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Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
Not to mention it slows you down. It's bad enough if you have to use the mouse for something, but doubly-worse if you have to put fingerprints all over your damn screen to get something done.
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I haven't always found this to be the case. There's one particular webapp we use at work that involves a lot of clicking on things, often alternating sides of the screen. With a mouse I have to mouse back and forth across the screen, with a touchscreen I can just touch the links. It's one of the few cases were I've actually preferred having a touchscreen. And I voted leaning against.
One could argue it's a workaround for a poorly designed website though.
Re:Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
I haven't always found this to be the case. There's one particular webapp we use at work that involves a lot of clicking on things, often alternating sides of the screen. With a mouse I have to mouse back and forth across the screen, with a touchscreen I can just touch the links. It's one of the few cases were I've actually preferred having a touchscreen. And I voted leaning against.
One could argue it's a workaround for a poorly designed website though.
So, replace every computer in your office... or fix the broken app.
Re:Thought... (Score:4, Interesting)
Hadn't thought of that! Makes perfect sense.
Sadly I'm just a lone user in a sea of Good Enoughs, so there's not a lot I can do about it other than make the best of it. Said interface is written by a fluffy VOIP server company with a broad reach, so I'm sure we're not the only company that's plagued by it and unable to fix it, per se.
Re: Thought... (Score:2, Insightful)
Greasemonkey script to fix the layout.. o.o why go to such lengths for simple things
sea of Good Enoughs (Score:3)
Soon in theaters near you!
Re:sea of Good Enoughs (Score:5, Funny)
Life of Sigh?
Re:Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
So instead of moving your hand and mouse around, you have to move your whole arm around. Doesn't really seem like that's any easier.
Re:Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
Indeed. Remember the gorilla arm.
Not to mention that you obscure parts of the display while doing so, including (but not limited to) whatever you touch. You have to move your hand away again to see the result.
A navigation system that depends on obscuring visual focus isn't a good one, in my humble opinion.
Oh, and there's no tactical feedback either. Which makes it even worse than the same action on a cell phone (which you at least can have vibrate when it detects your taps).
This is, incidentally, why we don't have glass keyboards like in of Star Trek. Tactical feedback is rather important for both speed and accuracy.
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Re:Thought... (Score:5, Funny)
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So when the ships get hit and the first thing that happens is the control console explodes, that's a feature?
It certainly happened often enough that it seemed deliberate.
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That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard. I mean, we're talking about a military acting on the assumption that a captain will not always try and protect his ship and crew. If they think captains are so irrational, they might as well try and manipulate their emotions and put children on board as... hey, waitaminute!
Remember the gorilla arm (Score:2)
That's much much worse in my opinion.
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Presumably he uses both arms, and therefore doesn't have to move either significantly.
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One could argue it's a workaround for a poorly designed website though.
Some people NEVER use hotkeys or keyboard navigation. They spend the entire time in front of a PC with one hand on the mouse unless they are actually typing something. Disturbingly this is actually a majority of PC users, although a minority of skilled PC users I would hope.
This means that the vast majority of users simply never notice when an application or website lacks keyboard navigation. So is it any wonder that many of them are "poorly designed" in this way?
Re:Thought... (Score:4, Interesting)
Not really.
There are some things that are much easier with a touch display. Zooming in and out and scrolling, are much easier and faster on a touch screen then with a mouse.
Also being able to quickly click on things, is often faster with a touch display.
Sure we are good with a mouse, however it is slower.
You see a pointer, your brain processes the fact that this represents your input into the computer. then you use a separate devices to control it. Up means forward Down means backwards, and left and right are the same. At the same time you will need to keep an eye on the cursor to make sure you reach your destination. Using a touch screen you are really cutting down on extra brain processing and doing what is more natural for the human to do. See it, and if you want to manipulate it you do it directly. A lot less brain power there, and you can do it much faster.
Fingerprints isn't that big of an issue. Most of the matted displays with the back light, will often over power fingerprints until the display is turned off. Besides, I have seen a bunch of non-touch displays and they are often more smuggy, because every fingerprint just stays there, with a touch display you tend to wipe it off with normal use.
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I find zooming and scrolling to actually be easier on a trackpad (like on Apple's MacBooks). Two-finger drag to scroll, pinch to zoom, etcetera. And a mouse with scroll ball is pretty easy to use for scrolling as well (but not for zooming, I agree).
