in order to stay with the ship.

  • Re:Couple of points (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jellomizer (103300) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:05AM (#41751529)

    I studied Jazz in college. Avery Brooks talks in Jazz Jive. It took me half a semester to realize I was being complimented on my Bad playing.

  • by Aryden (1872756) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:12AM (#41752559)
    Kirk did the same thing. He even advised Picard in Generations to not let them promote him. With that said, I choose Picard because he exemplifies the bearing. demeanor and the mentality that I wold want in command.
  • Re:Couple of points (Score:4, Interesting)

    by lightknight (213164) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:33AM (#41752793) Homepage

    Now I am curious. What does Avery Brooks sound like in real life?

  • by petes_PoV (912422) on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @02:40PM (#41755187)

    41% of the people on /. are idiots

    The difficult part is deciding which 41% that is.

  • by Daniel_Staal (609844) <DStaal@usa.net> on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @10:01PM (#41760301)

    Quite possibly - but also note that he was in charge of the Federation's flagship. As such he was effectively in the diplomatic corps, as that is the ship you will send on a diplomatic mission. (It's also a role you might give to an admiral, or an admiral-in-training.)

    Comparing Kirk and Picard is a always a problem. Kirk was an explorer, and a fighter - defending and expanding the Federation's boundaries. Picard was a diplomat and a manager - maintaining the peace within the Federation or with allies. Either would have been horrible at the other's job, but both were good at their role. 'Best' implies one of those roles is more important than the other, and they aren't.

  • by Comrade Ogilvy (1719488) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:39AM (#41761173)

    I can see why many might prefer Kirk or Picard, but for me Sisko carries both 80% of the passion of a Kirk and 80% of the dignity and cerebralness of Picard. It is a near perfect blend.

    IMNSHO, DS9 has hands down the best overall writing. It is as consistent throughout as TNG in its best years. The main characters are well written and have somewhere to go from the outset. Unlike the TNG, the main characters largely *do not* get along at the beginning, for entirely plausible reasons. The entire first season is about whether this project is simply going to fly apart, and how the characters evolve to see their respective alliances forward.

    The level of drama might not quite rival TOS, but it compares very favorably with TNG or Voyager. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is not watered down in any coherent sense of that term.

    The most watered down was TNG. TNG spent two full seasons struggling to find any sense of fun. Really, they were too ambitious and trying to tackle subtle topics that did not work well in a 1-hour dramatic format. The writers were trying to create drama around lovely people having misunderstandings. I appreciate what they were attempting to accomplish, but it was often not very successful.

    Voyager was a very promising concept that suffered from terribly inconsistent execution. The initial concept was two sets of enemies from the Alpha quadrant thrown together on the other side of the galaxy, with the "normal" rules of how to run a starship open to debate. But they chickened out, time and again, and found comfortable ruts to live in. Furthermore, the writing of Janeway wavered and she lacked a clear moral perspective, which is pretty much unforgivable in my eyes..

  • by SQLGuru (980662) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @10:05AM (#41764085) Journal

    I've always felt that the next Star Trek should be Star Trek: Ferengi Trader. The ship would be a merchant ship always looking for a deal (probably even some smuggling). You'd get a lot of the exploration that made TOS and TNG great but would be able to introduce different types of conflict.

  • by fiannaFailMan (702447) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @03:13PM (#41769239) Journal

    "Reason with other humanoids"? I seem to remember plenty of firefights in DS9.

    In fact DS9 is the most underrated of all the treks. Sure the "let the trouble come running to us" thing got a little old in the early series, but once they got their own starship and could move around a little more than in those Transit van-shaped runabouts the problem was solved. The characters in DS9 were complex and intriguing. Even Quark, the Requisite Annoying Character, was interesting and a damn sight more necessary than that Neelix clown. Garack - what was a body supposed to make of him? His banter with Gul Dukat (one of the best developed baddies ever) was legendary. Gimme Sisko's badass attitude over Janeway's sighing and unconvincing attempts to be stern any day. Bashir, the arrogant but likable prick; O'Brien, the down-to-earth family man; Dax, the wise old man in the body of a hot young lady; Kira, the hot redhead who has to work on a daily basis for someone she thinks is a living god; Odo, the jobsworth shape-shifter who turns out to be an outcast from a race that happens to threaten the entire alpha quadrant; General Martok, the venerable Klingon commander who's as aggressive on your side as he is when he's against you.

    What has Voyager got? A boatload of nobodies. Tuvok, a character who proved that Vulcans can be as unlikable as they are boring; Kim, [no description available because he's got no personality]; Paris, supposed to be a hardened ex-con but comes across more like the office slacker; Torres, a missed opportunity to develop what might have been an interesting conflict between her Klingon half and her human half; Chakotay, [no description available because he's got no personality]. As for Kes, the less that's said the better. Her replacement with 7 of 9 was great eye candy and kinda interesting, but that was just about the only interesting character in the show. The fact that things were so bad that they had to resort to the cheap gimmick of shrink-wrapping a hot female body into a skin suit says it all about how desperate they were to attract an audience.

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