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O'Reilly Motif Books On-Line and Free 21

Posted by timothy
from the paperless-office-of-the-future dept.
MightyMicro writes "According to the Motifdeveloper community site, the O'Reilly Motif Programming Manual and Reference Guide are now available for free download from Imperial Software's site. As Open Motif is also free for Linux (and xBSD), this looks like a valuable resource."
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O'Reilly Motif Books On-Line and Free

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  • by Adrian Voinea (216087) <{adrian} {at} {gds.ro}> on Monday February 04, 2002 @01:24PM (#2950963) Homepage Journal
    One more thing...
    Last time I used Motif (about 2 years ago, on Irix) was that it had a working and fairly powerful drag and drop. Granted, they changed the API right in the middle of things, which sucked, but I could (and did) write an application where any user could drag "film rolls" (an object in our system) onto the desktop, and then drag them from the desktop into other programs that knew something about "film rolls" and that program could process the film roll. Programs that didn't know anything about film roll object just got the file name where the film roll was stored, but applications that knew about film rolls got all sorts of other characteristics of the film roll in the drop message without opening the file.

    I haven't figured out how to do similar dragging and dropping on the desktop or between applications with KDE or Gnome. I'm pretty sure it's there, but it doesn't seem as integrated as it did on Irix.

  • by iainf (158986) on Monday February 04, 2002 @04:52PM (#2952123) Homepage
    Unless it was released as open source sometime I didn't notice you still have to pay for Motif which pretty much rules it out in the Linux world.

    You must have been asleep! It's available for free, but under conditions, and RMS doesn't like the licence...

    http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/
    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motif.html
  • Truth must be told. (Score:1, Informative)

    by sinserve (455889) on Monday February 04, 2002 @08:43PM (#2953110)
    Motif is poor!

    I know this might sound like a troll, but you can't
    expect a sane developer to ship a GUI on time, with
    nothing but list boxes, dialogs, text fields, menues and labels.

    Some might say that is all you will ever need, or that
    you can assemble any other widgets from those basic
    ones as needed, but why bother do that when other
    toolkits give me property sheets, combo boxes, tabbed views, rich toolbars (dragable, detachable, with animated bitmaps, and even with support for other control embedding.)
    rich text support, and entire grids for spread sheet
    and database applications. Document/View architectures (aka. MVC)
    and rich OO class hierchies.

    Guys, the days of hand coding everything are over.
    MFC gives me all I need on Win32, and Qt on Unix;
    someone else might appreciate Motif, but thank you
    very much, not me.

    This offcourse goes against the longs standing
    trend of clapping for everything new. As always,
    O'Reilly gets my respect (I knew about the books
    for two months, and I was one of the first volunteers to convert them to PDF from the troff
    sources.)
  • by elflord (9269) on Tuesday February 05, 2002 @10:17AM (#2955063) Homepage
    The other comment is obviously false, maybe the other poster is thinking of Solaris workstations that have very primitive graphics hardware.

    However, there's no comparison between Motif and. KDE has a distributed object model, a solid foundation (Qt), and a rich set of widgets, including everything Qt provides (including collection classes, network support, and XML support), and KDEs add-ons. Because it's usable in OO languages, extending and adding widgets is a piece of cake.

    Cheers,

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas l'Informatique. -- Bosquet [on seeing the IBM 4341]

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