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(but not for zooming, I agree).
Unless you keep your other hand near the control key. Then it's pretty easy.
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(but not for zooming, I agree).
Unless you keep your other hand near the control key. Then it's pretty easy.
But then you have to know that Ctrl and rolling the middle mouse button would actually do that? Where would you find out such a thing in this world where software needing a manual is considered a bad thing?
I bet if you asked a majority of PC users most would say they have no clue that Ctrl and the scroll wheel zoomed in and out. They odd techy might but most people who use computers in this day and age are not that clued up.
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I think it's more widely known than that - Ctrl+Scroll is near-universally supported in Windows these days. It's one of those basic shortcuts that people should learn when learning how to interact with a mouse. Sans a survey or something similar (study?), I guess it's impossible to say for sure. (...sorry)
Re:Thought... (Score:4, Insightful)
I have no idea how Apple did it
Really? They blanketed the media with commercials showing hands zooming and flipping through pictures, and I'm sure every Apply "Genius" showed every customer this cool feature of why you would want a touch interface on your phone. They basically sat down with every single person who bought an iPhone and showed them how to do it.
Re:Thought... (Score:4, Insightful)
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It's not great to use a touch screen in that position all the time, but having a keyboard and mouse means you use the touch screen for things it's good for and the keyboard and mouse for the things they're good for. I've got a Galaxy Note 10" tablet with a keyboard dock. The keyboard's crap (which is unusual for Samsung but, seriously, don't buy it!) but the combination works really well for me. I tend to alternate between the tablet and a laptop - and i frequently go to touch the laptop screen (which does
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Been looking at Samsung's keyboard docks and feeling mighty skeptical. Thanks for confirming. Guess I'll just get a Bluetooth keyboard--any suggestions regarding those?
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I've been thinking the same thing myself, but i haven't checked any out yet.
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What I want is my old Sun Type 4 keyboard + Bluetooth.
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I find it much easier to zoom in and out and scroll with a mouse than with a touch screen. Scroll is quite simple and consistent. Zooming is often different from application to application, but the best UIs are ones where the zoom in and out are the ones that touch
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Oh, you mean you actually like having to mess with the scrollbar? That's my least favourite part of using a tablet--makes me constantly want to reach for the wheel on the mouse.
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Re:Thought... (Score:5, Funny)
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Well, you could use your toes instead. You'll still get the funny looks but you won't get arrested for it!
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The only thing that'll fix the fingerprint problem completely is drying out all of the oils in your skin. I don't think that'd be too comfortable though...
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A tablet uses a OS such as IOS, Android, or Windows 8, and you install apps. They have limtied functionality. A touchscreen laptop usually has a full blown OS on them (XP, Windows 7, Windows 8, Linux, ETC) and has the same functionality as any other laptop (with the addition of a touchscreen).
BIG difference between touchscreen laptop and a tablet.
Re:Thought... (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't think it works that way any more.
Tablets used to be defined by the entry method. They generally had pens or styluses for user control, and a few very specialized ones had touchscreens.
Now, Tablet OS's are almost always appstore based (iOS, Android, Blackberry Tablet OS, Windows RT, etc.). With this new generation of device, it seems the OS frequently is used to determine whether it is classified as a laptop or a tablet.
I don't really know how Windows 8 fits in. Clearly MS thinks that software developers will be happy that they only need to make one version of their software, but it's just not going to work that way. For example, you can run Photoshop on Windows 8, but can only run Photoshop Express (flash-based) on Windows RT.
There are devices now with semi-permanent keyboards [asus.com] running Windows 8, which I would definitely put in the "Laptop" category. MS Surface tablets with Intel CPUs and Windows 8 don't seem that much different. Sure, they can run things from the appstore, but they can run traditional third party desktop programs also.
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Tablets with Keyboards were called "laptops" because you need to put them down to type.
*Disclaimer: I use an Asus Transformer and like it.
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Re:Thought... (Score:5, Insightful)
A tablet is not a laptop. This is a fundamental misunderstanding, and once you realise the truth, you'll finally understand why the iPad sells so well.
It's not a computer. It's a TV.
That is to say, people don't buy it to use as a computer. (Those who do, wind up frustrated and disappointed.) But those who buy it to use as an entertainment device are delighted, because that's what it is - and correctly understood in that context, it's an outstanding piece of kit.
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'Tis another form of interface to me, not a mutually exclusive choice save when a manufacturer makes it so. Much like my P5 glove, it can be highly useful if implemented well, and supported well; if not, it is a boat anchor affixed to a car...dead weight.
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Touchscreen?? (Score:5, Funny)
lousy piece of crap (Score:3)
ASUS Transformer Infinity (Score:5, Interesting)
I have an ASUS Transformer Infinity that I use for email, browsing, music, movies etc. I have the keyboard dock, but I use the touch screen more often than the touch pad. When I have access to both it becomes more apparent that some things are easier with the touch screen, though for others I prefer the touch pad. Move that there and select that is faster with the touchscreen than reach for the touch pad, start moving finger, visually scan for where the pointer was hiding, now move the pointer to where you want.
I have a laptop that I use for more demanding processes like chess or video gaming. I often find myself reaching for the screen in frustration. When the prices get better my next laptop might be touch screen.
Re: ASUS Transformer Infinity (Score:4, Informative)
>> Yes, they are.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
It's a computer! (Score:2)
Laptops have pretty much supplanted desktops for all but the most hardcore of gaming rigs. They're the workhorses that are used for writing emails, creating documents, editing pictures, creating videos, etc. All of these are things that I want a mouse to do.
If all you're doing is playing angry birds and surfing the internets, get yourself a tablet. You'll have the simpler touchscreen user interface, with the added benefits of reduced complexity and increased durability.
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writing emails, creating documents, editing pictures, creating videos, etc.
Why would you prefer a laptop over a desktop for any of those things? The tradeoffs are simply not worth it. With a laptop, everything is a compromise.
Shitty keyboard, or non-portable form-factor?
Unjustifiable cost, or under-performing hardware?
Insufficient battery life, or lack of binary-compatibility with x86?
Every decision you make when purchasing a laptop is a balancing act that tries to find the least-shitty solution. At my workplace, the current round (and all subsequent rounds) of upgrades is
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At least in my mind. In my mind, it is also waterproof, sunlight readable, full color, and folds
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If, as the OP wrote, you're never going to unplug your laptop, why have one? If it's going to spend its entire service live sitting on your desk, you may as well have a desktop, especially when you consider that a desktop will cost less than a laptop and a docking station and probably give you more bang for your buck. And, if you factor in how much easier it is to upgrade a desktop or replace a failing component, the TCO of a desktop is far, far less than t
power consumption (Score:2)
I'm a teleworker. Work pays for the computer, I pay for the electricity.
Laptops are designed for low power consumption. Desktops generally are not.
Around here, 1W costs about a buck a year. My laptop has a 60W power brick...most desktops are several hundred watts. Even if they're not running flat out it makes a noticeable difference in the power bill (and in the room temperature during the summer).
And really, for most things an i5 or i7-based laptop is entirely acceptable, and it's easy to get 8-16GB of
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Please note that I specified that I didn't think that it made much sense to use a laptop and a docking station if you're never going to undock it. You use your laptop both in your home office and when you're away, so your circumstances are different. BTW, do you happen to know how much electricity your docking station burns? I'm not saying that it's enough to make that much of a difference, but I am curious.
Good in some cases (Score:2)
I would like having a touchscreen in some laptops. Light ones, which you could hold with one hand. And preferably able to be used somehow while folded into a tablet - there's a million mechanisms to do this. The recent "Ultrabook" trend seems to be well-suited to this.
But then there's the "portable desktops", like my nine-pound 17" laptop. I'd never use a touchscreen on it, which is probably why they didn't even offer it as an option.
I should also mention that, even in the cases where I would use one, it's
The Future! (Score:2)
I'm actually on the fence about touchscreen laptops for my own use, but I see hybrids (notebooks that convert to tablets) as the future of notebooks and tablets. People like tablets because they're small and easy to use, but they'll still own notebooks because tablets still can't match them with power, and they still hook keyboards up to them (which technically makes them into laptops). I think the hybrid market is going to be more for the tablet folks at first, but I see most of us warming up to them event
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... I see hybrids (notebooks that convert to tablets) as the future of notebooks and tablets.
Yes, it worked so well the first time around...
Personally, I think the Tablet PC lesson was - that combo is the worst of both worlds.
Great! -- for somethings (Score:4, Informative)
I've commented before that I find my Lenevo X230 quite nice. Most of the time I just use it like an ordinary laptop, sometimes plugging in a full size keyboard and a nice mouse. But, sometimes, the touchscreen is awesome.
Disclaimer: My touchscreen is a stylus Wacom screen. You need to use the stylus.
So, what do I use the touchscreen for? Many things, but mainly drawing/practicing alternate character sets. E.g. to practice kanji using paper and pencil uses a heck of a lot of paper. This paper takes up space. Etc. etc. But, with my touchscreen (and rotated so it's flat like a tablet), I can practice as much as I want. I save the results, and then I can compare with previous times. Brilliant. I use software called Xournal for this task, as it seems to be the best touch-knowledgable software of its time for Linux. Other software I can suggest includes Easystroke for gestures (I've got it set to only listen to the stylus, and so it ignores the mouse).
Another use is using it to watch or read stuff while in cramped places (e.g. economy class on airplanes, or on buses).
Overall, I am very happy with my touchscreen.
Nothing against putting a touch screen on a laptop (Score:2)
It leads to the bad habit of.... (Score:4, Interesting)
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touching non-touchscreens, which smudges them up. Low ring in Hell....
That's been happening since forever. Not just fingers, but also pens and pencils. At least a touch screen has a glass surface which is harder to damage and easier to clean.
Touch my ass (Score:3, Funny)
If you can't use the keyboard to do everything faster then the UI is broken.
Re:Touch my ass (Score:4, Insightful)
If you can't use the keyboard to do everything faster then the UI is broken.
Really? Draw a picture of a wedge of swiss cheese.
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Slashdot's ASCII art filter won't allow that.
Re:Touch my ass (Score:4, Insightful)
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On a web page with 3 dozen links, click the 18th.
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It really depends on the UI
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I actually find it easier to count by pressing TAB a number of times, rather than counting visually. It depends how the links are arranged though. If they are in three columns of 12, then counting 6 down the right hand column might be easier than pressing TAB 18 times.
The only good use I can think of... (Score:2)
There isn't much space in such locations for a mouse and I can't stand the track pads built into laptops so that would be a good alternative.
Outside of that traveling example, I can't say I see much use for it but haven't had a chance to try one much as I am so turned o
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I can't stand the track pads built into laptops
What, you don't appreciate it when your window focus changes while you're in the middle of typing up a furious rant for slashdot? :)
people don't like them (Score:5, Interesting)
Touchscreens are a "sometimes" input device (Score:3)
Touchscreens have limited usefulness, as do all input devices. But in cases they have enough benefit to be useful.
Their main advantage is being a re-use of device space - the screen and touchpad/keyboard now occupy the same space. So they're useful on phones, as they have well-established size constraints and a need for large screens but not much input precision. They're useful in POS systems or other semi-industrial applications, where they save a bit of space and are also more durable and user-friendly than other inputs (important when you base your hiring policies around minimum wage teenagers). It's also something that can be used one-handed more easily than other input devices.
Their downsides are limited precision/accuracy, are somewhat slow, and not scaling well to massive screen sizes (if my 27" monitor were a touchscreen, I think my arms would fall off after a minute of usage). That's why they aren't popular with desktops, workstations or servers - they need fast, precise input, and they either use large screens, or no screen. That's also why they are rarely a sole input device on gaming systems - the DS/3DS/Vita/WiiU all use traditional controls with the *addition* of a touchscreen.
Tablets are beginning to push against the precision/speed limits, and are beginning to use older methods via keyboard docks or bluetooth devices. Laptops have shrunk to the point where some, but not all, of them are suitable for a touchscreen. And hybrid devices are becoming an item.
I would put a touchscreen on small, ultralight laptops. Preferably also giving them some way to fold into a rough tablet shape, because that lets them be used with one hand holding, one hand operating, the device.
But on the larger 15" laptops, and the majority of 17" laptops, the rest of the device is just too large to be suited to a touchscreen. My own massive 9-pounder would be terrible with one.
The only touchscreen laptop I'll buy (Score:2)
... is one with a screen large enough to show a full sheet of paper, with room for the toolbars, title bar, windows task bar, and so on. An 8 1/2" x 11" page is about 14" on the diagonal. So the laptop screen would have to be at least in the 15" range. If I am writing a letter, or making a diagram, I want to be able to see the whole page at once, at actual size.
But since so far the touchscreen laptops are all in the 12" size, I guess I will have to pass.
Also, are we talking simply toushcreen, or complete ta
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No, the OS isn't perfect, but it's really not as dreadful as some people have made it out to be.
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But since so far the touchscreen laptops are all in the 12" size, I guess I will have to pass.
You haven't been looking very hard.
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Well, not lately. Because every time I looked they only had 12" models and below. But even the ones I just looked at on Dell.com are either 12" and below, or 15" non-swivel. I mentioned swivel above because I want that too. I want a laptop I can use as a tablet in the field.
Tablet laptops were all the rage about a decade ago (they even tailored an XP version for them), then the fad passed. Unfortunately, because I think it is a very good niche product.
Slider design is better than clamshell (Score:2)
I prefer the "slider" design, but it unfortunatelly didn't gain traction in touchscreen laptops: Asus eeePad slider didn't really sell that well (everyone chose the clamshell Transformer version instead). Also, the slider-design models avaliable in
Been using one since 2003 (Score:2)
Why is this even an issue? (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't understand why people are against touchscreen laptops - nobody is forcing you to use the touch screen. You can still use the trackpad or a mouse or whatever. If you don't like it, just don't use it!
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Missing Option: Blurred (Score:2)
From all the orange Cheetos fingerprints on the screen.
Gimmick (Score:2)
I also really like having to move my hand several inches instead of using a mouse and moving it a fraction of an inch.
I definitely herald the introduction of new data input devices, but this is probably one of the nastier ones. Only an advantage for a very narrow range of uses.
I don't care (Score:3)
Why should I be for or against some product? Everybody should buy what they like and can afford. What do I care?
I need one. (Score:3)
That way I don't feel so foolish when I thoughtlessly poke at the screen instead of using the trackpad like a sane person.
Touchscreens have their uses (Score:2)
Touchscreens are OK for applications that you need to use for 5 seconds, like a kiosk where you would look up some information and then go on your way. But for continuous use, they are not the right interface.
The moral of the story is... (Score:5, Insightful)
In the 1980's touch interfaces (and pen interfaces) were thoroughly discredited as a good input method for a desktop computer and nothing will ever change that. Nowadays, tablets have become a good implementation of a touch interface and fit a significant niche in terms of usability and function. But like everything else, once something becomes cheap, it gets foisted on us whether we want it or not, or whether it makes sense or not. Just like 20 years ago when everything got a clock put in it whether it made sense or not, and 10 years ago everything got a camera put in it whether it made sense or not, now everything has a touchscreen, whether it makes sense or not.
UI standards were a big thing in the early 1980s and I thought Microsoft was doing a really good job by adopting CUA and making a serious effort to adhere to UI standards. Even Windows 95, which introduced a lot of bad ideas along with the good ones still had a pretty consistent and well-thought-out UI. These UIs weren't fancy or very slick, but they made sense and people were able to use them well.
Then came cheap, high-res, high-color video cards, and suddenly by the late 90s, everyone went hog wild on the skeumorphic bandwagon. UI standards (and common sense) went out the door every time an interface designer broke the shrink-wrap on a new copy of Photoshop. Microsoft, of all people, eventually become the front-runner in pointlessly flashy (and usually much uglier) UI that broke all the standards but didn't supply a commensurate level of added usability or functionality. Remember how for about 5 versions, Windows Media Player kept devoting more and more screen real-estate to the border and pointless chrome and less to the actual, you know, media playing but, until it became a joke? I'm not trying to pick on Microsoft, but they are ubiquitous. Honestly, they were a little late to the game of pointless graphics and crappy UI, to their credit, but once they took the plunge, they went at it with gusto. The last good-looking UI they ever made, IMO, was Windows 2000.
Well, now that it costs almost nothing to put touch into every screen, we're going to get touch screens whether we want them or not. And Microsoft, again showing they've forgotten all the hard lessons they learned over the last 35 years when it comes to making software that is easy to use and consistent, will force us to adopt to the touchscreen paradigm whether we want it or not (i.e., Windows 8), and we'll have to suffer with it because they are still a monopoly. Now I am trying to pick on them, especially because I finally got a chance to use Windows 8 in the last week and I think it is easily the ugliest version of Windows since version 2. And Windows 2 was ugly because the technology limitations pretty much made it impossible for it not to be.
Yes, Apple will always have its niche of people who think they are more clever than the rest of us (or are just less stingy), and a few brave souls will wander the vast and wonderful frontier of Linux and friends (but to be honest, after seeing Unity and Gnome 3, it seems the bad UI disease isn't limited to the dinosaurs). But we are still in a place where the tail is wagging the dog and we have touch-screens not because they are the best solution, but just because they are cheap and make for a good checkmark on some marketroid's list.
Surface Pro (Score:3)
I've been converted by the Surface Pro in the last couple weeks. Windows 8 seems like Windows 7 + annoyances on the desktop, but on a tablet it was instantly more useable in terms of navigating between programs, local content (to a huge extent), and internet content than my iPad or Nexus 7 have been. For my previous use cases, compared to my x230 running Windows 7 I'm happier with the Surface Pro about 2/3 of the time.
On top of that I've go a new capability that wasn't possible with previous devices: handwritten note-taking with the digitizer and OneNote. I've tried Evernote on iOS, which mostly fails because of the capacitive touchscreen + stylus experience. I've tried various pieces of software on my x230, but I find that half the time I don't have a place to set my laptop when I take notes and I end up taking most in paper notebooks. On the Surface Pro I take notes as easily as I do on paper via the tablet version of OneNote (it fills the every pixel on the screen with its drawing surface, whereas the desktop version doesn't quite get there) and those notes are then synced via Skydrive so they're available on all my devices. I like the hierarchical organization, which I never quite manage to do with paper, and also the very effective search, which shows me every instance of a searched term appearing in any of my notes despite my bad handwriting.
The Surface Pro is definitely not for everyone. Its battery life is comparable to ultrabooks. I get 5-6 hours taking notes, 4-5 hours on the web, using Office / Photoshop, or watching video. That's half what I can get on an ARM tablet (at twice the price!) but the ARM tablets just don't have the same capabilities. But I think for a decently big chunk of the populace, probably tens of millions in the US today, it's probably the best tablet available.
A couple final notes on using the Surface Pro to take notes at work: 1) A lot of people want to comment, usually saying something like they've tried to do something similar on an iPad but it was a bad experience so why does my black iPad clone seem to work so well? 2) People are most impressed with the ability to flip over the stylus and erase. For some reason this blows a lot of minds.
a better poll may be who has used one recently (Score:3)
If you haven't spent a few weeks using Windows 8 on a touchscreen laptop, you don't know what you're missing. Aesthetically, the tiled homescreen could use some work. Functionally it is quite nice once you start using it.
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Not by much, it would be barely noticeable, if you don't need to carry an external mouse it is probably even better.
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It could replace the mouse. Not the keyboard.
Still for fast typing you need a good feel on what is going on.
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If he wanted us to use pencils why did he invent quill pens?
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If he wanted us to use quill pens why did he invent chisels?
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Ha! If he wanted us to use chisels, then why did he invent sharpened sticks and clay tablets?
Re:God (Score:4, Funny)
If he wanted us to use sharpened sticks and clay tablets then why did he give me an appendage to write my name in the snow with?
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If he wanted us to write our names in the snow with our appendage, then why didn't women get a similar "snow writing" appendage?
Re:God (Score:5, Funny)
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If he wanted us to use sharpened sticks and clay tablets then why did he give me an appendage to write my name in the snow with?
Climate change -- no more snow. See -- this is what climate change brings. Touchscreen laptops. Now you know who to blame.
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Screens are for output, not input.
[shrug] So? Touchscreens are for both. [/shrug]
Re:touchscreen laptops are AWESOME! (Score:4, Funny)
You know what you do when you get smudges on your screen? YOU WIPE THEM! just like your behind when there is excrement in it.. no big deal - we do it daily
Wait, so you liken using a touchscreen laptop to taking a dump? I'm not sold.